Cove Cafe is supposed to be adults only...

[su_A_ve]

I asked and the "official" unofficial is that children can accompany adults inside the Cove Cafe for drink order pick up but may not sit anywhere and linger.

Agree - a single parent that can't leave the kids by themselves I would have no problems with ordering as long as they do no stay.

After all, what difference does it make if a person orders 3 drinks? It will take the same time regardless.

So to OP - I don't see the issue as long as they left after getting the drinks. If they did sit down and stay to enjoy it, I would have gotten a problem...

Similar to those just walking thru the adult pool area. A different story is kids walking thru the adult venues at night - although the content presented at most is PG13, is still not for kids and hence they should not even be walking thru the areas.

My .02...

 

[Castillo Mom]

Bottom line is that 90% or more of every Disney ship is geared towards families and/or kids, and adults are not permitted in the kids only areas ... so have respect for the few adult only areas that exist! For those of us without kids it's our oasis and our only place to escape. I have NO problem with asking a CM to request that children are removed from an adult only venue. Unfortunately it's usually not the kids fault but the parents, who think the rules don't apply to themselves or their precious ones.

I have no problem with kids in general. If I did I wouldn't cruise on Disney and have an annual pass to WDW … but I do have problems with kids (and their parents) that try to intrude on the few adult only venues that exist. One of the things I really like about DCL is that generally they do enforce these areas, which is not the case on many cruise lines where staff simply turn the other cheek. Disney realizes it's in their best interest to provide a little sanctuary for adults onboard and that it needs to be enforced.

I love children, raised three of my own and have two nieces and a nephew who I adore. That being said, there's a time and place for everything. There are times when parents want and/or need a respite and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. DCL advertises the fact that there's something for everyone on the ship and that moms and dads can have a little alone time in the adult areas, so that should be enforced.

so I need to ask, what makes you special? obviously its something because you feel you can bend the rules to suit your needs. you know its adults only however you feel you should be allowed in and according to you you constantly break the rule to suit your wants, got to wonder why. and to say 'people like you', lets turn that around. its people like YOU who is showing disrespect for the areas not intended for under 18. your taking an area not for your use and saying 'can if I want'. do you not have an adult who could get that coffee product for you that you have to have and can't get any where else?
time for you to learn its not alright to do what ever you want just because its what you want. you should feel awkward.

Sadly, some 16 year olds have yet to learn to be respectful of rules whether they like them or not and that it's important to be considerate of others.

 

[n8nally]

Hi I am 16 years old and I myself love to get my daily coffee, that doesn't suck, at the Cove Cafe. On all 16 of my DCL cruises, I have never been told to leave although I do feel slightly awkward on occasion because of people like you. The coffee at the drink station is very low grade and for people who love to enjoy a decent cup of coffee, the Cove Cafe is the only option. I do not go and hang out there with the intention to be loud, I just go in and go out. If your son was really so devastated about some kids buying some coffee then maybe he should get over himself. And the smoothies you are talking about most likely contain coffee as they are the frozen cappuccinos which are only available at the Cove Cafe. The first day aboard, Cove Cafe is actually open to everyone as I have verified with a CM. I am sure if there were teens being disrespectful of the quiet place, a CM would most definitely ask them to leave however they don't seem to really mind under 18's to enter. And lastly, you are on a very nice vacation, why don't you learn to enjoy yourself rather than work yourself up over some people bending rules to better their experience. thx xoxo BYe felicia

I agree with this. If someone, whether a mom with kids or a teen, just walks in, gets the drink and moves on, it's no big deal. People act like just the mere sight of an under 18 will wreck havoc on their pricey vacation. Please.

Noisy, unruly, crying kids, or kids who are allowed to stay and swim in the pool or hot tub, or hang out at CC are a different story. But just walk in, get a drink, leave (or walk through the area quietly) is no big thing.

People can make or break their vacations by their attitudes, and hyperventilating over something so small is a waste of energy.

 

[yndygo]

DCL used to be amazing at keeping Adults Only sections Adults Only. Yes, the kids have always quietly walked from the front elevators through on the Wonder and Magic... but it was understood that just like there are sections for kids only and sections for families of all sizes, the AO areas were a place for a little non-kid time.

