Coronavirus: why you should not go to Disney World when it reopens

[Disneytrippin']

Dozens, some with mild symptoms, some very sick but able to recover at home, some hospitalized, some on vents, some died. The medical professionals I know are pretty mentally scarred. We have a volunteer rescue squad in our town, there has been a meal train for months and families and businesses deliver food every day. Just this week there was a car parade of residents that drove by them and the police station/firehouse. There have also been wake parades, there was a big one up the street last weekend, so sad, people were tossing Mass cards on a blanket. Catholic cemeteries just lowered restrictions and up to 10 loved ones can now attend burials while socially distancing.

ETA, northeast NJ, we recently wend 3 days with no new cases, but yesterday 6 more, which is the average. My town has 28,000 residents, 3 miles long, 450 cases. The surrounding towns have similar stats.

It is really hard for us here to gauge the severity of the virus when nobody knows anyone whose had it. I live in Idaho and there have not been any cases in the immediate area. I work in Washington and my nurse friends and customers have nothing to report as far as anything of this magnitude if at all. In fact, the ones I have talked to say it has been like another strain of the flu.

A customer told me her daughter in laws mother was dying of cancer but they listed her cause of death as Covid 19.
Most people here believe it is blown up by the media and they are sick of it. That's because cause of death can be listed as Covid on anyone without being required to test for it. A lot of conspiracy theories here. That has a lot to do with not seeing proof. I actually live not too far from Ruby Ridge as well. So, as you can imagine people here aren't really trusting of the government or the media.

I guess I wanted to hear what the rest of the country was seeing when we aren't seeing anything here. In all of the county I live there have been a total of 61 confirmed cases and zero deaths do to Corona virus. And, we have a major tourist town nearby.

I am also an essential worker that delivers door to door and cover a very large area of Eastern Washington. Not one of my customers is ill which is out of the norm. So, if anything good came from social distancing its the fact that no one is sick from anything. I also have a customer who has asthma. She hasn't been able to get her medication. But, she told me she hasn't had any asthma symptom's and has had no need for her medication. I think keeping people indoors and the reduction in traffic and industries shutting down has improved the air quality. Los Angeles has even made claims that the air quality has improved.

Well, that was a bunny trail. Anyway, that is the story from this part of the world. I think it is good to hear what other areas are seeing too. Thank you for sharing. I lived in Essex county New Jersey for about seven years. I wonder what the hot humid months will bring you?

 

[mjkacmom]

It is really hard for us here to gauge the severity of the virus when nobody knows anyone whose had it. I live in Idaho and there have not been any cases in the immediate area. I work in Washington and my nurse friends and customers have nothing to report as far as anything of this magnitude if at all. In fact, the ones I have talked to say it has been like another strain of the flu.

A customer told me her daughter in laws mother was dying of cancer but they listed her cause of death as Covid 19.
Most people here believe it is blown up by the media and they are sick of it. That's because cause of death can be listed as Covid on anyone without being required to test for it. A lot of conspiracy theories here. That has a lot to do with not seeing proof. I actually live not too far from Ruby Ridge as well. So, as you can imagine people here aren't really trusting of the government or the media.

I guess I wanted to hear what the rest of the country was seeing when we aren't seeing anything here. In all of the county I live there have been a total of 61 confirmed cases and zero deaths do to Corona virus. And, we have a major tourist town nearby.

I am also an essential worker that delivers door to door and cover a very large area of Eastern Washington. Not one of my customers is ill which is out of the norm. So, if anything good came from social distancing its the fact that no one is sick from anything. I also have a customer who has asthma. She hasn't been able to get her medication. But, she told me she hasn't had any asthma symptom's and has had no need for her medication. I think keeping people indoors and the reduction in traffic and industries shutting down has improved the air quality. Los Angeles has even made claims that the air quality has improved.

Well, that was a bunny trail. Anyway, that is the story from this part of the world. I think it is good to hear what other areas are seeing too. Thank you for sharing. I lived in Essex county New Jersey for about seven years. I wonder what the hot humid months will bring you?

I’m in Essex county, I don’t think the heat is going to help, it didn’t help Hong Kong or Singapore. It’s hard to hear people thinking it’s not that bad. Unfortunately I’m guessing that when things open up, it’s just going to spread to areas where it has been absent. The shutdown worked how it was supposed to work here, we peaked and flattened. I also know of many people who had it but weren’t tested (usually family members of someone who tested positive). I think the real numbers of those infected are higher than the official numbers.

 

[maxiesmom]

I'm sorry but in essence saying I don't see it so it doesn't exist/ is blown out of proportion is ridiculous. I know Sars existed though I didn't see it. I know there are whales in the ocean though I've never seen one except on tv.

