Conservative Thread: We cannot do everything at once, but we can do something at once

[SwedishMeatball]

Some people lead such interesting lives, what with the strangers who show up on their doorstep, and their visits to coffee shops. *cough* BS *cough*

 

[Zippa D Doodah]

Why is that so funny? It's not like SP wanting the job or anything. Now, THAT'S funny.

 

[Disneycrazymom]

Ford Family - I am sorry. I didn't mean to leave anyone out. Just musing about things today and wanted to hear what others thought. All are welcome here and not all are Christian. I hope that I didn't offend you or anyone.

Thank-you to those who participated as I found the discussion helpful and comforting.

Congrats Debbie on Grad school. Special Ed seems to always have openings. I know you will be successful.

Michelle, Disneyland tickets! We got to go to Disneyland once and it was just wonderful. I loved it!

Hope everyone is having a great Friday!

 

[wonderlanne]

Here's some more "Can't have a Christmas tree because it's offensive" news, this time out of UNC at Chapel Hill.

i don't understand how a Christmas tree can be offensive to people who don't believe in Christian tenets. to those people (me, the ford family), it is then a pretty, decorated tree. nothing offensive about that.

i'm not jewish either, and their stuff doesn't bug me...to me a mennorah (sp) is just a candelabra...what they do with it and what it symbolizes for them is their business. nothing offensive about it.

what i DO find offensive is idiots going around trying to take away the pretty tree and the candelabra because it DOESN'T mean anything to THEM. it's just like the t.v., or radio, or this thread: if you don't like it, instead of trying to destroy it, just move on...

 

[wonderlanne]

Why is that so funny? It's not like SP wanting the job or anything. Now, THAT'S funny.

it is funny "peculiar", funny "oh no, not again",not funny "ha ha", because it would be yet another member of the washington crowd with no experience whatsoever, seeking a position there.

 

[wonderlanne]

Merry Christmas!

Love,

Sarah "makin' her way in the world without using family connections" Palin

 

[Zippa D Doodah]

I totally don't get the Christmas tree removal at UNC libraries. The Christmas tree isn't a Christian religious symbol. I think it's a matter of some people not being happy unless they can take away everyone's little happiness.

 

[SwedishMeatball]

i don't understand how a Christmas tree can be offensive to people who don't believe in Christian tenets. to those people (me, the ford family), it is then a pretty, decorated tree. nothing offensive about that.

i'm not jewish either, and their stuff doesn't bug me...to me a mennorah (sp) is just a candelabra...what they do with it and what it symbolizes for them is their business. nothing offensive about it.

what i DO find offensive is idiots going around trying to take away the pretty tree and the candelabra because it DOESN'T mean anything to THEM. it's just like the t.v., or radio, or this thread: if you don't like it, instead of trying to destroy it, just move on...

I think what it does mean for some of them is an opportunity to exhibit some control. Look at me, I have the power to alter something.

 

[wonderlanne]

I totally don't get the Christmas tree removal at UNC libraries. The Christmas tree isn't a Christian religious symbol. I think it's a matter of some people not being happy unless they can take away everyone's little happiness.

i figure it is people desperate for attention. it's ridiculous. why not celebrate the "goodwill toward men" aspect of the season instead of causing trouble.

 

[wonderlanne]

I think what it does mean for some of them is an opportunity to exhibit some control. Look at me, I have the power to alter something.

yup. they COULD also have the power to donate a coat or help in a soup kitchen or volunteer for hospice or something equally helpful. their loss.

 

[Zippa D Doodah]

i figure it is people desperate for attention. it's ridiculous. why not celebrate the "goodwill toward men" aspect of the season instead of causing trouble.

Thinking of the UNC trees, it doesn't mean anything to me if they're there or not. It's not going to add or take away from my holiday. I think I do recall seeing trees in or around the library when I was at Chapel Hill as an undergrad back when dinosaurs roamed the earth. At any rate, if something like that has been around for a long time giving joy to broad sections of society why fool around with it.