I wonder how the 16 y.o. would feel if there were 35-40 y.o. people 'dropping in the stack' to get a drink they like 'as long as they weren't staying.' Because I suspect there'd be a bit of the same feeling that they really shouldn't be doing that.

The only people who shouldn't have to be enforcing it are the *other* adults. CMs need to reinforce it with parents with kids-in-tow and with kids without parents. Parents need to help their kids to understand that the rule applies to them just as much as any other person under 18.

Telling people who mention it that they just need to get over it because it doesn't hurt them is justifying the behavior, not being considerate of your fellow travelers.

So glad the OP put the card into Guest Services. Hoping it helps and that things are back the way they were last time we were on board!

 

[PizzieDuster]

Hyperventilating? I think I may faint from hyperventilating ....um, no.

What's wrong with following rules?

Adults have the right to want their own spaces. DCL markets that tiny lil part of their fleet. Let em have it. It's a .02437 square footage of the ship. I don't know, I wasn't good at math. But I can follow rules. And yes, I tell my 15 year old daughter she can't come with me but I'll bring back a frapiccinocapachinoicemochawithwhippedcream whatever she wants when I'm ready to leave. I'm sure not going to her 'club' and order a smoothie. Or, maybe it goes both ways....... here's momma, watcha guys doing? Just getting my smoothie then leaving.

 

[PrincessBs Mom]

I think this is getting little blown out of proportion. I have a 5 year old and on our cruise last year we did not take her into the adults only places. However, if the mama was just getting drinks and leaving big deal, right? She may have been a single mom with kids that have separation anxiety. My daughter only went to the club's twice,but my husband was with us so we took turns going into adults only spaces. A couple of sweet little girls coming in and getting a drink with their mom wouldn't have ruined my trip. I realize and respect the value of adults only areas (I have a child that talks non stop...I understand the need for silence), but those kids didn't hurt anyone. They didn't stay. If they had sat down,yeah I would have been upset. But they didn't. Take a deep breath and be more thoughtful and gracious. You never know what was going on with that lady and her kids. Come on y'all...extend some kindness.

 

[DJinPA]

I think this is getting little blown out of proportion. I have a 5 year old and on our cruise last year we did not take her into the adults only places. However, if the mama was just getting drinks and leaving big deal, right? She may have been a single mom with kids that have separation anxiety. My daughter only went to the club's twice,but my husband was with us so we took turns going into adults only spaces. A couple of sweet little girls coming in and getting a drink with their mom wouldn't have ruined my trip. I realize and respect the value of adults only areas (I have a child that talks non stop...I understand the need for silence), but those kids didn't hurt anyone. They didn't stay. If they had sat down,yeah I would have been upset. But they didn't. Take a deep breath and be more thoughtful and gracious. You never know what was going on with that lady and her kids. Come on y'all...extend some kindness.

Yes!! I agree.

Maybe if they made the regular coffee taste better, there wouldn't be such a need for parents to go to cove cafe!

 

[eroller]

Maybe if they made the regular coffee taste better, there wouldn't be such a need for parents to go to cove cafe!

Oh I'm sure some people would find another reason. There are those that just can't stand to be restricted from anywhere and feel entitled.

 

[eroller]

I think this is getting little blown out of proportion. I have a 5 year old and on our cruise last year we did not take her into the adults only places. However, if the mama was just getting drinks and leaving big deal, right? She may have been a single mom with kids that have separation anxiety. My daughter only went to the club's twice,but my husband was with us so we took turns going into adults only spaces. A couple of sweet little girls coming in and getting a drink with their mom wouldn't have ruined my trip. I realize and respect the value of adults only areas (I have a child that talks non stop...I understand the need for silence), but those kids didn't hurt anyone. They didn't stay. If they had sat down,yeah I would have been upset. But they didn't. Take a deep breath and be more thoughtful and gracious. You never know what was going on with that lady and her kids. Come on y'all...extend some kindness.

Oh I don't think it's being blown out of proportion. We have an entitled society and most think rules don't apply to them. It's the old saying "give an inch take a mile". Look the other way for one kid getting drinks in the adult-only area and he/she tells her friends that it's cool and next thing you know there are many kids getting drinks at the adult bar.