 

[Cogswel_Cogs]

I know at least 20 people who had it more than half are medical field related.
And I can attest to the issue with that Gov Cuomo mentioned about children with aftereffects, we have kids in our hospital dealing with it. Really raises a concern about hearding techniques.

 

[barkley]

Just to let you know. From Eastern Washington's only hospital equipped to deal with Corona virus theres been no new cases in over a week. The cases they have had were not like the one's described in places on the East coast or even Seattle. That's coming from a few nurses I know that have been working directly with patients. A couple of them have said that quite a few of those we have been hearing about dying from this virus were already dying and had a short time to live. The cases here have been much like the flu for most. One nurse even said that the media has escalated this to a level of sheer panic and it was not necessary.

I am curious if anyone personally knows someone who has tested positive and how the virus has affected them? If you do where are you from?

With the way our area stands we are not at risk and our hospital had 5 of the first infected people flown here from a cruise ship. The hospital here services a wide range because its equipped to deal with this virus. But, there aren't any cases now. Two weeks ago they had just seven and they weren't severe or fatal.

i'm in eastern washington as well. i know of one household in spokane county where it's presumed the dh caught it at work (one of the home supply stores) and then brought it home to his wife and kids. the dh/dw are in their 30's, dw has some underlying issues. both adults got sicker than a dog (said the pain level for the wife was worse than childbirth) but neither hospitalized, the teens got minor cases.

i'm in a wait and see on how our area does in the coming weeks-idaho is up and running and we get allot of traffic from them into our area, the local casino just opened this week in our area and attracts people from many other regions/states so let's see what happens with that. i also suspect that our area may have had an outbreak prior to what is currently the accepted first case date. back in december the place one of my adult kids works at (lots of customer face to face) had a 'bug' running rampant with their staff. seemed like everyone caught it and was off several days to a week w/low fevers, upper resp. symptoms, bad body aches. those that sought medical treatment got negative flu and strep tests. all were fairly young (20's-40's). just seems odd that the symptoms are so similar (it would be interesting if public health tested those folks once an accurate anti-body test comes out to see if we had a much earlier outbreak).

 

[Pea-n-Me]

I know at least 20 people who had it more than half are medical field related.
And I can attest to the issue with that Gov Cuomo mentioned about children with aftereffects, we have kids in our hospital dealing with it. Really raises a concern about bearding techniques.

What is this?

 

[Cogswel_Cogs]

It’s a typo, meant herding.
But if growing a beard helped in any way I’d feel much safer.

 

[easyas123]

I'm going to ask then...what is 'Herding Techniques'? and why does it raise concerns?

(my quick, short look on google only brought up animal herding techniques!)

 

[georgina]

I'm going to ask then...what is 'Herding Techniques'? and why does it raise concerns?

(my quick, short look on google only brought up animal herding techniques!)

Try googling 'herd immunity'. I believe that is what was referred to - simplified to if a lot of people get sick then a general immunity will develop among a population, (or possibly by vaccination). It's what Sweden was trying to do.

 

[Lynne M]

Trying to create herd immunity might have seemed like a viable idea back in March, when we all thought this was an illness that was no big deal for all but the elderly and sick. When some thought it was like a bad flu. Yeah, you feel crummy for two weeks and then you get better. Yeah, herd immunity is a reasonable path to take under those conditions.

As time goes on, we're learning that it's much more complex and much more serious. I have a friend who had a mild case in early March, and is still pretty badly debilitated. The horrible cough comes and goes. The stomach issues come and go. She's lost a lot of weight and is still terribly weak. I've seen more and more similar stories in the news. There's a significant number of younger patients who suffer strokes from the clotting problems that develop in some. There's a young Broadway actor who's been desperately ill for weeks, and had to have a leg amputated. Some have lingering cognitive deficits. Some develop kidney failure. Heart problems. And now the appearance of an inflammatory syndrome in children who've had mild infections that can cause lasting cardiac damage.

My point is, we are at the very beginning of understanding this virus and what it does to people. We're seeing more and learning more every day. It's prudent, when there's still so much we don't know about the illness and its aftereffects, to be extra-careful. Just based on what I know now, it's not something I'm going to take any chances with, and I wouldn't want anyone I care about to get it.

 

[mmouse37]

Just to let you know. From Eastern Washington's only hospital equipped to deal with Corona virus theres been no new cases in over a week. The cases they have had were not like the one's described in places on the East coast or even Seattle. That's coming from a few nurses I know that have been working directly with patients. A couple of them have said that quite a few of those we have been hearing about dying from this virus were already dying and had a short time to live. The cases here have been much like the flu for most. One nurse even said that the media has escalated this to a level of sheer panic and it was not necessary.

I am curious if anyone personally knows someone who has tested positive and how the virus has affected them? If you do where are you from?

