Couple of ECV questions for a newbie

LibrarianBecky

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My husband let me know today that he would like to rent an ECV for our Disney trip in about a month. He does not use one at home, but standing and walking for more than 5-10 minutes causes him pain from his herniated discs in his back. I think renting an ECV is a great decision. I think it will make a huge difference in how much he will enjoy our trip (which, lets be honest, affects how everyone enjoys the trip!).

So, I read some threads on here, and saw that renting from Gold Mobility is highly recommended. We actually arrive June 1, so I'm going to see if we can rent one of their new Maxima models. My husband exceeds the weight limit for their Victory 10 model by a little bit---we could probably use it, but if there is an option with a higher weight limit, I think that would work best for us.

I have a couple of questions on logistics, though, and forgive me if the answers are obvious. Will our room (just a regular room--didn't request a handicap accessible room) have enough space to charge the ECV in our room each night? We have rented points to stay at the DVC studios at the Polynesian.

Since we are at the Poly, we plan to use the monorail to get to MK and Epcot. Are there special sections on the monorail for ECVs? My husband is a good driver in general, so he isn't worried about parallel parking or anything like that. I just wonder how we will know to get into the right compartment on the monorail. It's been a while since our last trip, and I didn't even pay attention to how ECVs got on then because it didn't apply to me, I guess.

For Hollywood and Animal Kingdom, we were planning on just ubering over, but that plan will need to change. We can take the buses--we mostly did not because waiting for the bus at the end of the night can be excruciating for my husband because there is no where to sit. With the ECV that won't be an issue. I've read about the ECV accessible Minnie Vans, though, which might be an option if we needed individual transportation.

Any other tips for someone who is new to an ECV? I'll have him practice for a bit before we get to the parks, but I bet he will pick it up quickly. He's good at that kind of thing.

Thank you in advance for your help!
 
As far as enough room to get your scooter in and out of the room and charge it, you should be okay. You may have to move furniture or request removal of furniture like a table, but it should work. You can call the resort and check it out for sure with them. I'm not really familiar with studios.

As far as the monorail, you go to the handicap areas to board. It will be marked where these areas are located.
 
There is plenty of room in a Poly studio to charge the scooter. There are designated wheelchair monorail cars, usually the middle two. They'll have you go up a small ramp to get in but BACK out when exiting the monorail. Just be very careful when exiting. My dad actually tipped over one time because they didn't line up the ramp correctly. If you go slow you should be ok. Just watch the ramp placement.
 
Plenty of room in the studios to charge, I found that if there is a connecting door to the next room there is usually a small alcove you can pull into where the ECV is out of the way and can be plugged in at the outlet by the sink, just don't get the charger wet.

And yes, Gold Mobility is definitely highly recommended, since you are going June 1, I would call as soon as possible to reserve the Maxima (note: You can wait to pay upon delivery if you want). We are going from June 6 through the 17th, so if you are still there, we might see you.
 

Definitely plenty of room in the Poly studios to park and charge the ECV. Since the Poly studios have the split bathroom, we parked it in the bathroom by the one sink at night. Pulled it as far into the corner as possible and it was totally out of our way. Then if you want to use the extra sink in the AM to get ready, you can pull the ECV out near the door of the studio and let it sit there out of the way.

And we also recommend Gold Mobility. Definitely call to rent sooner rather than later.
 
Hi there, @LibrarianBecky! :) Here's some info that all of us around here have contributed to over time - just a quick overview for folks like your hubby!

The controls on most of the rental ECVs are pretty straightforward, and pretty simple. There is a "speed" knob (typically has a picture of a turtle on one side, and a picture of a rabbit on the other side... Hmmm... :)) Around these parts, we recommend beginners start on "turtle" and go slow - especially until they feel more confident! Then there is the "throttle" itself - typically either you "squeeze" a handle back towards the tiller, or there is a thumb operated control that you push with your thumb to go. That's about it... no brakes, so you have to learn to watch other bi-pedals very carefully in case they step out in front of you! (and they will). Little kids especially have zero idea of how physics work, and will dart *right* in front of you. One way to help mitigate that is to have someone walk just a bit ahead to help create a "bubble" or a buffer zone. I tend to ride towards the right side of any path or "street" at WDW, and my family surrounds me in front and on the left to help keep people from walking into me.