As I mentioned before, 95% or more of the ship caters to kids and families. RESPECT the very few areas that are adult-only. It's that simple.

 

[momof2n2]

Do Cove Cafe food/drinks have a charge?

 

[cruisecrasher]

Do Cove Cafe food/drinks have a charge?

Food is included.
Drinks are not.

 

[mmouse37]

Do Cove Cafe food/drinks have a charge?

Beverages yes, snacks no.

I feel under 18 year olds should not be in adult areas. Walking through can't be helped due to the design of the ship (Dream/Fantasy) and that is fine but purposely entering an adult only area (Cove Cafe) with kids in tow or is breaking the rule and inconsiderate. Why can't those parents extend a little courtesy/kindness to those adults in adult only areas by not taking their kids in there. Why do the adults in the area they are supposed to be in have to look the other way? It does not really matter if the kids are sweet, cute or grumpy...they should not be there.

After years of telling our kids not to enter adult areas onboard it was a big deal when they were finally allowed in. Just one of life's little milestones. I don't think the OP's son needs to "get over himself" as our 16 year old poster stated. The 16 year old should not have been in Cove Cafe over her 16 DCL cruises to get her daily coffee and does not seem to have a problem breaking that rule and obviously doesn't feel the rule applies to her.


MJ

 

[Dug720]

Yes!! I agree.

Maybe if they made the regular coffee taste better, there wouldn't be such a need for parents to go to cove cafe!

Ah, but there IS an alternative for under 18s and single parents who can't leave a child unattended...

Dream/Fantasy ~ Vista Cafe
Magic/Wonder ~ Promenade Lounge

They both have the same specialty coffee drinks as the Cove Cafe.

So no, there's not "such a need" that they HAVE to go to Cove Cafe. It's laziness plain and simple. They don't want to be bothered to go to another location.

 

[Zandy595]

DCL used to be amazing at keeping Adults Only sections Adults Only. Yes, the kids have always quietly walked from the front elevators through on the Wonder and Magic... but it was understood that just like there are sections for kids only and sections for families of all sizes, the AO areas were a place for a little non-kid time.

I wonder how the 16 y.o. would feel if there were 35-40 y.o. people 'dropping in the stack' to get a drink they like 'as long as they weren't staying.' Because I suspect there'd be a bit of the same feeling that they really shouldn't be doing that.

The only people who shouldn't have to be enforcing it are the *other* adults. CMs need to reinforce it with parents with kids-in-tow and with kids without parents. Parents need to help their kids to understand that the rule applies to them just as much as any other person under 18.

Telling people who mention it that they just need to get over it because it doesn't hurt them is justifying the behavior, not being considerate of your fellow travelers.

So glad the OP put the card into Guest Services. Hoping it helps and that things are back the way they were last time we were on board!

Oh I don't think it's being blown out of proportion. We have an entitled society and most think rules don't apply to them. It's the old saying "give an inch take a mile". Look the other way for one kid getting drinks in the adult-only area and he/she tells her friends that it's cool and next thing you know there are many kids getting drinks at the adult bar.

As I mentioned before, 95% or more of the ship caters to kids and families. RESPECT the very few areas that are adult-only. It's that simple.

Beverages yes, snacks no.

I feel under 18 year olds should not be in adult areas. Walking through can't be helped due to the design of the ship (Dream/Fantasy) and that is fine but purposely entering an adult only area (Cove Cafe) with kids in tow or is breaking the rule and inconsiderate. Why can't those parents extend a little courtesy/kindness to those adults in adult only areas by not taking their kids in there. Why do the adults in the area they are supposed to be in have to look the other way? It does not really matter if the kids are sweet, cute or grumpy...they should not be there.

After years of telling our kids not to enter adult areas onboard it was a big deal when they were finally allowed in. Just one of life's little milestones. I don't think the OP's son needs to "get over himself" as our 16 year old poster stated. The 16 year old should not have been in Cove Cafe over her 16 DCL cruises to get her daily coffee and does not seem to have a problem breaking that rule and obviously doesn't feel the rule applies to her.


MJ

Ah, but there IS an alternative for under 18s and single parents who can't leave a child unattended...