 

[wonderlanne]

Thinking of the UNC trees, it doesn't mean anything to me if they're there or not. It's not going to add or take away from my holiday. I think I do recall seeing trees in or around the library when I was at Chapel Hill as an undergrad back when dinosaurs roamed the earth. At any rate, if something like that has been around for a long time giving joy to broad sections of society why fool around with it.

i completely agree.

 

[SorcererDonald16]

i don't understand how a Christmas tree can be offensive to people who don't believe in Christian tenets. to those people (me, the ford family), it is then a pretty, decorated tree. nothing offensive about that.

i'm not jewish either, and their stuff doesn't bug me...to me a mennorah (sp) is just a candelabra...what they do with it and what it symbolizes for them is their business. nothing offensive about it.

what i DO find offensive is idiots going around trying to take away the pretty tree and the candelabra because it DOESN'T mean anything to THEM. it's just like the t.v., or radio, or this thread: if you don't like it, instead of trying to destroy it, just move on...

It's very difficult for me to wrap my mind around the logic of people who truly claim to be offended by a tree or any other religious symbol. I'm not offended by Menorahs. I'm not offended by Buddha statues. Not offended by anything of the Muslim faith, or any symbol of any other faith out there. I'm secure enough in my own beliefs, that I am not going to get my nose bent out of joint when I see something representing another faith.

Thinking of the UNC trees, it doesn't mean anything to me if they're there or not. It's not going to add or take away from my holiday. I think I do recall seeing trees in or around the library when I was at Chapel Hill as an undergrad back when dinosaurs roamed the earth. At any rate, if something like that has been around for a long time giving joy to broad sections of society why fool around with it.

I think what it does mean for some of them is an opportunity to exhibit some control. Look at me, I have the power to alter something.

The afforementioned former leader of my college pulled some stupid stunts himself. He was on record as saying he was deeply "concerned" about our Yule Log ceremony that had been going on for I don't even know how many years. Seriously, a Yule Log is now offensive? We had a chapel on campus (a very, very old campus, mind you), and while it's a public school now, it was founded as a Christian college. The man unilaterally went in without consulting with anyone and had the very small cross that had been there for almost 80 years removed. Even though anyone using the chapel could have it removed at any time. In the meantime, he fought for essentially a porn show to be shown on campus and funded by tuition money. The cross issue finally had to be addressed by a committee who returned it to the chapel, but in a glass case with a plaque nearby. Oh, he was a real winner. The buzz about him before it all happened was that he had targeted my alma mater to get the job because as an ACLU lawyer, he had set his sights on the school for its roots in Christian traditions so he could get rid of them. True or not, I don't know. Sounds right to me, though. He cost us millions of dollars, we were discussed and mocked in the national news... O'Reilly's people even came to campus, etc. Then when the BOV essentially fired him by not renewing his contract, he threw a public hissy fit via email, quit, and essentially accused the BOV (led by Colin Powell's son) of bribery. Then a bunch of pinhead professors started protests up the wazoo about it and refused to teach for a couple days! And some still unidentified idiots vandalized our historic buildings. What a totally disgusting period of time. I was ashamed to call myself an alum.

And all of it was in the name of "tolerance." That man had the nerve to say people of other faiths weren't made to feel welcome many times, when in reality I know full well he had to have known that many of his own daggone professors hated and mocked Christians in classes, and a few were publically anti-Semitic to boot.

 

[#1hockeymom]

Happy Birthday mikelly's dd!

Thanks for all the congrats! I do have 15 grad credits already in sp ed, but they weren't transferring properly for Michigan endorsements so I'm starting all over. I HAD a perfect 4.0 in my grad classes. Something tells me it might be harder this time around! I'm taking most of my classes right out of UofM Fliint so not too far of a drive. If it were ann arbor it would be a no go unless I lived down there!

Everyone still alive today? Too many pot stirrers out there.

