Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

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I see this type of argument and think of the rules of the road
We all should not go over the speed limit for safety reasons
People do speed and sometimes get into accidents
Cops can't be everywhere to prevent and enforce
Some cops see the person speeding and for whatever reason, still not stop them
Again, it's personal responsibility, each time i go out i don't expect the private company im visiting to keep me safe, i take action on my own. When I drive I'm aware of what's happening all around me, if i see a car swerving, speeding, driving erratically I pull over and let the car pass

Anybody going to Disney needs to be prepared for the stereotypical Disney guests who leave their brains and manners at home. They were there before COVID, they’ll be there after and forever lol. There are going to be people behaving in a risky manner either because they don’t care or because they’re oblivious. CMs won’t be able to catch and stop all of it.

Definitely a risk people need to be okay with if they’re going to go.
 
Anybody going to Disney needs to be prepared for the stereotypical Disney guests who leave their brains and manners at home. They were there before COVID, they’ll be there after and forever lol. There are going to be people behaving in a risky manner either because they don’t care or because they’re oblivious. CMs won’t be able to catch and stop all of it.

Definitely a risk people need to be okay with if they’re going to go.

Universal seems to be handling it pretty well, and honestly the low crowd levels are a pretty great incentive to not getting kicked out of the park.
 
I am currently in Florida through July 5. I haven’t felt anymore unsafe than in Texas. Honestly Universal has done a good job of social distancing and enforcing masks. Disney will do the same. There is still risk but there is going to be risk for everything. Texas is hell bent on starting school in person in August. I fear they more than being in Florida.
 
You should not base whether you keep or cancel your trip on what thousands of other people are doing and whether or not they are or are not wearing masks. If you have concerns at all about going you should not go. It is unreasonable to think that Disney will be "safe" or "unsafe" based on what some people on a message board say. You should consider your own feelings on the current situation on data provided by the State and cancel if you don't feel like you'll be ok if lots of people aren't wearing masks.
But if those people who will be in the parks are expressing on message boards that they will/will not comply with the rules, that is data that helps me to make my decision. And, please don't tell me what to do, unless it's to wear a mask and socially distance.
 

Pop Century is definitely supposed to be open when I visit (July 17-21), but I just got an email from Priceline saying "Disney has notified us that your hotel may be closed on your travel dates". And then they want us to confirm or cancel. I thought Pop was already announced to be one of the hotels opening on July 10th?
If you are wondering why I laughed, its because I got the same message the other day from my TA. After 3 calls to TA, and an online chat with Disney where I was pushy about them assuring me Pop is open, it sounds like Disney "may" have sent these emails by accident/mistake. That is what Disney claims. My TA still says that there is a "just in case" with Pop and we could still possibly be moved and they want to be ready.
 
Yes, but I’ll be wearing a mask, I’m staying far away from anyone who has taken their mask off, I won’t be riding a bus, and I have no intention of eating in a table service restaurant anywhere (not just Disney) until this thing is completely over. I was at Disney Springs a few weeks ago and was blown away by how careful they’re being and how safe it felt.

Would you be concerned if someone in front of you on a ride removed their mask during the ride when you couldn’t move any farther away from them? I’m just pointing out that people may encounter some unavoidably risky situations.
 
Would you be concerned if someone in front of you on a ride removed their mask during the ride when you couldn’t move any farther away from them? I’m just pointing out that people may encounter some unavoidably risky situations.
If something like that were to happen to me on our upcoming trip I would.

1.Head to the nearest restroom.
2. Remove my mask.
3. Wash my mask and then face and hands.
4. Put on my spare mask.
5. Spray my original mask with disenfectant.
6. Place sprayed mask in a ziplock bag.
7. Clean the sink area and wash my hands again..
8. Dry hands and leave the restroom.
9. Carry on with my day.
 
If you are wondering why I laughed, its because I got the same message the other day from my TA. After 3 calls to TA, and an online chat with Disney where I was pushy about them assuring me Pop is open, it sounds like Disney "may" have sent these emails by accident/mistake. That is what Disney claims. My TA still says that there is a "just in case" with Pop and we could still possibly be moved and they want to be ready.
First Jambogate and now perhaps a potential Popgate?
 
If something like that were to happen to me on our upcoming trip I would.

1.Head to the nearest restroom.
2. Remove my mask.
3. Wash my mask and then face and hands.
4. Put on my spare mask.
5. Spray my original mask with disenfectant.
6. Place sprayed mask in a ziplock bag.
7. Clean the sink area and wash my hands again..
8. Dry hands and leave the restroom.
9. Carry on with my day.

This sounds like a fun day at the most magical place on earth.
 