Dream/Fantasy ~ Vista Cafe
Magic/Wonder ~ Promenade Lounge

They both have the same specialty coffee drinks as the Cove Cafe.

So no, there's not "such a need" that they HAVE to go to Cove Cafe. It's laziness plain and simple. They don't want to be bothered to go to another location.

There's absolutely no need for anyone under 18 to go into Cove Cafe when Vista Cafe and the Promenade Lounge have the same drinks. Is it really that hard to go down to deck 3 or 4 instead???
A lot of other people on the ships seem to be able to follow the rules, why don't they apply to the select few? The entitled single mom with her adorable children and the 16 year old whose parents told her she was so special she could do whatever she wanted, need to "get over themselves".

 

[BK2014]

The problem isn't that the OP was offended by a supposedly minor breach of the rules, the problem is that by having the rules in place, it creates an expectation that they will be enforced/followed. Once people start deciding that the rules can be bent or broken, who is in charge of deciding which rules are okay to bend or break?

As others have mentioned, teens/kids look forward to enjoying their spaces in part because they are adult-free. Adults should be able to enjoy their spaces as well. If the rules aren't going to be enforced, DCL should remove them.

 

[taswira]

As adults paying sometimes twice as much for a Disney cruise I can honestly say that when I go to the adult sections I want it to be just that - adults only. The day Disney stops enforcing this is the day we take our business elsewhere. For all the posters that are saying its no big deal well for them maybe it isn't - but for me it is and for many others who either don't have small children and want a relaxing vacation or for those who are taking a break from their children for the day while they are busy in their own areas with activities. I don't think Disney wants to lose the adult crowd but if they don't enforce their own rules they may. Fortunately I have not experienced this on the cruises I've been on but I would say something to a CM if I did. To the 16 year old kid who said it was not a big deal, well I think it's no big deal for that person to go to a different area for coffee - sounds like he's the one getting upset about not having his specialty coffee. Most things on Disney are kid centered so the few adult areas need to be respected. That being said there will always be those who think the rules don't apply to them and who are rude and that's part of life...we can't let it ruin our day but we can certainly discuss on a forum in hopes that Disney see's how important this issue is and we definitely should say something to a CM and let them handle it.

 

[Sleepyluke]

There's absolutely no need for anyone under 18 to go into Cove Cafe when Vista Cafe and the Promenade Lounge have the same drinks. Is it really that hard to go down to deck 3 or 4 instead???
A lot of other people on the ships seem to be able to follow the rules, why don't they apply to the select few? The entitled single mom with her adorable children and the 16 year old whose parents told her she was so special she could do whatever she wanted, need to "get over themselves".

Ok, I have been on 4 Magic cruises and never knew this. We have not had a kid until this trip coming up in October and we will have a 1 year old in tow. In the past I always go to Cove and get momma a nice coffee drink and I love baby and me time. Now I am no way no how going to sit down with her in there, but is the Promenade lounge open early? i would love to go there for the morning run, but did not know this was an option. It is very likely that baby and I will be up walking around the ship before mom decides to get up and would be nice to deliver her coffee, but obviously i can not leave my 1 year old in the goofy pool while dad goes for coffee.

And yes I am one of the people that think that shorts in a dining room are bad and that rules are set to be followed, but this is one I never really thought about as far as picking up a drink with a baby in tow. I can see how it becomes difficult for both sides of the argument. Personally I see a big difference between an under 5 year old in tow and a teenager ploppping down on the couch, but give an inch and someone is going to take a mile! I am going to have to think on this one...

Baby may get delivered back to momma and then go get coffee. Out of the way, but if you like the rules you have to follow the inconvenient ones too right?

