Conservative Thread: U.S. Steele - Back In Business

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Loco - Debbie Stabenow is my senator. Can't stand her. I think I may go and write her a nice email.

Question about the Fairness Doctrine - is it even Constitutional?
 
Reid thinks he has enough votes to pass the "stimulus".

God help us all!! I really don't know how long it will take our country to recover from this. They keep stackin' "it" higher.
 
Loco - Debbie Stabenow is my senator. Can't stand her. I think I may go and write her a nice email.

Question about the Fairness Doctrine - is it even Constitutional?

Actually, the Supreme Court upheld its Constitutionality by an 8-0 vote in 1969 (Red Lion Broadcasting vs. FCC), on the basis of "scarcity" in the airwaves, something that no longer exists with cable TV, satellite radio, internet streaming, etc., and the Court has since had a couple of rulings saying that if it is EVER used to restrain speech, then its Constitutionality MUST be re-examined because stifling debate is not their intention. Sadly, though, the FCC can reinstate it any time it wants to — they are not required to get Congressional approval. It probably would not pass muster with the Supremes in this modern world, but it would be a costly headache to get it to the Court. The ONLY reason the democrats (and it's ONLY democrats who want this) want to bring it back is to RESTRAIN SPEECH. Period. The Court will see that (at least the Court as it stands now — an Obama leftist Court down the road? Not so much…).

Here's a discussion on it from CATO: http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/2008/12/01/fairness-doctrine-post-mortem/
 

I think some in the press is beginning to turn on Obama. I think I mentioned Jake Tapper before but he is one WH correspondent that has NOT been blinded.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-4qEz1vea0

I just love to see Gibbs squirm.

Okay, the Stimulus thing has gotten personal. My mom calls (she is 90) scared to death after hearing there is a CATASTROPHE coming. This woman's cc is through her Merrill Lynch account and she has watched her portfolio drop from 7 figures prior to my Dad's death in August to a number I don't even ask about for fear of her becoming even more upset. She is now afraid to use her cc (which is paid through cash in the account) and wants to carry cash around in her purse, lots of it! Can you imagine what a target she would be?


My parents aren't as old as your mom but my dad was born in 1932 on a farm. To this day, he remembers the depression and yeah, he is more than a little disconcerted with what he is seeing.
 
Loco - Debbie Stabenow is my senator. Can't stand her. I think I may go and write her a nice email.

Question about the Fairness Doctrine - is it even Constitutional?

at first glance it SEEMS constitutional. what it will prevent is shows which are broadcast from, say, florida from being syndicated so the entire country can hear them.
 
smacks of china.

Welcome to the Communist States of America:sad1: . We've got to stop these people! Is the Senate going to vote on the stimulus tomorrow?? I know I heard that they wanted to have a vote on it tomorrow but that was several days ago and I have't heard much since, other than their still reworking it, anyone know?

Tina
 
I hope every Republican votes no.

Melt their phone lines. Make the calls. Tell them "NO!" I have been. :thumbsup2

I think some in the press is beginning to turn on Obama. I think I mentioned Jake Tapper before but he is one WH correspondent that has NOT been blinded.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-4qEz1vea0

I just love to see Gibbs squirm.

I saw that and thought it was high-larious. Did you see that creaky corpse Helen "Of Course I'm a Liberal and Darn Proud of It" Thomas casting him the evil eye? Man was she ever peeved at him. All the bags on her face were contorted into one huge scowl. She is definitely NOT going to flirt with Jake anymore. :rotfl2: :rotfl2:

Isn't it sad that we take note of the one person in the main stream media who is just DOING HIS JOB? Tapper's not remarkable, really, he's just doing what all the rest of those Obama sycophants are SUPPOSED to be doing — and yet it looks so remarkable to see a reporter actually not being a democrat party hack. When they ask a real question, we notice it, cuz it's such a rare thing. So sad.
 
Hi cons!!!! :) FINALLY am sitting down and watching Glenn. Is anyone else watching him?? I swear, Al Gore needs to be locked in the same rubber room as Nancy Pelosi. Glenn's discussing Gore's global warming crap and how Gore is literally brainwashing America's youth. It's scary. :scared1: Smacks of Hilter and the Hitler Youth.

The stimulus is scaring me to death. I pray it doesn't pass. I sincerely pray it fails.
 
Hi cons!!!! :) Glenn's discussing Gore's global warming crap and how Gore is literally brainwashing America's youth. It's scary. :scared1: Smacks of Hilter and the Hitler Youth.

I saw that. :sad2: He asked, "What next? Are they going to turn in their parents for watching that evil Fox News?"
 
I saw that. :sad2: He asked, "What next? Are they going to turn in their parents for watching that evil Fox News?"

Yeah. I saw. Did you see when he had that African American reverend on a few minutes ago? Reverend Jefferson or something like that.... I've never heard an African American talk about Obama in a negative way on TV before. It was great. I give the man a standing ovation for being black and daring to criticize Obama at the risk of being called a racist. I'll check Fox's website later and see if they put up the video. If you guys didn't see it, you have to.

Here's some of Glenn's thoughts on the stimulus-

http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/21108/

And THIS is just scary and wrong-

http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=87929 I'm going to post the story in case some of you can't access the link-

THE NEW WORLD DISORDER
United Nations' threat: No more parental rights
Expert: Pact would ban spankings, homeschooling if children object

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Posted: February 05, 2009
12:00 am Eastern


By Chelsea Schilling
© 2009 WorldNetDaily


A United Nations human rights treaty that could prohibit children from being spanked or homeschooled, ban youngsters from facing the death penalty and forbid parents from deciding their families' religion is on America's doorstep, a legal expert warns.

