Considering buying DVR - help

mommajo143

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Our insurance agent is going through a divorce & mentioned he is gonna have to sell their DVC - it's at bay lake tower. I know zilch about DVC but I know we love disney & it smells like a deal could be had here. I need tips / quick facts & an idea of a fair market value if we were to make him an offer. I know w/divorce it may be tricky bc they both own 1/2 but I'm thinking this had the potential to be a good deal for us
 
Since Disney had the Right of First Refusal on all deed transfers, there's not much of a chance to get a "deal," even from a friend or acquaintance. Bay Lake Tower is going for around $95 per point on the resale market.
 
Disney ROFRed a $95 June UY BLT contract just at the beginning of September.

It was for 240 points, 2 points for 2014, 240 - 2015, 240 - 2016 -- not even a loaded contract.

So I think resale at BLT is closer to $98 to $102 depending on the size of the contract.
 

The other part is that DVC is so easy to sell that you may not find it's that much of a deal since they could go an easy route with a broker. As was mentioned ROFR will probably take care of any great deal. Still, if you have an interest it might be something to consider the private sale where they wouldn't have to pay the broker fees - which will still make it more likely for Disney to take back but it would be nothing lost to you or them other than a bit of time to try and maybe you'd luck out with a slightly lower price.
 
Thanks y'all
Lots to learn
Spent most of the evening looking through different DVC threads & trying to get my mind around it all
 
Since Disney had the Right of First Refusal on all deed transfers, there's not much of a chance to get a "deal," even from a friend or acquaintance. Bay Lake Tower is going for around $95 per point on the resale market.
Sometimes in this situation people are tempted to try to slide it in with different terms than actually agreed to. Just be aware that's illegal in FL. The other issue is that you'd need to have both people sign. If you decide to proceed, I'd go ahead and get all the paperwork done early including the deed and get all the signatures.
 
They are sending over info today on their DVC. I think it's "stripped out" if I'm using the term correctly - I think they borrowed points ahead - but I'll know more when I get the info. Having borrowed ahead isn't a big deal to us - we already paid off our WDW trip for this year & promised DS7 & DS3 a quick trip to WWOHP / Legoland summer 2015 so if we can't use points for a year it's all gravy for us...I'm def thinking SSR sounds more appealing price wise - is there a specific thread or stickie outlining pros / cons of specific home resorts?
 
Many - but its a topic we never tire of so you can open another one.

Things to know about your home resort - you have eleven month booking at home - at seven months you can book anywhere that there is availability. Some resorts and room types are easier to book at seven months than others - and some times are easier than others (and probably not what you think). Drusba has done some analysis - do a search on that user name and you'll find an excellent post (or a link to one).

You pay dues on home resort - so if you aren't going to stay there, it makes little sense to pay higher dues

Other than that, there is a lot of personal perference. I'd make a list of everything that is important to you - from buy in price to expiration date to theming to parking to restaurants on site - whatever floats YOUR boat - not mine. And haunt these boards for a good three months. You'll pick up a lot of opinions, some of which you'll find yourself agreeing with, some which you won't. And some facts too. Then start thinking about FIRST - is buying even a good decision for you and SECOND - which resort would you be interested in.
 
Especially since this is a divorce, I wouldn't expect to get a good deal. Since they both will have to agree to sell, or assign a value for splitting assets, it could take a long time, and one of them may demand an above-market price before signing off on a sale.
 
They are sending over info today on their DVC. I think it's "stripped out" if I'm using the term correctly - I think they borrowed points ahead - but I'll know more when I get the info. Having borrowed ahead isn't a big deal to us - we already paid off our WDW trip for this year & promised DS7 & DS3 a quick trip to WWOHP / Legoland summer 2015 so if we can't use points for a year it's all gravy for us...I'm def thinking SSR sounds more appealing price wise - is there a specific thread or stickie outlining pros / cons of specific home resorts?
A couple of additional points. Stripped contracts are almost never a good value when you count the value of the lost points at near market value. Often when people are trying to sell a timeshare, what's a bargain to one is not necessarily a bargain to the other.

Lets look at a couple of variations of an example. We'll use Dec UY & 100 pts at BLT just to keep it simple. We'll also use $100 a point for the same reason. We'll compared a loaded contract to a completely stripped one. Loaded would be 200 points now with 100 coming in Dec, 2014 & in 2015. Stripped would not none for now, this Dec or next Dec, 15.

A round number OOP for the loaded contract and making appropriate assumptions on closing, fees, etc might be $10,900 ($10000 purchase, $500 closing, $400 fee reimbursement). With an additional $400 due in Jan this and next year.

A round number for the stripped contract should be close to $7900 plus the buyer would pay an additional $800 for points not received the next 2 Januaries totaling $8700 with no points until Dec, 2016. I arrived at that number by subtracting $5 per point for each of the points not available now and $10 pp for the points not available for Dec, 14 & Dec, 15.

These are the extremes of course but it gives you the idea of how to compare one contract to another. Realistically the difference in true value is usually more in the $10-20 pp range but the difference in price is never that much making a stripped contract essentially never a good deal side by side. Now there may be other factors such as perfect home resort, size, UY for something otherwise difficult to find.
 
I know w/divorce it may be tricky bc they both own 1/2 ...
Not correct, and critically wrong.

They both own the whole thing together, and as supersnoop posted, they both have to agree for any sale to take place.

They not only have to both agree; they have to agree 100% of the time at critical junctures in the transaction. That can be easy, or that can be impossible -- depending.
 
All very good points
Still lots to think about here... I'm moving more toward the "not for us" side of the fence the more I read... I like the idea of it but I also know this investment, for us, would mean only disney for the foreseeable future & I think I will want to see other places as the kids get older...
Def gonna keep reading and learning as much as I can
 
All very good points
Still lots to think about here... I'm moving more toward the "not for us" side of the fence the more I read... I like the idea of it but I also know this investment, for us, would mean only disney for the foreseeable future & I think I will want to see other places as the kids get older...
Def gonna keep reading and learning as much as I can

Smart, not something to leap into, much like a marriage.:rotfl2:
 



















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