Coming from NY. This is horrible

[DisneyJamieCA]

I am just saying NY shouldn't pat itself on the back for such a great week.

Look, I’ve been a critic of how arrogant many NYers have acted in the last month as their numbers have come down. But zero deaths is a huge thing and absolutely something they should be happy about. Something we ALL should be happy about because it shows it is possible to get out of this mess we’re in. Why wouldn’t they celebrate such a huge milestone?

They can also be upset about gun violence, but that would be another thread. They are not mutually exclusive. Why would you try to come dump on them like that? Why would anybody root against a state who is doing so well in the Covid battle?

And to be clear, they did not pat themselves on the back for a great week. They are happy for a great Covid weekend. And after what they’ve been through, they deserve to be happy about the milestone.

 

[Heigh-Ho]

It sounds like y'all are jealous of New York Maybe take a breather.

Maybe the people coming off very smug, as opposed to grateful for each and every stride they make, in NY should take a breather. Reading through what people are saying there is a lot of haughtiness coming from particular people. I don't think other people are actually jealous of NY though.

 

[Heigh-Ho]

Congrats New York on a wonderful milestone on the no deaths this past weekend. I hope you all continue with the pattern. Each and every little step adds up!

 

[roomthreeseventeen]

IMO gun ownership and violence should be a public health discussion.

Seems like people are just bringing it up because New York has largely gotten rid of COVID and your states haven't.

 

[butterscotchcollins]

In my relatively short life as a born and bred New Yorker we’ve lived through 9/11, the 2008 economic crisis, Sandy, and now this - unless you’re from here you have NO idea how tough, resilient, compassionate, brave, and neighborly you actually have to be every day, as you will never have to face, endure, or experience what we have. And I wouldn’t trade it for anything. So if you have a problem with how New York City has managed to get the virus under control while also addressing the civil unrest, economic turmoil, and looming civic decisions about schools and work that you will never have a comparable experience for I suggest you toughen up that skin and give the keyboard war a rest for a bit.

 

[DisneyJamieCA]

It sounds like y'all are jealous of New York Maybe take a breather.

This is where you lose people though. This kind of arrogance. You spend all day dumping on FL and praising NY like NY didn’t also have a really rough time. And do not come at me with FL has had more time, etc. They know that. Also know that many Floridians are just as horrified as you are at what’s going on there. They don’t make the rules so they are stuck. There are two posters here who seem to find great joy it posting FL’s daily numbers on EVERY SINGLE Covid thread EVERY SINGLE day. Maybe it’s meant to be informative, but it comes across as gloating. I don’t even live in FL and it’s gotten old.

I don’t agree with the poster who brought up the gun violence, but believe me it’s not jealousy. It’s a direct result of attitudes like this.

 

[Hikergirl]

It's not really a competition, a state that has had the highest deaths in the nation and is now down to 0 (at least for one day) is something we all should be happy about. It shows it can be done.
This tit for tat my state is better than yours is childish.

 

[Searc]

In my relatively short life as a born and bred New Yorker we’ve lived through 9/11, the 2008 economic crisis, Sandy, and now this - unless you’re from here you have NO idea how tough, resilient, compassionate, brave, and neighborly you actually have to be every day, as you will never have to face, endure, or experience what we have. And I wouldn’t trade it for anything. So if you have a problem with how New York City has managed to get the virus under control while also addressing the civil unrest, economic turmoil, and looming civic decisions about schools and work that you will never have a comparable experience for I suggest you toughen up that skin and give the keyboard war a rest for a bit.

I am happy NY has managed to get this public health crisis under control. Public officials deserve praise and recognition for that.

However, let's not pretend NY is the only place in the country that has had tragic and terrible things happen. We all know that isn't true. 9/11, the 2008 recession and Sandy were not confined to only NY.

 

[dclpluto]

We are not out of the woods in New York New Jersey area. This is like war. Covid is going to hit us hard again. We can celebrate for a little bit but the enemy will be back maybe stronger than ever. If we haven’t learned from our mistakes. Don’t let your guard down keep on social distancing and wear your masks. We lost a lot of good people. The battle might be over but the war is not over.

 

[snowwhite84]

We are not out of the woods in New York New Jersey area. This is like war. Covid is going to hit us hard again. We can celebrate for a little bit but the enemy will be back maybe stronger than ever. If we haven’t learned from our mistakes. Don’t let your guard down keep on social distancing and wear your masks. We lost a lot of good people. The battle might be over but the war is not over.

I agree. If we believe the scientists, we will likely get a second wave.

 

[robinb]

Seems like people are just bringing it up because New York has largely gotten rid of COVID and your states haven't.

It is a red herring in this conversation for sure.

 

[Heigh-Ho]

In my relatively short life as a born and bred New Yorker we’ve lived through 9/11, the 2008 economic crisis, Sandy, and now this - unless you’re from here you have NO idea how tough, resilient, compassionate, brave, and neighborly you actually have to be every day, as you will never have to face, endure, or experience what we have. And I wouldn’t trade it for anything. So if you have a problem with how New York City has managed to get the virus under control while also addressing the civil unrest, economic turmoil, and looming civic decisions about schools and work that you will never have a comparable experience for I suggest you toughen up that skin and give the keyboard war a rest for a bit.

Like someone else said this is also where you lose people.

9/11 may have last scars on NYC area in particular but there were people from all over in that area that day. They lived through it too. Not to mention the airplanes. Our entire way of life was changed that day.

The Great Recession impacted all sorts of places some worse than others. Some states were really just starting to be considered financially stable and then this whole virus hit. It affected people globally.