A guest has the absolute right to expect Disney will enforce safety rules including mask requirements. Masks aren't optional.
This is exactly what I was about to say.
I’ve seen a lot of people tell people if they aren’t comfortable seeing people break the rules then they should stay home. Why in the world should we stay home? Disney should empower their CMs to enforce the rules to the full extent. Why should people who are willing to follow the rules suffer the consequences of people skirting the rules? They shouldn’t and as said above a guest has every right to expect Disney to enforce the rules they set forth.
 
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This sounds like a fun day at the most magical place on earth.

Actually it sounds more fun than sitting at home wondering why people that love Disney are going to Disney even when its not at 100% full “magic”.

Maybe its because people love Disney enough to be able to make the most of it despite the fact that they can’t currently take advantage of everything they have to offer. They’re supportive of the company they love and are willing to make the most of a bad situation.
 
This is exactly what I was about to say.
I’ve seen a lot of people tell people if they aren’t comfortable seeing people break the rules then they should stay home. Why I’m the world should we stay home? Disney should empower their CMs to enforce the rules to the full extent. Why should people who are willing to follow the rules suffer the consequences of people skirting the rules? They shouldn’t and as said about a guest has every right to expect Disney to enforce the rules they set forth.
Disney should enforce this rule especially, but it doesn't mean they will. They have a track record of not enforcing rules or empowering their CMs. And there is already evidence from reputable sources that Disney is not 100% enforcing it. The reason people are saying if you don't want to accept the risks then it's best not to go is because people are people, they can be entitled and selfish, and there is no guarantee that you will be 100% safe-so if people arewilling to take the trip in spite of these facts then we all gave fair and truthful warning.
 
Listen, I get it. Everyday life is filled with risks. One of my best friends was killed by a drunk driver when I was 15.

I’m just saying there are a lot of people here and elsewhere online that think that they’ll just stay away from people and all will be fine. It’s the same people that say Disney will be one of the safest places to be. They are not considering the unavoidable risky situations they could encounter. They are over confident in Disney’s ability to and role in protecting them.

Most people driving cars are aware of the risks, thanks to driver’s ed.

You’re also assuming that everyone going down to Disney aren’t aware of risks or that they’re in a safety bubble while on Disney property. As you can see with people staying at the resorts, guests are taking it much more seriously than people originally thought prior to the opening of the resorts. We dont know what will happen when they open on the 11th, but its easier to guess that people will do the right thing until proven otherwise.
 
Why are they not making it easy on themselves and shipping everyone’s MB to the resorts like they do with international guests until they have enough time to make sure guests actually get them at home 🤦🏻‍♀️

I guess that would encourage front desk contact but I would hope that if it’s safe to open WDW that little bit of interaction so people could actually have their bands would be okay.

The weird thing is my trip isn't until Labor Day and I still got the shipping to the resort message. At first I thought it might have been because it was a newer design (I got the Elsa one) but someone else who customized the exact same band got it in the mail already.
 
If something like that were to happen to me on our upcoming trip I would.

1.Head to the nearest restroom.
2. Remove my mask.
3. Wash my mask and then face and hands.
4. Put on my spare mask.
5. Spray my original mask with disenfectant.
6. Place sprayed mask in a ziplock bag.
7. Clean the sink area and wash my hands again..
8. Dry hands and leave the restroom.
9. Carry on with my day.



LOL or you could just go in a few months! The vaccine front looks very ahead of schedule , there's really no reason to go this second when the country hits record numbers(literally). We might even have a vaccine before EOY we are not talking that long a delay potentially.

That does not sounds like a vacation to me, especially since restrooms are one of the hardest places to socially distance and bacteria filled
 
The problem is, for those that are not concerned about the virus at all, all of this debate about how irresponsible going is and sharing daily numbers isn't going to change those types of people's minds. People who are going to push the boundaries of the mask mandate or skimp out on quarentines don't care about stats or your arguments against going. If anyone's mind is changed, it's going to be the minds of people already on the fence. And if they are on the fence, it's because they do take the virus seriously, and if they do go, I highly suspect will be wearing masks, distancing themselves, and self quarentining themselves upon return. So the people who might be swayed aren't even the ones who are ultimately going to cause the biggest problems.

We are scheduled to arrive in 11 days. My whole family will believe it when we actually board the plane. Right now we are self isolating in preparation of going, we will wear masks everywhere when we are there, I am bringing my own wipes and we will wipe down every surface oursleves before we touch it, we have our own sanitizer (and I bought 10 extra personal bottles to pass out to others if I see people need it), and will distance oursleves to the point that if we see that the people in front of us aren't wearing a mask in line we won't even get in that line and will try again later. Upon return, we we will self quarentine and take tests.
So yes, while sharing those statistics and sharing your arguments against going might sway someone like me, ultimately the most irresponsible people will go no matter what.
one thing to think about most airlines are not keeping social distancing now from what has been on the news. selling out planes from what I saw
 
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