jade1
I spend half my money on WDW, and waste the rest.
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Basically most everything else in the park, okay. I get it.
When would you recommend they get those FP's?
Your kidding right?
Basically most everything else in the park, okay. I get it.
When would you recommend they get those FP's?
It sounds like a great success for you, but it also sounds like you go to the parks quite often.
What about everyone else? Maybe it's their first time or they only get to go every few years after they've sacrificed and saved in order to afford it. A single 45 minute interval out of an entire day, while satisfying to you, may only be considered a start for them. What would they do outside of those 45 minutes? And in the aggregate, would they also consider their day to be a success?
Your kidding right?
Liking the discussion.
Yes we did get TSM for that evening to go with Fantasmic, day of-in the park, Easter week for 4.
But again-my whole point was to debunk some of the myths thrown out over the years about what would happen with FP+.
It was never to say others should not reserve asap-just that "WE" won't be/haven't.
1) Nothing would be available if not reserved at midnight 60 days.
A) Not even mentioning the time of year
B) We did this Easter week and XMAS week (XMAS eve for XMAS day) many inside the park.
C) And even more the first week of Mar and Thanksgiving
D) Some selections we made those weeks, TSM/TOT/RNR/EE/Safari/FOTLK/Soarin/TT/SE/7DMT/BTMRR/Space/Splash/Pan/Pirates/A&E
Debunked- Not for us, I've been trying to simply change a fp+ time for 7dmmt since the 62 day for the beginning of May and have been unable to do so. We are therefore left with either not doing an adr that I had been trying for and got, or not doing 7dmt. Also we've tried to slightly vary some times for other fp's and cant get times we want now, 3 weeks prior.
2) And certainly scraps at best at 30 days for the offsiters
Debunked- if one isn't picky about times or attractions maybe you'd be right
3) FP+ will fill the ques minute one so the headliners will not be done quickly at RD.
A) Not even mentioning the time of year
B) Did RNR/TSM/TOT in 45 minutes Easter week
Debunked- dont know...we were never rope droppers because before fp+ we could stroll into the park later, still get fp's and not have ridiculous sb lines for secondaries and have far more fun
4) With FP+ you can't start each day with a clean slate.
A) You can reserve FP+ for the evening, and start every day with a clean slate, RD a park, sleep, fish, golf etc.
B) We had no FP+ reserved (Clean slate) and did TSM/RNR/TOT in 45 minutes and reserved ST/Frozen and TSM to go with Fantasmic Easter week inside the park.
Debunked- there would be 0 chance of getting headliners for us if we showed up now at the same time as we used to prior to fp+ In the past sometimes we could, and if we couldn't there was still a lot to do without 45 minute lines
5) With FP+ you can't do last minute trips, except with FP+ scraps
Debunked-wrong again. WE cant do last minute trips with fp+ WE WOULDNT. since I've now seen twice that WE would not have any luck with it. Heck I wouldn't now book without 60 days since I want flexibility, so its onsite or throwaways for us when and if.
6) You can't get FP+ if you don't have a computer/internet.
A) We used the kiosk Easter week and got all headliners except A&E
B) Got everything the first week of Mar including A&E
Debunked-I guess we could use someone else's but I would never ever ever ever ever ever go to any Disney park without fp's lined up in advance now. Im not big on 45 minute lines for potc, and iasm
7) You can't use FP+ without an internet phone.
A) We used the kiosk Easter week and got all headliners except A&E
B) Got everything the first week of Mar including A&E
Debunked-on this we agree. For us there was never anything worthwhile for a 4th or more fp+ to book at the kiosk, and we could never change our 3 booked fp's to anything worthwhile so yes we didnt need one because it was sadly, useless for us.
8) If you can get a good FP+ in the park it will be for one guest.
A) Ours were for 4, many for 7.
Debunked-we are booking for only 2
KEEP IN MIND-WE COULD HAVE INDEED FOUND NOTHING AVAILABLE-IT JUST DIDN'T HAPPEN.
And still recommend folks reserve asap-just not us, after 4 trips we have drawn our own conclusion. We have as well but it isn't the same conclusion.
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Not at all. You've shown how you've been able to walk into a park and get the FP's you've wanted at a kiosk. Would you recommend doing that or reserving them in advance?
Keep in mind-"Book as soon as possible" can be the day before. I'm showing that even that can be (was) highly successful, even "day of" was.
2 last minute trips in a row-advance reserving not needed for us-Fact and Conclusion.
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Exactly-actual feedback is required to make decisions, all types should be out there and available.
And still recommend folks reserve asap-just not us, after 4 trips we have drawn our own conclusion.
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You haven't made a good case for why someone would book a stay at a Disney resort, have 60 day advance FP booking privileges, but instead wait until the day before to book them.
