Coronavirus: why you should not go to Disney World when it reopens

[sam_gordon]

 

[cobright]

Partied in NOLA for 2 decades. Didn't get murdered.

Oh I know. I love the place. I guess it's more like Philly than Baltimore. You can go from a really cool safe part of town to a scary part of town pretty much by turning off one street on to another.

 

[lynxstch]

Lots and lots and lots of qualifiers, assumptions, unsupported opinions in this list. No facts, though.

So, a list of excuses why YOU CHOOSE to stay away. Fine. Don't go.

I am confused as to why you chose to quote my post on this thread about people not going to WDW-
lynxstch said:
But who in their right mind in Walmart, decided in all of this mess, that it was a good time to do a store reset???
I didn't post anything on this thread at all-- What you quoted was from a totally different post!

 

[kaytieeldr]

TL: DR

Nothing new

 

[kaytieeldr]

I am confused as to why you chose to quote my post on this thread about people not going to WDW-

Unintentional. Completely. Thought I was quoting OP. Sorry!

 

[Pea-n-Me]

Yes, that and the Covid toes

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-52493574

It's more than just toes, too

 

[peaceluv&mickeymouse]

 

[easyas123]

Oh I know. I love the place. I guess it's more like Philly than Baltimore. You can go from a really cool safe part of town to a scary part of town pretty much by turning off one street on to another.

I was born in Camden, NJ and I'm not setting foot in Baltimore if I can help it!

 

[cobright]

It's not a given that the "young" aren't getting very sick, even dying. A lot of questions remain about the lingering symptoms that are showing up, particularly in children and younger adults.

It really is dramatic how few children, even very young children who make up a sizable portion of influenza deaths, are dying from covid. Enough of a disparity to provoke a bit of wonder, I think that's fair. Saying that covid 19 deaths in patients under 20 are extreme outliers is an accurate statement. It's quite a bit more likely that an average person will die by bee sting this year than that a 10 year old will die from the coronavirus.

The more I hear people are staying away the more I want to go!

I completely get you on this. We were primed and ready to go on a an adults only trip in April and again in Sept or Oct.

Now I'm thinking I might just go to Shanghai DL if it opens first.

 

[mousefan73]

But it’s not that black and white, many young heathy people are getting very sick, and some are dying. If it makes you feel better you can believe it’s just the sick and old, but that’s just not true. So many dead who could‘ve lived for decades more.https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2020/04/who-is-most-likely-to-have-coronavirus-in-nj-those-ages-30-64-new-data-shows.html

Your link states what I meant. The majority hospitalized are over 80. Sure those 30-64 are getting it in larger numbers but not the main group for those dying or getting really sick. There are the “ outliers” of younger who are younger dying etc. Most younger dying do have an underlying condition. Recently on People they posted a tribute to one of their own who died. This poor woman was only 29. She seemed like a lovely person who unfortunately was also morbidly obese. Most likely the precondition that put her in the older and weaker category.

 

[Heather07438]

It's more than just toes, too

Another that concerns me are the functioning low oxygenation people who may not realize how bad off they really are. I wonder if that's part of how people are dying at home from cardiac arrest. Along with or possible tied to the clotting issues, etc. I hope understanding the differences leads to specialized treatments that improve average outcomes.

On a side note, I put a pulse-ox meter in my amazon cart back in March and never bought it. They were mostly $12-$18 back then. I never bought it and now they're all $60+ when you can find stock.

 

[mjkacmom]

Your link states what I meant. The majority hospitalized are over 80. Sure those 30-64 are getting it in larger numbers but not the main group for those dying or getting really sick. There are the “ outliers” of younger who are younger dying etc. Most younger dying do have an underlying condition. Recently on People they posted a tribute to one of their own who died. This poor woman was only 29. She seemed like a lovely person who unfortunately was also morbidly obese. Most likely the precondition that put her in the older and weaker category.

But 23,000 in my state of people between 30 - 65 have been hospitalized, in 2 months. In order to be hospitalized, you need to be very sick and need oxygen. That’s a lot of non elderly people. Many do not have underlying conditions. We need to figure out why so many healthy people are getting very ill as well. There is a woman in my town who is 107 and was hospitalized and cured, a 52 year old man with no underlying health conditions here who died.

 

[cabanafrau]

It really is dramatic how few children, even very young children who make up a sizable portion of influenza deaths, are dying from covid. Enough of a disparity to provoke a bit of wonder, I think that's fair. Saying that covid 19 deaths in patients under 20 are extreme outliers is an accurate statement. It's quite a bit more likely that an average person will die by bee sting this year than that a 10 year old will die from the coronavirus.

The person I quoted merely said young, not specifically children.
I'm grateful this beast seems to be not voraciously fatal to children. I'm also watchful in regards to strange lingering side effects that are showing up in children, and what those might mean for their health and wellbeing as they grow. I do think it pays to be mindful as well of the idea that children have quite often been asymptomatic carriers.

 

[Heather07438]

The majority hospitalized are over 80.

That's not what that graphic showed. Look at this one. It's more clear, and more recent.

https://www.nj.gov/health/cd/documents/topics/NCOV/COVID_Confirmed_Case_Summary.pdf
eta-over 65 may be the majority.

 

[jamescanuck2001]

That's not what that graphic showed. Look at this one. It's more clear, and more recent.

https://www.nj.gov/health/cd/documents/topics/NCOV/COVID_Confirmed_Case_Summary.pdf
eta-over 65 may be the majority.

Never mind.........

(I don't know how to delete posts)

 

[ponyboy]

I for one hope that everyone stays home because I'm not. DW at 10% capacity would be awesome!

 

[terri01p]

Why do I have the feeling that the OP has their bags packed and ready for WDW to open and is trying to get everyone to stay home, haha

 

[DLgal]

I'll give the OP point #3. I feel the same way. I watch Medcram updates and the truth is, doctors are basically just NOW starting to "sort of" understand this virus and how it works to cause death. Seems to not be so much of a respiratory virus at all, rather one that affects blood vessels primarily. Interesting stuff about how it is causing clotting that leads to sudden cardiac and stroke events. They are just now starting to check levels of clotting factor upon hospital admission and administer anticoagulants if necessary, potentially saving people who would have gone on to develop blood clots.

So yeah, I'm onboard with waiting to get sick as long as possible because they are learning better treatment protocols every day. Sadly, we are going to find out that a LOT of deaths were due to inappropriate or inadequate treatment, because we didn't know better in the beginning.

The rest is a typical out of left field rant.

 

[dclpluto]

yup....

just for those who don't know, the OP has a history of these types of doom and gloom posts, theres no point replying as the OP never returns, and you wont get a conversation . So grab the popcorn, and have a laugh, and relieve all the stress with a big belly laugh

your exactly right the op is a Disney hater. I didn’t read the whole post but I’m guessing there is no mention of not going to universal or sea world or any other theme park just Disney. Disney is bad you might get covid but all the other ones you will be ok. LOL

 

[kdonnel]

This post inspired me to book some rooms for the week of Thanksgiving. Excited to have something booked!