Conclusion - Need to Book FP+ as soon as possible

[MikeandReneePlus5]

I reserved my FP+ 60 days out and I am happy to hear that for the most part there is flexibility in the system even up to a few days before (or the day of!) to tweak my FP+ ressies or get more, sometimes even for headliners (which are easy to ride at least twice anyway without any additional FP+ by simply getting there when the park opens).

It is ALL good. Dunno why all this silliness with point proving and competing threads.

Has not FP+ been a big success? Do people really still hate it?

 

[lauradis]

So at 8:00 in the morning, you were able to get a FP+ for TSM for early that evening? Under the legacy FP+ system, I was able to get a FP at 9:00 for 9:40, another one at 9:40 for 1:00ish, and final one at 1:00 for that evening. And you wonder why some of us preferred the old way.

I'm also not really understanding how these experiences fit in with your "we don't RD we only go in the evenings" touring strategy that you've been touting. Clearly you were there in person, at RD to be at the kiosks to get these FP+s. You went all the way to Epcot to book FP+s there (I'm not sure why you didn't just use your phone?). I'm not really seeing what you're proving here. To me, you're only proving that same day FPs for headliners will only be available for much later in the day even at the beginning of the day. And you're also showing that RD is extremely beneficial, which I think we all agree on.

The point is most people that visit arent Rope droppers, thats why the crowd volume increases in the early afternoon.

So now my non morning RD people (not me) can sleep in and still get TSM fp tickets.

So now my non morning RD people (not me) can sleep in and still get soaring or test track fp tickets

So now my non morning RD people (not me) can sleep in and still get other headliners that always ran out.

You have to see both sides of the FP mess.

 

[jade1]

It's just so simple.
What could possibly go wrong?

Nothing in 3 peaks weeks and 1 spring break week anyway.

 

[jade1]

I don't understand what this picture is intended to represent?

Nothing more than being on TSM 3 minutes after park opening.

 

[lauradis]

I won't wait to book, but I wouldn't be scared of a last minute trip and I won't lose sleep waiting to book. Will just do it when convenient.

This is what I think the casual disney visitor is doing.

 

[IBFW]

Nothing more than being on TSM 3 minutes after park opening.

That shouldn't be news.

 

[jade1]

Another perfect example of someone just being unable to allow a phrase with negative connotation being attached to FP+.

A clean slate has 2 parts, 1) You haven't pre-planned anything, you can decide what to do at the moment. 2) Other people haven't had the opportunity to book things ahead of time.

2 - is the most important element. Even if you and only you had booked FP+ (no one else was allowed to) you could argue that every morning was a clean slate because you could decide whether to follow those plans or not, you could do something else. Each day would be a clean slate.

You did not start a day with a clean slate - it can be argued but to do so looks foolish.

If there are 10 slots available in a day for an attraction and people have already pre-chosen 8, and I wake up in the morning and pick that attraction and indeed get a reservation, that is NOT a clean slate. That is me still being able to get what I want, despite the fact that others have pre-booked. And of course, as we have seen MANY times here, this simply is not an experience you can count on having.

I can see the clean slate points made-in other words "everybody" having a clean slate first thing in the am. Point taken.

Our "usual" touring (and the average arrival guest being noon) didn't permit that, and Easter week (and XMAS) it was dramatically worse.

However-now you have the choice IMO. You can "be safe" and reserve ahead, or you can do what we did Easter week.

We did in fact start each day with a clean slate. We woke up and picked a park-it can't be argued.

Point was taken on your opinion of you can't start each day with a clean slate. Just don't agree with it.

 

[lauradis]

I reserved my FP+ 60 days out and I am happy to hear that for the most part there is flexibility in the system even up to a few days before (or the day of!) to tweak my FP+ ressies or get more, sometimes even for headliners (which are easy to ride at least twice anyway without any additional FP+ by simply getting there when the park opens).

It is ALL good. Dunno why all this silliness with point proving and competing threads.

Has not FP+ been a big success? Do people really still hate it?

Heck yea, but then the disboard is still looking into loop holes to have better insider info on how to beat the current disney system, just like the last one.

 

[IBFW]

The point is most people that visit arent Rope droppers, thats why the crowd volume increases in the early afternoon.

So now my non morning RD people (not me) can sleep in and still get TSM fp tickets.

So now my non morning RD people (not me) can sleep in and still get soaring or test track fp tickets

So now my non morning RD people (not me) can sleep in and still get other headliners that always ran out.

You have to see both sides of the FP mess.

I can definitely see that. Would you wait until you got to the parks to get your FP's or would you reserve them ahead of time?

 

[jade1]

I reserved my FP+ 60 days out and I am happy to hear that for the most part there is flexibility in the system even up to a few days before (or the day of!) to tweak my FP+ ressies or get more, sometimes even for headliners (which are easy to ride at least twice anyway without any additional FP+ by simply getting there when the park opens).

