Coming from NY. This is horrible

[Jrb1979]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1282711931913220100

 

[godisney14]

Yes, NYC did have alot of cases due to the density of the population But don't forget about the governor sending the elderly, who had COVID back into nursing homes/assisted livings (where the most vulnerable are) and many cases/deaths resulted by that horrible move. This was after the governor asked the federal government for the military ship/hospital that barely any patients ever used! Terrible.

Sounds like you don’t know very much on the restrictions and procedures that were placed by the Navy of which patients and how patients could have been admitted into the ship. It wasn’t just simple as rerouting an ambulance to the ship.

Congrats New York on a wonderful milestone on the no deaths this past weekend. I hope you all continue with the pattern. Each and every little step adds up!

I don’t want to sound like a party pooper as NY has really reduced their trend down with the virus. But, the 7-day moving average of daily new deaths was 10. To go from a week of that to 0 seems unlikely. A gap in reports seems more plausible.

And its important not to forget that deaths are a lagging metric of cases and of the reports themselves.

 

[roomthreeseventeen]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1282711931913220100

This is good news. It looks like our public schools might open with in person instruction.

 

[Searc]

Again, unless you live in New York, you have no idea what 9/11 was about.

Anyone who was an adult on 9/11 knows what it was about. This idea that only NYC was affected is wrong.

 

[butterscotchcollins]

You lose everyone with your arrogance. New Yorkers didn't own 9/11 or its repercussions.

That's incredibly rude considering I didn't say anything to the contrary, and also off topic.

 

[roomthreeseventeen]

Anyone who was an adult on 9/11 knows what it was about. This idea that only NYC was affected is wrong.

I think that's fine. What I'm saying is I can close my eyes and remember what the burning buildings smelled like. Those of us who lived here have a different perspective.

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

Again, unless you live in New York, you have no idea what 9/11 was about.

Yeah what was that? A bank robbery or something? Please explain to this non New Yorker what 9/11 was all about because I have "no idea."

 

[DisneyJamieCA]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1282711931913220100

This is good! I just read they were able to tie an outbreak to travelers from Georgia, I think. I may have the state wrong.

NY is also seeing a surge in cases in their 20 yr old demographic, per CNN. I really hope for NY, nobody is getting complacent!

ETA: It is NYers who traveled to GA. Not people from GA.

 

[DisneyJamieCA]

That's incredibly rude considering I didn't say anything to the contrary, and also off topic.

Reread your post. That is very much the way it came across,

 

[Chrisinroch]

Bashing Fl doesn't help. If you don't feel comfortable, you have a choice.

Is it “bashing“ to point out the real situation on the ground in Florida?

 

[butterscotchcollins]

And not meant as a tit for tat, but my area has also lived through 3 years of devastating wildfires that destroyed entire communities. Our fire season has started early this year and we’re dealing with that on top of the virus. Our community has come together in a way I couldn’t believe over the last three years, so that is not exclusive to your area. But that doesn’t mean we’ve had it harder in a way nobody else will understand.

I'm so sorry you've gone through that and I don't take it as a tit for tat. Fires are not a thing here and I am horrified and devastated when I see them happening on the west coast (I imagine you live in CA but I could be wrong). And in fact that IS something that nobody else would understand, unless they've lived through something similar. I haven't, so I can't presume to know what the fear and uncertainty of having a wave of fire bearing down on your home is like.

I didn't mean for my comment to insinuate that no community has ever gone through something rough, more to highlight the compounded hardships and once-in-a-lifetime devastating events that have clearly happened many times over, not just once, here. It's not just one big event - it's multiple, and that's a pretty unique situation to constantly have to overcome. I'm incredibly proud to be a New Yorker and we went through a really scary few months so far this year - I know so many people who have lost loved ones even though I have mercifully been spared. I'm asking as someone who has already lived through a crest that people take this seriously, learn from what has helped us combat the virus, take the necessary precautions, educate your family/friends/neighbors, and don't be salty that one community is able to breathe a little easier for now while another is experiencing something even worse.

