Coming from NY. This is horrible

:rotfl: That actually makes the poster and the fact that it was made and for sale even worse IMO.
Governor Cuomo making a poster all about him. Not surprising in the least, and I'm sure there will be plenty of people who will buy it and display it to show their undying devotion to their great leader.
The rest of us NYers will just laugh at it.

As I said, NYers always have opinions one way or another. :) :upsidedow :thumbsup2 (Although, I'm sure that's not a uniquely NY thing.)
 
UPDATE: The NY/NJ/CT Travel Advisory thread is at:

https://www.disboards.com/threads/ny-nj-ct-travel-advisory


I'm going to be starting a separate thread for these NY/NJ/CT travel advisories, and keep it up to date in the first post, here:

https://www.disboards.com/threads/ny-nj-ct-travel-advisory

as there are nuances between the states, even though it is a "joint advisory" and they change all the time. NJ Gov. said this morning that his state is doing things slightly different than NY. (And there are three threads already, with varying bits of info, from different times posted.) I can update the OP as info updates, to help people find the latest info easier.

In the meantime, New York, New Jersey, & Connecticut's travel advisory has been expanded to 22 states.

If you're traveling to NY/NJ/CT from the following states you must self-quarantine for 14 days: The states are: AL, AR, AZ, CA, FL, GA, IA, ID, KS, LA, MN, MS, NC, NM, NV, OH, OK, SC, TN, TX, UT, WI.

There was nothing personal in choosing the states.
The criteria is that these states have unfortunately a high infection rate of at least: 10 new COVID positive cases per 100,000 people on a 7-day rolling average. OR: at least 10% of the total population is COVID-19 positive on a 7-Day rolling average.
 
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What if you live in NJ and are just driving through one of those states?
 

I wish that the "like" button had an eye-rolling option. Certain posts from a certain poster really need that. The closest I can find is "wow" and it's really not the same.

You can reply back with the eyeroll, or most people use the laughing image when they are triggered by a post.
 
Don't disagree on FL. But PLEASE stop acting like NY did nothing wrong and is just an innocent victim who had no notice in this. That is simply not true. When other states were shutting down, New Yorkers were encouraged to go out and enjoy life. Newsom became a joke for his "overreaction" which indeed ended up being the right call. (CA has had many missteps since then). Covid positive patients WERE sent back to LTC facilities. While it was going to spread there, NY has to take some responsibility for their numbers there.

"New Yorkers were encouraged to go out and enjoy life"? That isn't true at all, I'm from NY, not true at all. Newsom may have done a little bitter initially than NY but is doing MUCH WORSE NOW and NY has gotten it under control. At least for now and I hope we don't see a second spike. It did take a little bit of time to do all they needed to do, needed to be faster but no one was encouraged to go out in NY at all. But seeing we were the worst, and now we are doing so much better is very encouraging.
 
"New Yorkers were encouraged to go out and enjoy life"? That isn't true at all, I'm from NY, not true at all. Newsom may have done a little bitter initially than NY but is doing MUCH WORSE NOW and NY has gotten it under control. At least for now and I hope we don't see a second spike. It did take a little bit of time to do all they needed to do, needed to be faster but no one was encouraged to go out in NY at all. But seeing we were the worst, and now we are doing so much better is very encouraging.
It's completely true! Bill de Blasio, Mayor of NYC, DID tell people that "if you're not sick, you should should be going about your life." And did encourage people to continue to eat out in restaurants. Those statements were made the same time Newsom shut down California. And I'm sorry California did more than a "little" better than NY when you compare all numbers and population sizes.

Again, it's not a race to be won. And no, it's way too early to say NY is doing better than anybody else, since the state continues to hold the highest number of cases and by FAR the highest number of deaths. NY has done a remarkable job on getting the virus under control from where it once was and that should be applauded. And as I've said multiple times, I hope it stays that way. But NOBODY can claim victory right now.
 
It's completely true! Bill de Blasio, Mayor of NYC, DID tell people that "if you're not sick, you should should be going about your life." And did encourage people to continue to eat out in restaurants. Those statements were made the same time Newsom shut down California. And I'm sorry California did more than a "little" better than NY when you compare all numbers and population sizes.

Again, it's not a race to be won. And no, it's way too early to say NY is doing better than anybody else, since the state continues to hold the highest number of cases and by FAR the highest number of deaths. NY has done a remarkable job on getting the virus under control from where it once was and that should be applauded. And as I've said multiple times, I hope it stays that way. But NOBODY can claim victory right now.