Once the scooter has been dropped off by the rental vendor, the Resort is a *great* place to practice! Here he can practice turning (especially get used to how tightly he can turn) backing up, maneuvering through food service and shops, curb cuts, different surfaces, and - of course - getting on and off the bus! Another great place for daytime practice (if you have some free time in your plans) is Disney Springs; during the day it is often not very busy, and those buses (again during the day) tend to not be as crowded, so it's a good first experience. He can just let the bus drivers know that he is a scooter newbie, and they will help him get parked. He will be surprised at how quickly he gets the hang of it.

First rule regarding buses is that mobility devices and their users (and their family) board first - but always disembark last. There may be a designated "wheelchair" lane at the bus stop, and that is where he should drive through and park while he waits to be boarded. For buses, the driver will pull up, and if there is anyone on board who is exiting at that stop, they will open both the front and back doors. (for our example, we will presume that there is no one on the bus currently who needs to disembark). Once everyone is off the bus, the driver will close all the doors, and the walk (inside) to the back doors. The driver will then "kneel" the bus, and then open the back doors, and deploy the ramp. (You *will* hear the sound of that beeping in your dreams for years to come... :))

General rule of thumb for ramps: Try to go up/down the ramp as straight and head-on as possible. The ramps that are used at WDW all tend to have a "lip" on either side of them - a small raised sidewall - that can cause problems if you catch it with the wheels. If he does have to go up the ramp from an angle, going slowly, and watching the wheels on the turning side will help prevent problems.

Boats and the Monorail all use a portable ramp that a CM will place, and then back away from. Typically, if you use a ramp to drive in, you will have to back out - there are a few boats that are an exception to this (The Friendships at Epcot, and the larger boats from WL to MK) but be prepared to back out whenever you use a ramp. Slow and steady will always be safer! :) Boats and the Monorail you will line up with everyone else and a CM will guide you to wait for the portable ramp.

Regarding rain: Some vendors will have a clear "shower cap" to put over the controls; others include a poncho. Obviously, we try to keep our scooters (and especially the exposed electronic controls) as dry as possible, but it's Florida, and you will most likely get caught in a shower at some point. Don't panic - use what the vendor supplies, and he can always wear a standard Parks poncho, put the back of the poncho OVER the seat back (so it hangs down behind the scooter) and put the FRONT of the poncho OVER the front of the scooter to cover the controls, and go on!

As far as *who* to rent from, that's really subjective. I always reached out via phone to any company I was considering renting from. I would ask them questions to see how they treated their customers, and what their policies were, for example, if the rental unit had a problem after the office was closed for the night. Some vendors may try to sell you "insurance" - ask each vendor specifically what it covers (and ask to see the policy beforehand so that you have time to review it thoroughly - and then ask your insurance agent that supplies your Homeowner's and/or Auto insurance policy(s) if you would be duplicating any coverage prior to signing up) Ask them any questions you might have *now* on the phone. You can typically tell a lot about a company by the way they answer (or don't!) these kind of questions. And remember that price and quality are not always equal; when I was a purchasing agent, I learned very quickly that the highest priced vendor and the lowest priced vendor were often not the best choice; the former is often overpriced and ripping you off, and the latter is usually cutting corners and offering an inferior product or service. You might pay a bit more for the quote that falls in the middle, but it's also more likely to be a realistic quote and a solid offering.

And... having said all of that - Gold Mobility is currently the hands-down favorite of many folks here. They seem to have excellent customer service, good prices, and new equipment that is well-maintained. I cannot personally vouch for them, but the number of folks here who have had good experiences with them is certainly impressive.