 

[DisneyJamieCA]

The Gov took full responsibility for his move regarding the nursing homes. Without federal guidance OR responsibility mistakes were made. But as NY learned from their mistakes adjustments were made. NY numbers are good...for now. Now we will suffer again because of 30+ states not following our lead and denying reality and science. I am so disgusted with deniers compromising public health.

This is the kind of arrogance I'm talking about! 30+ states, really? CA is the most populous state and did really well - made the hard calls right away and before they were popular and truly crushed the curve. Now we're in trouble and taking corrective measures. How is that denying reality and science? So are many other states. There are a handful that are doing what they want, but they do not represent the entire US. And NY is no angel with this virus, so stop pretending that NY didn't make horrible, non-science backed decisions along to way as well.

 

[DisneyJamieCA]

I'm so sorry you've gone through that and I don't take it as a tit for tat. Fires are not a thing here and I am horrified and devastated when I see them happening on the west coast (I imagine you live in CA but I could be wrong). And in fact that IS something that nobody else would understand, unless they've lived through something similar. I haven't, so I can't presume to know what the fear and uncertainty of having a wave of fire bearing down on your home is like.

I didn't mean for my comment to insinuate that no community has ever gone through something rough, more to highlight the compounded hardships and once-in-a-lifetime devastating events that have clearly happened many times over, not just once, here. It's not just one big event - it's multiple, and that's a pretty unique situation to constantly have to overcome. I'm incredibly proud to be a New Yorker and we went through a really scary few months so far this year - I know so many people who have lost loved ones even though I have mercifully been spared. I'm asking as someone who has already lived through a crest that people take this seriously, learn from what has helped us combat the virus, take the necessary precautions, educate your family/friends/neighbors, and don't be salty that one community is able to breathe a little easier for now while another is experiencing something even worse.

There is nothing wrong with being proud to be New Yorker. You should be. And you should be extremely proud at how your state rebounded from this virus. It truly is admirable.

But all of those things you mentioned, the entire nation went through at the same time. One after another (except for Sandy, which was East coast exclusive, but then we all had our own natural disasters to live through). So that isn't something that only NY had to live through. Or have to pull together after. That said, there is nothing wrong with being proud of how your community pulled together during those times. I'm proud of mine (and yes, I'm in N. California).

 

[butterscotchcollins]

There is nothing wrong with being proud to be New Yorker. You should be. And you should be extremely proud at how your state rebounded from this virus. It truly is admirable.

But all of those things you mentioned, the entire nation went through at the same time. One after another (except for Sandy, which was East coast exclusive, but then we all had our own natural disasters to live through). So that isn't something that only NY had to live through. Or have to pull together after. That said, there is nothing wrong with being proud of how your community pulled together during those times. I'm proud of mine (and yes, I'm in N. California).

Thank you. I don't want to encourage the continuation of this topic since it's off topic so let's get back to chatting about coronavirus. We're supposed to be getting married in November and I didn't want to get marred in NY because it's so expensive so we picked New Orleans. I pray that this gets better, and fast, that people take this virus seriously and wear their masks and that is my extremely selfish reason as to why

 

[Heigh-Ho]

I think that's fine. What I'm saying is I can close my eyes and remember what the burning buildings smelled like. Those of us who lived here have a different perspective.

This may be an excellent opportunity for you to remember it wasn't just people who reside in NYC who were there that day.

In terms of 9/11 I think there can be several levels of aftermaths and experiences that can be described as proximity to each event that occurred that day (be it physical or relationship). I can agree on that. However, that does not translate into only NYC citizens are the ones who can stake claim to it.