I lived in the worst hit area of NY, don't tell me how NY responded. That is not what you wrote, you stated that they were telling people go out for a long time that is not true at all, not at all. I live here. You do not I see what happened in NY. Yes the whole country should have responded faster but you cannot compare NYers when we live in such close contact with one another, that NYers did such a terrible job. NY has quarantine measures from 22 other states and all FL is doing is quarantining NYers and NJers the ones that have gone down for political reasons mainly. Also there were certain groups of people that were spreading it, religious groups, I am sorry it is true here and sadly took longer time to deal with. Do I think they could have done better and faster, yes absolutely, but you trying to put this on Ny as the worst people or the ones that did not take it serious, or compare to what FL or states like TX where I have family is doing is baloney, not true. Newsom initially did well bc he had a quick response, and I give him that we should learn from, but now his state is bad again.
 
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I lived in the worst hit area of NY, don't tell me how NY responded. That is not what you wrote, you stated that they were telling people go out for a long time that is not true at all, not at all. I live here. You do not I see what happened in NY. Yes the whole country should have responded faster but you cannot compare NYers when we live in such close contact with one another, that NYers did such a terrible job. NY has quarantine measures from 22 other states and all FL is doing is quarantining NYers and NJers the ones that have gone down for political reasons mainly. Also there were certain groups of people that were spreading it, religious groups, I am sorry it is true here and sadly took longer time to deal with. Do I think they could have done better and faster, yes absolutely, but you trying to put this on Ny as the worst people or the ones that did not take it serious, or compare to what FL or states like TX where I have family is doing is baloney, not true. Newsom initially did well bc he had a quick response, and I give him that we should learn from, but now his state is bad again.
If you're going to put words in my mouth, make sure to get them correct. I NEVER said for a long time. But that fact remains that what I said was true and did actually happen.

And I will hold whatever opinions I want of how NY handled it. And their attitude now. And if you kept up on this thread, or any of them, I have clearly said I don't agree with how AZ, TX or FL are handling things now, so stop using them as your examples when I NEVER brought them up. I have never put anything on NY. I just said that it's premature for NY to declare themselves the winner (which honestly is a stupid goal to have in a pandemic) when the numbers currently show otherwise. Maybe in the end, NY will show numbers that they did better than everybody else and then you can gloat. But honestly it's a bad look.

And if I don't get to have an opinion on how NY did it, you certainly don't get to have one on how CA is doing it now. After all, I live here and you don't. Isn't that you're reasoning?
 
If you're going to put words in my mouth, make sure to get them correct. I NEVER said for a long time. But that fact remains that what I said was true and did actually happen.

And I will hold whatever opinions I want of how NY handled it. And their attitude now. And if you kept up on this thread, or any of them, I have clearly said I don't agree with how AZ, TX or FL are handling things now, so stop using them as your examples when I NEVER brought them up. I have never put anything on NY. I just said that it's premature for NY to declare themselves the winner (which honestly is a stupid goal to have in a pandemic) when the numbers currently show otherwise. Maybe in the end, NY will show numbers that they did better than everybody else and then you can gloat. But honestly it's a bad look.

And if I don't get to have an opinion on how NY did it, you certainly don't get to have one on how CA is doing it now. After all, I live here and you don't. Isn't that you're reasoning?

Not the poster you are trying to have a pissing match with, but I don't understand why you are comparing a mayor to a governor. NY is far more than just NYC. Anyway, maybe I just interpret things differently, but I don't see gloating. I see New Yorkers, and those of us in NJ and other hard-hit states who did the right thing and stayed home, and are now wearing masks and socially distancing, frustrated that the horrific lessons we learned are being ignored by others around the country.
 
If you're going to put words in my mouth, make sure to get them correct. I NEVER said for a long time. But that fact remains that what I said was true and did actually happen.

And I will hold whatever opinions I want of how NY handled it. And their attitude now. And if you kept up on this thread, or any of them, I have clearly said I don't agree with how AZ, TX or FL are handling things now, so stop using them as your examples when I NEVER brought them up. I have never put anything on NY. I just said that it's premature for NY to declare themselves the winner (which honestly is a stupid goal to have in a pandemic) when the numbers currently show otherwise. Maybe in the end, NY will show numbers that they did better than everybody else and then you can gloat. But honestly it's a bad look.