Although it's been a few years since I rented from an external vendor (like some other folks around here, I have my own ECV that I travel with), here's a few tips that might help - regardless of the vendor!

First of all - and I can't stress this enough - charge the battery overnight, every night. A rental ECV should be able to go all day at WDW if it is properly and fully charged overnight. The exception to this is if a customer needs a larger weight limit unit, and tries to "get by" with an undersized unit, the battery will drain faster because it is under a greater strain than it is designed for. Make sure the ECV you rent is the right size for you! :) (Plus it's just more comfortable!)

It's important to have the office hours & availability of your mobility vendor at hand. (Prior to owning my own ECV, I would make an address book or contacts entry in my phone for any mobility vendor I would rent from, so that I could access the number easily. In the "Notes" area, I would include information like office hours, and ask them about emergency after hours information.)

Do take the time to ask the vendor what their current after-hours policy is regarding an emergency - like if the unit stops working altogether (but the battery was charged) or if the battery won't hold a charge at all. Most of the time you will know if there is a problem well before they close the office for the day, but rarely, an ECV will fail later in the evening. If it should happen, find a Cast Member, tell them you need assistance (you may have to ask for a Manager to come help) and then leave a message for the vendor, and follow any emergency instructions they have given you.

Some people will confuse the *cosmetic condition* of the scooter with it's ability to perform. Rental scooters do receive a lot of abuse at the hands of either new users, or careless users ("It's not mine, so I don't care!") and often this shows in the cosmetic condition of the scooter - scuffs, scrapes, broken plastic covers, ripped seats, etc. As long as the unit *performs* - meaning it runs all day on a full charge, and gets you around safely - don't worry about how it looks.

Buy a cheap, colorful bandana, or a roll of brightly colored/patterned grosgrain ribbon from either Walmart or Hobby Lobby (they both sell ribbon and bandanas - pick something you like!) and tie it somewhere on the ECV that is visible. It will help distinguish your rental from a sea of identical rental units outside of rides, attractions, dining, etc. The more you decorate your rental, the easier it will be to spot quickly!

Your hubby can "park and walk" whenever he feels like it; many people will leave their ECV in an approved area (if you don't know where to park, just as a CM, and they can tell you where to park) and then walk around that area for a bit. You can park outside most TS locations, as well as rides, attractions and shows. At the Resort, you can typically find places to park for both QS & TS food service, as well as Lounges and shops. You don't *have* to, but you can if you want.

There are a few places that the ECV shouldn't be. First, foremost and always: don't leave an ECV unattended in a Resort Hallway overnight to charge. You rented it, and you are responsible for it, and just like your luggage - it belongs in your room with you. (I saw your question about Poly - and don't worry, you should have plenty of room :)) The other main area is pools, water parks and water features are obvious locations where the ECV should be kept at a distance - it should stay outside the "splash zone".

Last, but not least, snap a couple of photos of the ECV when it is dropped off (both sides of the unit) and keep your paperwork safe somewhere besides the scooter. Just like when you rent a car, you want to be able to prove the condition the unit was in when it was delivered to you. Make sure that the battery is fully charged when it is dropped off (it should be) and that the charger is with the unit.

And above all... have a great trip :)
 
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As for who to rent from, Gold Mobility is the hands down winner, they will recommend what is right for you (not just the most expensive option), they deliver on your schedule and the best part is they will meet you INSIDE that parks in the very rare case something goes wrong with your ECV and not all vendors will come inside the parks making you get the ECV to the front of the parks.

Add in the undercarriage lighting (it really does help make you more visible), the fan, cell phone holder (fan and cell phone holder only on some models), cup holder and free additional accessory, plus the fact that they replace their entire fleet every 6 months. Plus they have the lowest rates (especially for a full week) of anyone I have found and they include the damage waiver. Also don't forget the extended range batteries.

And because they are replaced every 6 months they are in better condition than anyone else's ECVs and you get fewer nasty comments and more comments about how cool the ECV is with all of the bells and whistles.
 