With the way our area stands we are not at risk and our hospital had 5 of the first infected people flown here from a cruise ship. The hospital here services a wide range because its equipped to deal with this virus. But, there aren't any cases now. Two weeks ago they had just seven and they weren't severe or fatal.

We know of about 15 personally who are infected and several who have passed away from it. We had one family one town over where the mom, dad and adult daughter all died within days of each other. Their son has it but seems to be recovering. My friend has an uncle who just passed away this week. It is still pretty prevalent here in NY (we are in the suburbs of NYC about 20 minutes north of Manhattan).

MJ

 

[easyas123]

Try googling 'herd immunity'. I believe that is what was referred to - simplified to if a lot of people get sick then a general immunity will develop among a population, (or possibly by vaccination). It's what Sweden was trying to do.

I'm familiar with that term, just hadn't heard to it referred to as 'technique'...makes a lot more sense now!

 

[Cogswel_Cogs]

I'm familiar with that term, just hadn't heard to it referred to as 'technique'...makes a lot more sense now!

Be grateful you haven't read any of my books.

 

[Disneytrippin']

We know of about 15 personally who are infected and several who have passed away from it. We had one family one town over where the mom, dad and adult daughter all died within days of each other. Their son has it but seems to be recovering. My friend has an uncle who just passed away this week. It is still pretty prevalent here in NY (we are in the suburbs of NYC about 20 minutes north of Manhattan).

MJ

i'm in eastern washington as well. i know of one household in spokane county where it's presumed the dh caught it at work (one of the home supply stores) and then brought it home to his wife and kids. the dh/dw are in their 30's, dw has some underlying issues. both adults got sicker than a dog (said the pain level for the wife was worse than childbirth) but neither hospitalized, the teens got minor cases.

i'm in a wait and see on how our area does in the coming weeks-idaho is up and running and we get allot of traffic from them into our area, the local casino just opened this week in our area and attracts people from many other regions/states so let's see what happens with that. i also suspect that our area may have had an outbreak prior to what is currently the accepted first case date. back in december the place one of my adult kids works at (lots of customer face to face) had a 'bug' running rampant with their staff. seemed like everyone caught it and was off several days to a week w/low fevers, upper resp. symptoms, bad body aches. those that sought medical treatment got negative flu and strep tests. all were fairly young (20's-40's). just seems odd that the symptoms are so similar (it would be interesting if public health tested those folks once an accurate anti-body test comes out to see if we had a much earlier outbreak).

I know what you are talking about! I've even talked to customers about that. It was back in February everyone got really sick. I had it for 3 weeks but, not to the extent that people say Covid is. I have a customer who has Cancer almost die from that. She was taken to the hospital. They said the hospital was wall to wall people even in the hallways. I wonder what would have happened if that occured now.
And I remember hearing about the one guy at the building supply store you are talking about.

 

[Cogswel_Cogs]

I’m in Essex county, I don’t think the heat is going to help, it didn’t help Hong Kong or Singapore. It’s hard to hear people thinking it’s not that bad. Unfortunately I’m guessing that when things open up, it’s just going to spread to areas where it has been absent. The shutdown worked how it was supposed to work here, we peaked and flattened. I also know of many people who had it but weren’t tested (usually family members of someone who tested positive). I think the real numbers of those infected are higher than the official numbers.

I thought Singapore and turkey florida even Louisiana all have low death rates. It might still spread but in a less fatal strength.

 

[mjkacmom]

I thought Singapore and turkey flotlrids even Louisiana all have low death rates. It might still spread but in a less fatal strength.

I don’t think is has anything to do with weather. https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/heal...irus-why-so-few-deaths-among-singapores-14000

 

[Cogswel_Cogs]

All th e analysis I did show there is something significant with warmer climates.
Both in the US and outside.
Maybe it something they are eating but its something.
You know maybe Disney can market it. You know spend 10 days with us, ride space moutain and get Covid, then when your'e done the Antibodies are on us....
You know in case they don't find a vacine.
Look at Serbia, Turkey, Greece, All high smoking countries, should be like Italy France, and they are nowhere near death rate. Look at Southern State rates verse Northern.
It weaker in warmer climates, Just dealing with Pneumonia is probabbly easier in warmer climates.

 

[dclpluto]

Op still hasn’t came back. No surprise there as she has done this before . Start a controversial thread and don’t show back up. Probably looking at this thread and laughing.

 

[Mainsail Minnie]

I have a feeling that something bad is going to happen at wdw starting dec 7 for a week. Everyone should stay home during that time. Be safe. I will be there to let you know how it goes.

That's right. That's when the second wave is going to happen, and it will continue exactly until December 23rd, the day we leave.

 

[Pooh2]

Just booked for November!