And if I don't get to have an opinion on how NY did it, you certainly don't get to have one on how CA is doing it now. After all, I live here and you don't. Isn't that you're reasoning?
Can we please all just get along? You can disagree, but for gods sake just be nice people.
 
Not the poster you are trying to have a pissing match with, but I don't understand why you are comparing a mayor to a governor. NY is far more than just NYC. Anyway, maybe I just interpret things differently, but I don't see gloating. I see New Yorkers, and those of us in NJ and other hard-hit states who did the right thing and stayed home, and are now wearing masks and socially distancing, frustrated that the horrific lessons we learned are being ignored by others around the country.

I'm in NJ and there are MANY people who are not wearing masks and NOT social distancing - northern NJ and the shore -- all over, really. In the beginning they told us most everyone will get it and the purpose for the lock down was to slow it down. Now everyone thinks no one should be getting it. Like a cold virus or the flu it is going to spread. The idea was to try to slow it down if possible.

Anyone gloating and pretending that they had any control over the spread, esp when their numbers are way above and beyond the rest of the country.... it's just a really dumb thing to do. Not saying anyone here is doing that but I see it on Facebook and cringe.
 
What if you live in NJ and are just driving through one of those states?
Thats a good point. Say you drive to a destination in Michigan or Indiana, you'd have to go through and spend many hours in Ohio. You probably would have to get out of the car for gas somewhere in Ohio too--both ways. I live in MA and we have a quarantine rule for travel from basically every state except NH, ME, VT, CT, NY, and NJ. I just spent a week in NC in a beach house. I went to the grocery store twice. Other than that stayed put. I'm currently quarantining for 14 days. I'm not sure how much legal authority states really have in mandating anyone quarantine. I know they are talking about fines, but I'm curious about the reality of it.
 
Thats a good point. Say you drive to a destination in Michigan or Indiana, you'd have to go through and spend many hours in Ohio. You probably would have to get out of the car for gas somewhere in Ohio too--both ways. I live in MA and we have a quarantine rule for travel from basically every state except NH, ME, VT, CT, NY, and NJ. I just spent a week in NC in a beach house. I went to the grocery store twice. Other than that stayed put. I'm currently quarantining for 14 days. I'm not sure how much legal authority states really have in mandating anyone quarantine. I know they are talking about fines, but I'm curious about the reality of it.

Much easier to track people if they flew than if they drove. However, say you took a flight from NJ to MI, then on a separate ticket a flight from MI to FL. NOT suggesting it just saying I don't think they can cover everyone with this rule.

I wonder if they will just say anyone coming back into the state whether by airplane or car has to have a covid tracker assigned. They could put up roadblocks on the interstates. Don't laugh - look what is going on now with mask mandates and the millions being spent on covid trackers. They aren't fooling around.
 
I'm in NJ and there are MANY people who are not wearing masks and NOT social distancing - northern NJ and the shore -- all over, really. In the beginning they told us most everyone will get it and the purpose for the lock down was to slow it down. Now everyone thinks no one should be getting it. Like a cold virus or the flu it is going to spread. The idea was to try to slow it down if possible.

Anyone gloating and pretending that they had any control over the spread, esp when their numbers are way above and beyond the rest of the country.... it's just a really dumb thing to do. Not saying anyone here is doing that but I see it on Facebook and cringe.

I'm in south Jersey where masks wearing sounds like it's better than at the shore or up north. But masks aren't what brought the numbers down initially - it was the stay at home order. Now that we're slowly opening back up, we're hoping things will go well by relying on a slow open, masks, and social distancing. I'm definitely not seeing gloating anywhere, but obviously we have very different folks on our FB feeds.

I'm really worried about what opening schools will do to the numbers, here and elsewhere. Both of our kids' colleges are planning on live classes, and my school district will definitely not be fully online.
 
It's completely true! Bill de Blasio, Mayor of NYC, DID tell people that "if you're not sick, you should should be going about your life." And did encourage people to continue to eat out in restaurants. Those statements were made the same time Newsom shut down California. And I'm sorry California did more than a "little" better than NY when you compare all numbers and population sizes.

While the total population of NY state is 19.1 million people. Approximately only 3% of the cases and deaths happened in upstate NY -which has a geography of population similar to CA. I know, as I lived in L.A. for a few years, traveling back & forth to San Diego, Ventura County, & San Francisco.