You haven't made a case for why it's PREFERABLE or BETTER to book "by the seat of your pants".
You have simply made the case that if you do, all is not lost. Not that you can't have BETTER options by planning in advance.
Keep in mind-"Book as soon as possible" can be the day before. I'm showing that even that can be (was) highly successful, even "day of" was.
2 last minute trips in a row-advance reserving not needed for us-Fact and Conclusion.
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Exactly-actual feedback is required to make decisions, all types should be out there and available.
And still recommend folks reserve asap-just not us, after 4 trips we have drawn our own conclusion.
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That's because I have not tried to make that case, and would not. I have actually posted the opposite.
Make sure you read all the responses.
Ok, you have made a concession here and there, in the midst of an all out effort to prove that you have the BEST days every time you go, ride the headliners multiple times, don't just take those unwanted late night FPs, in peak weaks AND Spring Break, with no planning, no phone, AND with a blurry picture of the queue at TSMM with a time stamp on your phone to prove how awesome of a time you are having ...
AND it feels a bit like you are scoffing at those who DO plan, DO book ahead, DO use their phones because it's all just SO unnecessary because you have the best trips ever and you don't do any of that silly stuff.
If that's not what you're trying to say, then perhaps I'm misreading, but I think that's why people have gotten their backs up.
I am glad you have good days with little planning. I really am. I don't think it's the gold standard way to plan, and I don't think your results are typical.
That's because I have not tried to make that case, and would not. I have actually posted the opposite.
Make sure you read all the responses.
Uhhhh...think you're forgetting what he said about the other week though. Talk about selective recall....lol !Perfect-even LakeTravis had similar results on a busy week.![]()
jade that's not fair more then likely you don't need park maps, too.
There is a Hugh difference between me and you and people that don't go often, don't have info on which way to go to max their time, for what they want out of a disney trip.
I would love to show up and not plan which day, which park at disney like in the old days before fp + and -, but most of the times the crowd levels now are to high to just call and get ADR for the castle or hop into a afternoon 30/45 min line for a headliner the day of.
I hope fp+ day of planning takes back some of the greed that happened with fp-, but only time will tell.
Ha sorry-I think that came off as the opposite. I see your point.
I meant I made the case that minimal planning can work, but would make the case that maximum planning and Disney resorts is the best.
My bad.
jade that's not fair more then likely you don't need park maps, too.
There is a Hugh difference between me and you and people that don't go often, don't have info on which way to go to max their time, for what they want out of a disney trip.
I would love to show up and not plan which day, which park at disney like in the old days before fp + and -, but most of the times the crowd levels now are to high to just call and get ADR for the castle or hop into a afternoon 30/45 min line for a headliner the day of.
I hope fp+ day of planning takes back some of the greed that happened with fp-, but only time will tell.
jade1 - you have made a good case that IF you don't book FPs until day before or day of, you can still have a good day. And as I've said before, that's good news for some - mainly those who don't have other options.
You haven't made a good case for why that should be anyone's plan of first resort, or even second ... or third.
You haven't made a good case for why someone would book a stay at a Disney resort, have 60 day advance FP booking privileges, but instead wait until the day before to book them.
You haven't made a case for why it's PREFERABLE or BETTER to book "by the seat of your pants".
You have simply made the case that if you do, all is not lost. Not that you can't have BETTER options by planning in advance.
That's because I have not tried to make that case, and would not. I have actually posted the opposite.
Make sure you read all the responses.
jade1 - you have made a good case that IF you don't book FPs until day before or day of, you can still have a good day. And as I've said before, that's good news for some - mainly those who don't have other options.
You haven't made a good case for why that should be anyone's plan of first resort, or even second ... or third.
You haven't made a good case for why someone would book a stay at a Disney resort, have 60 day advance FP booking privileges, but instead wait until the day before to book them.
You haven't made a case for why it's PREFERABLE or BETTER to book "by the seat of your pants".
You have simply made the case that if you do, all is not lost. Not that you can't have BETTER options by planning in advance.
Gads what a mess.
What I meant was-I "ONLY" made a case for the minimal planning.
That wasn't meant to mean folks shouldn't plan, which is why I posted my quotes as to that effect-that indeed most can/should.
I will follow up a "case" for exactly that.
No biggie.
My main concern is for those less experienced folks who might casually read your "conclusion" thread, and feel safe not planning. I understand that some are reluctant to figure out the FP system and book advance FPs. It feels confusing, and like a hassle. I think for the first time visitor, it's well worth figuring out. That's all.
I'm one of those crazy planners who will book early and change often!
Its not anyone's fault if less experienced folks decide to make them selfs less informed on what is going on.