If you have a choice between a 3 wheeled maxima and a 4 wheeled version, always get the 3-wheeled version. Turning in the ques can sometimes be difficult with 4 wheels, requiring backing up and taking the turn in 2 stages. Also, you must be very patient. People will stop in front of you, walk in front of you, and surround you so that you can't move at all. I have seen lots of people on scooters lean on their horns, run into people and generally ruin their vacations because they lose patients and get angry. Chill out, take your time, watch out for fools and children. After all, you're in the happiest place on Earth!
 
If you have a choice between a 3 wheeled maxima and a 4 wheeled version, always get the 3-wheeled version. Turning in the ques can sometimes be difficult with 4 wheels, requiring backing up and taking the turn in 2 stages. Also, you must be very patient. People will stop in front of you, walk in front of you, and surround you so that you can't move at all. I have seen lots of people on scooters lean on their horns, run into people and generally ruin their vacations because they lose patients and get angry. Chill out, take your time, watch out for fools and children. After all, you're in the happiest place on Earth!
I had a four wheel Victory 10 on our last trip and never had an issue with tight turns.
 
I know this is a silly question, but my need to plan out most aspects of our trip requires that I ask it. Is there somewhere that I can see which lines at attractions will allow us to go through with a scooter, versus having to do something else? I'm sure CM's at each attraction will be able to help us, but I wanted to be able to plan out a bit. I've seen lists of attractions where it says "must transfer to wheelchair"--does this mean that the ECV can't go through the que, and we'll need to leave the scooter outside the attraction and use a wheelchair inside the que? I think that will be fine, but I want to give my husband a heads up if that is the case. Thank you!
 
I know this is a silly question, but my need to plan out most aspects of our trip requires that I ask it. Is there somewhere that I can see which lines at attractions will allow us to go through with a scooter, versus having to do something else? I'm sure CM's at each attraction will be able to help us, but I wanted to be able to plan out a bit. I've seen lists of attractions where it says "must transfer to wheelchair"--does this mean that the ECV can't go through the que, and we'll need to leave the scooter outside the attraction and use a wheelchair inside the que? I think that will be fine, but I want to give my husband a heads up if that is the case. Thank you!

This post (part of this thread of FAQs) here on the DISabilities board talks about where you need to transfer, etc.

Yes - there are some rides (like Pirates, for example) that you must transfer to a wheelchair. Typically, there will be wheelchairs available at those attractions, but you may have to wait for one to come back around.

I understand all about being prepared - I'm a *lot* more comfortable when I feel like I know what to expect! :)
 
As mamabunny wrote, certain rides do require you to transfer to a wheelchair. like Pirates and Haunted Mansion. Most other rides will let you stay on your ECV until it is time to load the ride. A cast member will take your wheelchair or ECV around to the exit while you ride, so that when you get off, your ECV will be there waiting for you. If you do not have a FastPass for a particular ride, a CM will give you a time to return to the attraction and you can go through the FastPass line (usually fewer twists and turns) Examples of these attractions are Star Tours, Spaceship Earth, Jungle Cruise. Many shows will let you stay on your ECV and if you get there early enough you can get a front row seat.
 
Hi all - I've read a lot this morning, but I'm still confused with how Haunted Mansion and Pirates will work - my mother and sister will both be in an ECV.

It looks like they'll have to transfer at the beginning of Pirates to a ride wheelchair - is that correct?
Since both my mother and sister are morbidly obese, I'd like to know ahead of time if my husband and I will be pushing them for an extended period.

Does it work the same way at Haunted Mansion?
At what point are you required to leave the ECV?
When I was there in May, a guest with difficulty walking seemed to be in with everyone else without his wheelchair - I and another guest helped clear a path for him because we could tell he was having difficulty -
I'm concerned that my mother will not be able to walk from the stretching room, wait for the line to die down a bit and then still deal with the moving walkway.
 
Hi all - I've read a lot this morning, but I'm still confused with how Haunted Mansion and Pirates will work - my mother and sister will both be in an ECV.
Honestly, the best Haunted Mansion advice is to approach the Greeter and ask.