 

[SorcererDonald16]

Happy Birthday mikelly's dd!

Thanks for all the congrats! I do have 15 grad credits already in sp ed, but they weren't transferring properly for Michigan endorsements so I'm starting all over. I HAD a perfect 4.0 in my grad classes. Something tells me it might be harder this time around! I'm taking most of my classes right out of UofM Fliint so not too far of a drive. If it were ann arbor it would be a no go unless I lived down there!

Everyone still alive today? Too many pot stirrers out there.

I worked my behind off for over two years at a really tough graduate program in a really tough school and graduated with a 4.0. You can do it, Debbie! We'll be here to cheer ya on all the way.

 

[wonderlanne]

The afforementioned former leader of my college pulled some stupid stunts himself. He was on record as saying he was deeply "concerned" about our Yule Log ceremony that had been going on for I don't even know how many years. Seriously, a Yule Log is now offensive? We had a chapel on campus (a very, very old campus, mind you), and while it's a public school now, it was founded as a Christian college. The man unilaterally went in without consulting with anyone and had the very small cross that had been there for almost 80 years removed. Even though anyone using the chapel could have it removed at any time. In the meantime, he fought for essentially a porn show to be shown on campus and funded by tuition money. The cross issue finally had to be addressed by a committee who returned it to the chapel, but in a glass case with a plaque nearby. Oh, he was a real winner. The buzz about him before it all happened was that he had targeted my alma mater to get the job because as an ACLU lawyer, he had set his sights on the school for its roots in Christian traditions so he could get rid of them. True or not, I don't know. Sounds right to me, though. He cost us millions of dollars, we were discussed and mocked in the national news... O'Reilly's people even came to campus, etc. Then when the BOV essentially fired him by not renewing his contract, he threw a public hissy fit via email, quit, and essentially accused the BOV (led by Colin Powell's son) of bribery. Then a bunch of pinhead professors started protests up the wazoo about it and refused to teach for a couple days! And some still unidentified idiots vandalized our historic buildings. What a totally disgusting period of time. I was ashamed to call myself an alum.

And all of it was in the name of "tolerance." That man had the nerve to say people of other faiths weren't made to feel welcome many times, when in reality I know full well he had to have known that many of his own daggone professors hated and mocked Christians in classes, and a few were publically anti-Semitic to boot.

yeah. so, uh...i really never understand stuff like this. what is the problem with having a cross in a chapel? that's where it should live. seems any tradition based in the strength of christianity has a big old bulls eye on it. who do guys like that former college "leader" think they're making happy by their actions? seems to be some sort of afliction. and it seems to be contagious. i'll check to see if i have some "dummies-be-gone" spray under the kitchen sink...maybe that'll help.

 

[studentmom]

I love those, photos, Mr. Man. I think it would be fun to put the Santa Sarah picture in my avatar.

Special Ed. is cool! I had my LD and gifted licenses, as well as an M.Ed...than I decided to be a stay-at-home mom! DH still gives me a hard time for all that education and $$. Oh well, I get paid in many other ways being with my kids...

That is awesome! I might need your help when the time comes

 

[debbieandroo]

I love those, photos, Mr. Man. I think it would be fun to put the Santa Sarah picture in my avatar.

ooo...great idea - I will if you will!!!!

 

[#1hockeymom]

I worked my behind off for over two years at a really tough graduate program in a really tough school and graduated with a 4.0. You can do it, Debbie! We'll be here to cheer ya on all the way.

Congrats! I see I'm with like company and go in freak out mode if I don't have a perfect paper/grade/project! Trust me, my school persona is much better at forming sentences than my social chat persona!

 

[debbieandroo]

To those of you who asked about my chocolate mint dessert - I made it for a party tonight and they turned out beautifully - a true hit!

And I took pictures, of the dessert that is --

I'm trying my hand at the whole food-styling, picture-cropping thing....and realize that it isn't time to quit my day job yet....