Michael Farris of Purcellville, Va., is president of ParentalRights.org, chairman of the Home School Legal Defense Association and chancellor of Patrick Henry College. He told WND that under the U.N. Convention on the Rights of the Child, or CRC, every decision a parent makes can be reviewed by the government to determine whether it is in the child's best interest.

"It's definitely on our doorstep," he said. "The left wants to make the Obama-Clinton era permanent. Treaties are a way to make it as permanent as stuff gets. It is very difficult to extract yourself from a treaty once you begin it. If they can put all of their left-wing socialist policies into treaty form, we're stuck with it even if they lose the next election."

The 1990s-era document was ratified quickly by 193 nations worldwide, but not the United States or Somalia. In Somalia, there was then no recognized government to do the formal recognition, and in the United States there's been opposition to its power. Countries that ratify the treaty are bound to it by international law.

Although signed by Madeleine Albright, U.S. ambassador to the U.N., on Feb. 16, 1995, the U.S. Senate never ratified the treaty, largely because of conservatives' efforts to point out it would create that list of rights which primarily would be enforced against parents.

The international treaty creates specific civil, economic, social, cultural and even economic rights for every child and states that "the best interests of the child shall be a primary consideration." While the treaty states that parents or legal guardians "have primary responsibility for the upbringing and development of the child," Farris said government will ultimately determine whether parents' decisions are in their children's best interest. The treaty is monitored by the CRC, which conceivably has enforcement powers.

According to the Parental Rights website, the substance of the CRC dictates the following:

  • Parents would no longer be able to administer reasonable spankings to their children.
  • A murderer aged 17 years, 11 months and 29 days at the time of his crime could no longer be sentenced to life in prison.
  • Children would have the ability to choose their own religion while parents would only have the authority to give their children advice about religion.
  • The best interest of the child principle would give the government the ability to override every decision made by every parent if a government worker disagreed with the parent's decision.
  • A child's "right to be heard" would allow him (or her) to seek governmental review of every parental decision with which the child disagreed.
  • According to existing interpretation, it would be illegal for a nation to spend more on national defense than it does on children's welfare.
  • Children would acquire a legally enforceable right to leisure.
  • Teaching children about Christianity in schools has been held to be out of compliance with the CRC.
  • Allowing parents to opt their children out of sex education has been held to be out of compliance with the CRC.
  • Children would have the right to reproductive health information and services, including abortions, without parental knowledge or consent.

"Where the child has a right fulfilled by the government, the responsibilities shift from parents to the government," Farris said. "The implications of all this shifting of responsibilities is that parents no longer have the traditional roles of either being responsible for their children or having the right to direct their children."

The government would decide what is in the best interest of a children in every case, and the CRC would be considered superior to state laws, Farris said. Parents could be treated like criminals for making every-day decisions about their children's lives.

"If you think your child shouldn't go to the prom because their grades were low, the U.N. Convention gives that power to the government to review your decision and decide if it thinks that's what's best for your child," he said. "If you think that your children are too young to have a Facebook account, which interferes with the right of communication, the U.N. gets to determine whether or not your decision is in the best interest of the child."

He continued, "If you think your child should go to church three times a week, but the child wants to go to church once a week, the government gets to decide what it thinks is in the best interest of the children on the frequency of church attendance."

He said American social workers would be the ones responsible for implementation of the policies.

Farris said it could be easier for President Obama to push for ratification of the treaty than it was for the Clinton administration because "the political world has changed."

At a Walden University presidential debate last October, Obama indicated he may take action.

"It's embarrassing to find ourselves in the company of Somalia, a lawless land," Obama said. "I will review this and other treaties to ensure the United States resumes its global leadership in human rights."

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has been a strong supporter of the CRC, and she now has direct control over the treaty's submission to the Senate for ratification. The process requires a two-thirds vote.

Farris said Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., claimed in a private meeting just before Christmas that the treaty would be ratified within two years.

In November, a group of three dozen senior foreign policy figures urged Obama to strengthen U.S. relations with the U.N. Among other things, they asked the president to push for Senate approval of treaties that have been signed by the U.S. but not ratified.

Partnership for a Secure America Director Matthew Rojansky helped draft the statement. He said the treaty commands strong support and is likely to be acted on quickly, according to an Inter Press Service report.

While he said ratification is certain to come up, Farris said advocates of the treaty will face fierce opposition.

"I think it is going to be the battle of their lifetime," he said. "There's not enough political capital in Washington, D.C., to pass this treaty. We will defeat it."
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THE NEW WORLD DISORDER
United Nations' threat: No more parental rights
Expert: Pact would ban spankings, homeschooling if children object
Wow. Just...wow. I'm appalled that they think parents shouldn't have rights to their own children. That sounds like Nazi Germany where they'd take the kids from German citizens and raise them.
 
Wow. Just...wow. I'm appalled that they think parents shouldn't have rights to their own children. That sounds like Nazi Germany where they'd take the kids from German citizens and raise them.

:sad2: Awful, isn't it?? But out of that article, this is the scariest-

Farris said it could be easier for President Obama to push for ratification of the treaty than it was for the Clinton administration because "the political world has changed."

At a Walden University presidential debate last October, Obama indicated he may take action.

"It's embarrassing to find ourselves in the company of Somalia, a lawless land," Obama said. "I will review this and other treaties to ensure the United States resumes its global leadership in human rights."

So I guess that idiot thinks this is ok?? Geez. I find more and more reasons to hate that man every single day.
 
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