It is ALL good. Dunno why all this silliness with point proving and competing threads.

Has not FP+ been a big success? Do people really still hate it?

Perfect-even LakeTravis had similar results on a busy week.

 

[jade1]

That shouldn't be news.

It's in the context of the reply-just showing what you can do Easter week at RD.

One example is Wednesday of Easter week-we woke up and went to DHS. Doing TSM/RNR/TOT in 45 minutes a peak week is a success IMO. We also woke up and did AK by noon (nemo was at noon), Safari/EE/Dino/FOTLK/TTBAB/Nemo.

One example is Wednesday of Easter week-we woke up and went to DHS. Doing TSM/RNR/TOT in 45 minutes a peak week is a success IMO. We also woke up and did AK by noon (nemo was at noon), Safari/EE/Dino/FOTLK/TTBAB/Nemo.

These were without any FP+ Easter week. So none of that has changed with FP+, I would think folks would be happy to hear that.

The fact that we could have reserved FP+ for later, or even evenings makes that even better.

The fact we were able to reserve all headliners in the parks "day of" should be even better news.

We needed no phones, no computers, and no plans.

 

[IBFW]

One example is Wednesday of Easter week-we woke up and went to DHS. Doing TSM/RNR/TOT in 45 minutes a peak week is a success IMO. We also woke up and did AK by noon (nemo was at noon), Safari/EE/Dino/FOTLK/TTBAB/Nemo.

It sounds like a great success for you, but it also sounds like you go to the parks quite often.

What about everyone else? Maybe it's their first time or they only get to go every few years after they've sacrificed and saved in order to afford it. A single 45 minute interval out of an entire day, while satisfying to you, may only be considered a start for them. What would they do outside of those 45 minutes? And in the aggregate, would they also consider their day to be a success?

 

[jade1]

It sounds like a great success for you, but it also sounds like you go to the parks quite often.

What about everyone else? Maybe it's their first time or they only get to go every few years. What would they do outside of those 45 minutes? And in the aggregate, would they also consider their day to be a success?

Kinda of like FP- folks in the past?

 

[lauradis]

I can definitely see that. Would you wait until you got to the parks to get your FP's or would you reserve them ahead of time?

I would never stay off site to save a couple of hundred dollars, anywhere.

I advise everyone to book fp and adr asap. then move them around to your individual plan.

I'm a spreadsheet person, so nope I wouldn't like the last min planning. Learning to be more mellow, so the plans can change.

ei this next trip is planned around when and if we can get V&A chef table, everything else will second to that.

I'm past the Disney for rides only stage, except for tot dd fav and new mine one.

 

[IBFW]

Kinda of like FP- folks in the past?

I don't understand your comment.

 

[WillAustin]

Kinda of like FP- folks in the past?

Equating inability to get FP+s because they are all given out in advance, with FP-s being gone for late arrivals to the parks only confirms the idea that you should always book in advance.

 

[IBFW]

I would never stay off site to save a couple of hundred dollars, anywhere.

I advise everyone to book fp and adr asap. then move them around to your individual plan.

I'm a spreadsheet person, so nope I wouldn't like the last min planning. Learning to be more mellow, so the plans can change.

ei this next trip is planned around when and if we can get V&A chef table, everything else will second to that.

I'm past the Disney for rides only stage, except for tot dd fav and new mine one.

I wasn't wondering if you stayed onsite or offsite, was just curious if you reserved your FP's ahead of time because I can see your point about being able to sleep late and go to the parks later in the day and be able to use FP's. And that seemed important to you at the time but if you are past the "rides only stage" and don't like to plan I can only guess that you don't reserve FP's ahead of time?

 

[jade1]

It sounds like a great success for you, but it also sounds like you go to the parks quite often.

What about everyone else? Maybe it's their first time or they only get to go every few years. What would they do outside of those 45 minutes? And in the aggregate, would they also consider their day to be a success?

But they could do what we also did-select ST/Frozen and TSM, then fill in around it what they want.

EX:

SB TSM
SB RNR
SB TOT

TGMR
FP+ ST
Indy
Muppets
FP+ Frozen
Lights Motor

FP+TSM
VOTLM
B&B

Fantasmic

 

[jade1]

It sounds like a great success for you, but it also sounds like you go to the parks quite often.

Kinda of like FP- folks in the past?

Equating inability to get FP+s because they are all given out in advance, with FP-s being gone for late arrivals to the parks only confirms the idea that you should always book in advance.

Who said inability to get FP+, we got them in the park.

 

[IBFW]

But they could do what we also did-select TS/Frozen and TSM, then fill in around it what they want.

EX:

SB TSM
SB RNR
SB TOT

TGMR
FP+ ST
Indy
Muppets
FP+ Frozen
Lights Motor

FP+TSM
VOTLM
B&B

Fantasmic

Basically most everything else in the park, okay. I get it.

When would you recommend they get those FP's?