Crazies on the Community Board

[dwheatl]

I don't think that the actual enlisted men and women have any problem with serving next to a gay/lesbian soldier, I think it's the higher ups, who don't have the tolerance and the understanding to accept, that the times are changing, and the gays should be allowed to do their civil duty and serve.

Interesting thread, and I think you have covered the topic pretty well. I just had to disagree with Craig a little. I'm sure there are enlisted men and women who would have a problem serving with gays and lesbians. It made me think back to my friend's father's story of when he joined the military in the early 50's. He was Jewish, and one of the other enlisted men asked to see his horns. The man was totally serious and just woefully ignorant. My friend's dad set him straight (so to speak).
So one of the best things about the military is exposure to people with different backgrounds, so that those who have grown up with a restricted world view can learn through experience that we are all more alike than different. And that (along with just plain fairness) is one of the best arguments for gays in the military that I can think of.

PS Pakey.

 

[D L and K's Mom]

OH MY GOODNESS!!!!!! What I have read is just sick. I can't believe people in the world have enough time on their hands to worry about who loves who!!!! The key word is LOVE!!!! I have a terrible time explaining War, hate, violence and prejudice to my kids. I have no trouble explaining love to them in any way. People are people...we all bleed red not rainbow or yellow or black blood. Good gracious, wake up we have innocent men and women going to war and dying. It does not matter their age, their religion or whom they choose to love. They are dying and people they love are losing someone precious to them. I dont care if you believe in the war or not, it is not my place to say if it is right or wrong but anyone dying is wrong and anyone who wants to be brave enough to stand up and fight for my rights and the safety of my children is a HERO in my book. God (or whomever you believe in) bless them and keep them safe and return them home in one piece to the people they love!!!!!!!

 

[npmommie]

I live in liberal MA....actually very near PTown, I love going there, the creativity, love and happiness that you feel in that liberated town is amazing.

I don't usually come to this board, since like mackeymouse i am a straight married woman........but i noticed the thread about crazies. and had to come check it out.

and when I saw what mackey wrote above, I just have to second it.....
My hubby and I love Ptown, my kids love it.......the energy there is amazing, the people you meet there are amazing. It is a place where anyone can go and will find acceptance.
The rest of the world should take a look and learn a lesson about how it's done

 

[padalyn]

I normally do not come to this board but saw the post on the index and I feel compelled to respond.

My BIL did not choose his orientation. He did not choose to be ostracized by family members, he did not choose to get beaten up by people who thought he was a joke, he did not choose to be different in a time when there was little to no tolerance for Gays. He was born the way he was, the same as you were. Your children will not choose their orientation, but will you accept it if one finds that he or she is attracted to people of their own gender or will you try to "protect" them from themselves?

I am so sorry that your BIL had to endure the displays of intolerance. I have been very lucky - only one or two exposures to that type of thing. I agree that in order to be gay/lesbian one has to be willing to walk away from EVERYONE that one cares about. The process of coming out is laying ones soul bare for many to judge and realize that they themsleves are intolerant. A sad thing - but it does happen. I was lucky, as was my hunny. Our families both said - so what is the problem?

Nancyg56, please come to this board more often! We need more wonderful people around like you.

I agree Donald...welcome NancyG...please come again! The voice of common sense and reason is always welcome!

My husband has 2 brothers who are gay. Bill died of complications of AIDS. He showed as much courage fighting his illnesses as he did fighting discrimination from nutballs. If he had chosen to join the military, they and we would have been lucky to have him.
2 words to the gays and lesbians serving to protect us, thank-you.

The courage that your BIL showed that he would have been a force to reckon with - that death is much more horrible than many can imagine. I am sorry for your loss.

Do you honestly believe that gays and lesbians have no self control? Do you think that just because I see another naked male I will turn into some uncontrollable sex-crazed beast? I guess you do because that is the very basis of your arguement. Do you think that because everyone is in the same shower the gays will come in and just go wild?

Wrong.

Why does this issue revolve around sex in the first place? This issue is about personal ability, self sacrafice and the willingness to believe that fighting for freedom is more noble than fighting to suppress them.

I will now climb down off of my soapbox and return to my room.

Thank you.

Randall

Kevin&Randall: I LOVED your comments - can I join you on that soapbox? Is there space for another person?? Please?

Years ago I had a co-worker refused to be assigned to work with me (we are stuck in a truck together for 12 hours) because she thought I would "hit on her" I could barely keep from laughing in her face...I told her to stop flattering herself. I think that suprised her more than anything.


I feel that the USA has become all that we "ran" away from over 200 years ago - perscution, religious stranglation, and taxation...so who are we? (not all luckily!)...a group of small minded people who are afraid of change and oh yea - taxed to death....ugh.

 

[padalyn]

Hey Donald...really -

what does your tag imply (being a Winnie the Pooh fan)

have you run afoul of the silly ol' bears not so nice fans????

 

[NYBlue1]

I don't usually come to this board, since like mackeymouse i am a straight married woman........but i noticed the thread about crazies. and had to come check it out.

and when I saw what mackey wrote above, I just have to second it.....
My hubby and I love Ptown, my kids love it.......the energy there is amazing, the people you meet there are amazing. It is a place where anyone can go and will find acceptance.
The rest of the world should take a look and learn a lesson about how it's done

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