Hurricane Sandy didn't just hit NYC area. It impacted multiple states including the Carolinas and outside of the U.S. the Caribbean.

Finally New York is not just the NYC area.

It doesn't come across as very compassionate or neighborly to act insular in this way and people pick up on this attitude that makes it way through. You have no idea how other people have been tough, resilient, compassionate, brave and neighborly in light of those topics you mentioned or towards this virus either but people can and I don't mean this harshly I really don't, come across as if they don't care all that much either. That's what I mean by insular.

We need to be thankful that the New York area including CT and NJ have been able to make huge and I do mean huge strides towards this. It's just this isn't over yet. Let's raise each other up and show our appreciation for everyone who is collectively working on doing the best we can to combat this.

No one should be bringing left field topics in order to overshadow accomplishments the tri-state area has made, that I completely agree there and no arguments on that front.

 

[Heigh-Ho]

I agree. If we believe the scientists, we will likely get a second wave.

I've heard this too. As the summer is starting to wind down I'm getting more concerned more because I think we'll be better prepared but I'm anxious to know if what we are doing now is going to have a big enough impact when flu season really starts to mix in with this virus more than it did in late winter/early spring.

 

[Heigh-Ho]

Back onto the whole quarantine thing I know it must be frustrating to feel like you can't travel but it seems like it's better if most of us stay closer to our home areas. That may not be the same state depending on where you live in your state but these quarantines should help make that bubble of possible effects of travel may just ever so slightly smaller than if you were hopping all over the U.S.

I get the feeling the person who started this thread is having. I'd like to go places, and there are a few low-ish (in relation to other areas) right around me I can take more day trips or weekend trips but aside from that there aren't too many places one can travel to. I think the most I've seen from people around me is going to the parks and road trips centered around that instead of what they were originally planning. There's still a risk in doing that no doubt.

 

[roomthreeseventeen]

If we get a second wave, Cuomo will come down here and deal with us, lol

 

[DisneyJamieCA]

In my relatively short life as a born and bred New Yorker we’ve lived through 9/11, the 2008 economic crisis, Sandy, and now this - unless you’re from here you have NO idea how tough, resilient, compassionate, brave, and neighborly you actually have to be every day, as you will never have to face, endure, or experience what we have. And I wouldn’t trade it for anything. So if you have a problem with how New York City has managed to get the virus under control while also addressing the civil unrest, economic turmoil, and looming civic decisions about schools and work that you will never have a comparable experience for I suggest you toughen up that skin and give the keyboard war a rest for a bit.

That could be true of anywhere with all sorts of certain life events. That is not exclusive to NY. Yes, you got the absolute worst of 9/11, but that affected the entire country. The recession was certainly not exclusive to NY in any sense. Nor has civil unrest. I don’t even know how you can think that. And while I understand only being able to see what NY was doing during the your peak of the virus, everybody was going though the same things. Those same fears and worries. About jobs and school and family. And now some of us are going through it again as things get re-closed. What makes you believe that only NYers lived that? The rest of the country was dealing with all of these same things at the same time. It’s dismissive to say we’d never understand. We lived it too!

And not meant as a tit for tat, but my area has also lived through 3 years of devastating wildfires that destroyed entire communities. Our fire season has started early this year and we’re dealing with that on top of the virus. Our community has come together in a way I couldn’t believe over the last three years, so that is not exclusive to your area. But that doesn’t mean we’ve had it harder in a way nobody else will understand.

 

[roomthreeseventeen]

That could be true of anywhere with all sorts of certain life events. That is not exclusive to NY. Yes, you got the absolute worst of 9/11, but that affected the entire country. The recession was certainly not exclusive to NY in any sense. I don’t Nor has civil unrest. I don’t even know how you can think that. And while I understand only being able to see what NY was doing during the your peak of the virus, everybody was going though the same things. Those same fears and worries. About jobs and school and family. And now some of us are going through it again as things get re-closed. What makes you believe that only NYers lived that? The rest of the country was dealing with all of these same things at the same time. It’s dismissive to say we’d never understand. We lived it too!

And not meant as a tit for tat, but my area has also lived through 3 years of devastating wildfires that destroyed entire communities. Our fire season has started early this year and we’re dealing with that on top of the virus. Our community has come together in a way I couldn’t believe over the last three years, so that is not exclusive to your area. But that doesn’t mean we’ve had it harder in a way nobody else will understand.

Again, unless you live in New York, you have no idea what 9/11 was about.

 

[Disney Deb]

Yes, NYC did have alot of cases due to the density of the population But don't forget about the governor sending the elderly, who had COVID back into nursing homes/assisted livings (where the most vulnerable are) and many cases/deaths resulted by that horrible move. This was after the governor asked the federal government for the military ship/hospital that barely any patients ever used! Terrible.

The Gov took full responsibility for his move regarding the nursing homes. Without federal guidance OR responsibility mistakes were made. But as NY learned from their mistakes adjustments were made. NY numbers are good...for now. Now we will suffer again because of 30+ states not following our lead and denying reality and science. I am so disgusted with deniers compromising public health.

 

[handinpocket]

Again, unless you live in New York, you have no idea what 9/11 was about.

You lose everyone with your arrogance. New Yorkers didn't own 9/11 or its repercussions.

 

[DisneyJamieCA]

Again, unless you live in New York, you have no idea what 9/11 was about.

Untrue because you have no idea what MY experiences were with it. Or how it affected my life. And not just the aftermath, but the actual event. But keep believing what you want.

Apparently everything is a competition for you and that's just a sad way to live life.