It's been almost 19 years. I find it disheartening to a point that after all this time the experiences, the mental and physical scars, the death toll and the injuries and so much more have been reduced by some as "you aren't from here you don't know what it was like" despite the fact that they were there or knew someone close to them that was there. Or that they weren't also impacted by it some other way. The families of the plane crash casualties not only from the WTC but the Pentagon, and the PA flight, or the children and other people literally watched the second plane hit the tower even if it was just from a tv. If you aren't an NYC citizen I guess to some you just don't matter in terms of your experiences or emotions.

 

[butterscotchcollins]

This may be an excellent opportunity for you to remember it wasn't just people who reside in NYC who were there that day.

In terms of 9/11 I think there can be several levels of aftermaths and experiences that can be described as proximity to each event that occurred that day (be it physical or relationship). I can agree on that. However, that does not translate into only NYC citizens are the ones who can stake claim to it.

It's been almost 19 years. I find it disheartening to a point that after all this time the experiences, the mental and physical scars, the death toll and the injuries and so much more have been reduced by some as "you aren't from here you don't know what it was like" despite the fact that they were there or knew someone close to them that was there. Or that they weren't also impacted by it some other way. The families of the plane crash casualties not only from the WTC but the Pentagon, and the PA flight, or the children and other people literally watched the second plane hit the tower even if it was just from a tv. If you aren't an NYC citizen I guess to some you just don't matter in terms of your experiences or emotions.

You have a point but I kindly ask, since my comment wasn't meant to insinuate that no one but NYers experienced this, that we get back on topic. If you'd like I can open a new thread for this on the Community Board so we can continue this discussion. Otherwise...coronavirus: What's up with that?

 

[Heigh-Ho]

I don’t want to sound like a party pooper as NY has really reduced their trend down with the virus. But, the 7-day moving average of daily new deaths was 10. To go from a week of that to 0 seems unlikely. A gap in reports seems more plausible.

And its important not to forget that deaths are a lagging metric of cases and of the reports themselves.

Oh..hmm that could that case. No you're not being a party pooper. I just wanted to interject some encouragement here

 

[DisneyJamieCA]

You have a point but I kindly ask, since my comment wasn't meant to insinuate that no one but NYers experienced this, that we get back on topic. If you'd like I can open a new thread for this on the Community Board so we can continue this discussion. Otherwise...coronavirus: What's up with that?

He wasn't replying to you. He was replying to somebody who said if you were out of NY, you don't know what 9/11 was all about or that it didn't affect anybody else.

But I agree, we can move on.

 

[DisneyJamieCA]

I don’t want to sound like a party pooper as NY has really reduced their trend down with the virus. But, the 7-day moving average of daily new deaths was 10. To go from a week of that to 0 seems unlikely. A gap in reports seems more plausible.

And its important not to forget that deaths are a lagging metric of cases and of the reports themselves.

I unfortunately agree. And we should be clear that NYC had zero deaths. NY had 10 yesterday. I've been guilty of interchanging the two on the this thread. Either way, I'd still take it over the 480 something my state had yesterday.

https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news...13-20-intl/h_4a13621685b7b3066e928523556a8ad4

 

[Heigh-Ho]

You have a point but I kindly ask, since my comment wasn't meant to insinuate that no one but NYers experienced this, that we get back on topic. If you'd like I can open a new thread for this on the Community Board so we can continue this discussion. Otherwise...coronavirus: What's up with that?

The poster I was specifically responding to said more than once "if you don't live here". I was responding directly to that.

You're the one who brought up 9/11, Sandy, and 2008. I know you don't mean anything by it but I'm not sure I'm the one who needs to create a new thread because I happen to comment about them even if it was just more than once they were in responses to other things posted about those topics. I mean that without bite to it truly because I know you don't mean anything by it I can understand wanting to move on with the discussion, that's fine by me and you're right really let's continue talking about quarantines based states and how that's affecting travel (well whatever travel you can actually do).

Has anyone known someone who completely changed their plans based on these quarantines? Clearly 28 days (or even just the 7 days if your state has that part about negative test result) is not feasible plus any time you spend for vacation which I know is the point.