Pirates, you will have to leave the ECVs outside and push them, a fair distance but either flat surfaces or down sloping ramps.

At the end, my suggestion (assuming they cannot walk at all) is to push them in wheelchairs outside, note that the elevator may require two trips) then have them wait there while you and DH retrieve the ECVs. Even better, have each of them push their own borrowed wheelchair (like rollators) back to where the ECVs are.

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The bus drivers will park the scooter on the bus. That hard with people on the bus. They will move it to a easy spot to get off. Just ask nicely
 
The bus drivers will park the scooter on the bus. That hard with people on the bus. They will move it to a easy spot to get off. Just ask nicely

Actually, it is the rider's responsibility to get the ECV into the bus, parked and driven back off the bus at their destination.

Anything else that happens - any assistance that a driver offers - should be considered "Pixie Dust". That's because the drivers aren't really supposed to do those things. Some of them do: sometimes because they can spot a newbie a mile away, sometimes because they know it will make everything quicker and easier for them (the driver) and most often because they are (as a group) an amazing bunch of humans who do a fairly thankless task, 365 days a year.

We have had many discussions over the years with drivers, (when you are always the last one off the bus, you get to chat with the drivers a bit more!) and they have always told us the same thing: They aren't supposed to do anything more than verbally guide a Guest who is loading/unloading a device. Anything else they can/will do is Pixie Dust.
 
Actually, it is the rider's responsibility to get the ECV into the bus, parked and driven back off the bus at their destination.

Anything else that happens - any assistance that a driver offers - should be considered "Pixie Dust". That's because the drivers aren't really supposed to do those things. Some of them do: sometimes because they can spot a newbie a mile away, sometimes because they know it will make everything quicker and easier for them (the driver) and most often because they are (as a group) an amazing bunch of humans who do a fairly thankless task, 365 days a year.

We have had many discussions over the years with drivers, (when you are always the last one off the bus, you get to chat with the drivers a bit more!) and they have always told us the same thing: They aren't supposed to do anything more than verbally guide a Guest who is loading/unloading a device. Anything else they can/will do is Pixie Dust.

Although that makes total sense (otherwise, for instance, you could always say "The bus driver put that big dent in my scooter-charge Disney, not me!"), I've found that every time I've gone, the bus drivers offer to park my scooter and usually I let them. That's because they can do it faster than I can, and they're usually anxious to let the line panting at the front door in. Although parallel parking isn't a problem for me, I go very slowly for safety.
 
Although that makes total sense (otherwise, for instance, you could always say "The bus driver put that big dent in my scooter-charge Disney, not me!"), I've found that every time I've gone, the bus drivers offer to park my scooter and usually I let them. That's because they can do it faster than I can, and they're usually anxious to let the line panting at the front door in. Although parallel parking isn't a problem for me, I go very slowly for safety.

I know you are all about safety! :)

But, I never want to set an expectation with someone that CMs (or in this case, Bus Drivers) "will always" when we know that Bus Drivers are not supposed - and don't have to - to offer as much assistance as you are used to getting. That's what we call "Pixie Dust", right? Whenever a CM - of any kind - goes out of their way to be super extra helpful, or create a "Magic Moment" with a Guest.

This kind of assistance - what you experience with the drivers - is "Pixie Dust". So, the day may come when you ride your device into a bus, and the driver says to you "I can guide you, but I can't park it for you" or something similar.

I don't want to ruin someone's vacation because I set an improper expectation. I don't want someone to think that all they have to do is show up at the bottom of the bus ramp, and the bus driver will take over and do everything.

Part of using a mobility device at WDW is being able to manage transportation as well, whether that is driving the device onto the bus yourself, or having a member of your party do it for you. I know there are solo travelers, and people who can't transfer, and they should always be prepared to drive on and do the parking themselves. Even if they get "Pixie Dusted" every single time they take the bus, they still need to be prepared for that one time that they won't be.
 












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