Meanwhile 97% of the cases and deaths in the beginning happened in the people in NYC & L.I. due to the dense concentration of the population in about a 70 mile radius. In the beginning, back in March & April, NYS, as well as the U.S., didn't have knowledge of what can stop COVID from spreading.

In the beginning, this is a typical day at rush hour in NYC:

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Inside a subway train or bus for an average of 15 min to an hour. Where it says "alamy" think of the COVID virus floating around instead.
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NOW: we know that being densely packed next to someone for more than 15 minutes and in an indoor environment with the ventilation system pushing COVID around meant NYC never stood a chance.
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It caused the virus to spread like a wildfire through dry grass.

Since the whole state was given the same info and state-wide mandates, if the density of environment wasn't such a strong factor, the rest of the state would have had the same percentage in numbers of cases and deaths. The only times the state split and did something different is when we reopened in different Phases.

We also didn't know until Mid April that the CDC, WHO and Dr Fauci recommended wearing face masks, which would have saved so many people, in close proximity, who can't maintain social distancing.

On April 15th, the NY Mask Mandate went into effect. It was the first mask mandate in the U.S. We had just past the apex and were on the way down. However, like 40 other states, we could have gone up again, BUT WE DIDN'T AND HAVEN'T:




As for DeBlasio making that statement. I remember that time accurately. This whole event is seared into my memory as only someone with PTSD has. It was at the beginning, when we only had a few confirmed cases. The CDC demanded to do ALL the testing throughout all the U.S. Even when NYS said it wanted to set up it's own testing program, the CDC demanded that it be the ONLY and OFFICIAL testing program. So, NY as well as all other states had to send their tests to the CDC. They said they were on top of things, and that there would be Contact Tracing, so we would know where all the cases are. So NYS and NYC thought the virus was contained here. I remember succinctly, as I was going to a Celine Dion concert on Mar 5, (Day 5) and we were all hoping it wouldn't be canceled. I even posted here about going and pics of a full audience.

But, then the CDC could only send back 8-10 tests back - and after a 5 day lag for each batch. Meanwhile we were getting more suspected cases, that the state & city told to quarantine.

It wasn't until about Day 8, that the CDC finally ADMITTED that they only did 8 tests THE WHOLE DAY, not per state, not per batch, the WHOLE DAY, and that they do not have the manpower or budget or a Pandemic Response Team to help them, that NYC realized we were in dire trouble. Thank God, NYS had started it's own testing program. But, the CDC debacle put us way behind getting control of the pandemic here. Within 3 weeks we had 20,000 cases here in NYC, not the rest of the state. And our hospital system, within that 45 mile radius, of about 62 hospitals were overwhelmed with more cases than they could imagine.

We also didn't have the medical procedures NYS back in March and April that we have now: The procedure of proning, that has saved so many patients from ever being put on a ventilator. The use of the 4 drugs: Remdesivir, Dexamethasone (steroids,) Convalescent Plasma, and Cytokine Inhibitors. There are other procedures not listed. One of them is NOT hydroxychloroquine.
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I'm tired of other states telling us they had it bad. Or how they handled it so much better. This is the actual numbers on Mar 23. Three weeks after we got our first case. Every. other. state. on this list had between 600-1800 cases spread out over your WHOLE state. (I'm not counting NJ. as they got infected from traveling back & forth between NY & NJ.) WE had over 20,000 in 3 weeks in a 45 mile radius. You had 18,000 LESS.

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ENOUGH of you criticizing us. We had approximately 216,468 cases in NYC alone, and brought our numbers down to about 5-10 deaths per day throughout the state. NYC had zero deaths this weekend. And someone tried to take that away from us yesterday. :rolleyes:

The only time that a state has been similar is AZ, last week, where they got 20,000 new cases in 3 DAYS. TX too. And FL, yesterday, which had a one day total number of cases is greater than NYS' one day total ever. And YES. I pray for those people, going though what we did. It's actually worse.

There is a lot of schadenfreude waiting to happen by many posters here. As much as you SAY you hope NY doesn't spike, you will darn well relish when it happens. It's all over some of your posts. Veiled, but it's there.

If you think WE NYer's aren't afraid of a spike happening, that just shows how clueless you are to how we know how tenuous we have it. AND WHILE we have it, we ARE going to celebrate it. Because we've lost too many NYers who don't have tomorrow.
 
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