 

[ptcbass]

Hi I am 16 years old and I myself love to get my daily coffee, that doesn't suck, at the Cove Cafe. On all 16 of my DCL cruises, I have never been told to leave although I do feel slightly awkward on occasion because of people like you. The coffee at the drink station is very low grade and for people who love to enjoy a decent cup of coffee, the Cove Cafe is the only option. I do not go and hang out there with the intention to be loud, I just go in and go out. If your son was really so devastated about some kids buying some coffee then maybe he should get over himself. And the smoothies you are talking about most likely contain coffee as they are the frozen cappuccinos which are only available at the Cove Cafe. The first day aboard, Cove Cafe is actually open to everyone as I have verified with a CM. I am sure if there were teens being disrespectful of the quiet place, a CM would most definitely ask them to leave however they don't seem to really mind under 18's to enter. And lastly, you are on a very nice vacation, why don't you learn to enjoy yourself rather than work yourself up over some people bending rules to better their experience. thx xoxo BYe felicia

If there was no where else on the ship for a good cup of coffee and if you didn't have an adult with you on your cruise I would completely understand this. I also appreciate the fact that you understand that you need to be quiet and respectful in an area like this (and am grateful for teens that have manners at all!) but bottom line is your not supposed to be in this area. That would be like saying that parents or everyone in Edge should be allowed to hangout in Vibe. If my son had to have his cup of primo coffee and couldn't get it from anywhere else on the ship I would go in there for him and get it. I would not allow him to go get it himself. Sorry.

 

[TAK]

I think this is getting little blown out of proportion. I have a 5 year old and on our cruise last year we did not take her into the adults only places. However, if the mama was just getting drinks and leaving big deal, right? She may have been a single mom with kids that have separation anxiety. My daughter only went to the club's twice,but my husband was with us so we took turns going into adults only spaces. A couple of sweet little girls coming in and getting a drink with their mom wouldn't have ruined my trip. I realize and respect the value of adults only areas (I have a child that talks non stop...I understand the need for silence), but those kids didn't hurt anyone. They didn't stay. If they had sat down,yeah I would have been upset. But they didn't. Take a deep breath and be more thoughtful and gracious. You never know what was going on with that lady and her kids. Come on y'all...extend some kindness.

I'm sorry, but *that's* blowing things out of proportion. No one here, including the OP, is being unthoughtful or unkind. There are numerous places on the ship for patrons to get coffee, several of them for all ages. A mom with kids who don't want to be alone can go to the Vista Cafe, for example. But rather than use any of those options, parents and children should bypass all of those, go all the way forward (on the Fantasy, at least) past the numerous signs that say "Adults Only", through the Adults Only pool section, into a cafe clearly marked Adults Only, and there order drinks? Why is that necessary?

There are lots of age-restricted places on the ship. Some of them are for 3 month-olds. Some of them are for six year-olds. Some are for teens. Some are for adults. DCL enforces the rules for lower age restrictions, why not this one? In other words, let's say my 40ish husband wants to spend all day hanging out with the boys and girls in the Oceaneer Lab. Is that a problem? Why? What's the harm? Shouldn't you extend him some kindness?

I don't mean to sound flippant or mean, just trying to make a point -- it seems like a pretty simple one to me. It's not unkind to expect everyone to respect the rules of the place they're in.

 

[Dug720]

I'm sorry, but *that's* blowing things out of proportion. No one here, including the OP, is being unthoughtful or unkind. There are numerous places on the ship for patrons to get coffee, several of them for all ages. A mom with kids who don't want to be alone can go to the Vista Cafe, for example. But rather than use any of those options, parents and children should bypass all of those, go all the way forward (on the Fantasy, at least) past the numerous signs that say "Adults Only", through the Adults Only pool section, into a cafe clearly marked Adults Only, and there order drinks? Why is that necessary?

There are lots of age-restricted places on the ship. Some of them are for 3 month-olds. Some of them are for six year-olds. Some are for teens. Some are for adults. DCL enforces the rules for lower age restrictions, why not this one? In other words, let's say my 40ish husband wants to spend all day hanging out with the boys and girls in the Oceaneer Lab. Is that a problem? Why? What's the harm? Shouldn't you extend him some kindness?

I don't mean to sound flippant or mean, just trying to make a point -- it seems like a pretty simple one to me. It's not unkind to expect everyone to respect the rules of the place they're in.

EXACTLY!!

Hey, maybe adults should start storming Vibe when they have free smoothies!! If we want one, that's ok, right? We're all entitled!!



(Yes, I'm being sarcastic there, but the 16-year old princess who thinks it's no problem for her to get her coffee fix in the Cove needs to see what it feels like.)