College parents...fall semester?

When my son was a freshman, move in day for first year students was a living nightmare. I was so glad when the next 2 years moving in was so much less hectic. Now for his last year I’m afraid it may be crazy again. The proposals I’m seeing are that freshmen will move in one day and upper class men the next.
 
anyone whose kid is going to live on campus this upcoming term-any news on drastic changes to the move in process? asking b/c one of our big universities is making a point of getting students/parents aware that they MUST keep an eye out for updates on how the move-in process will occur b/c apparently it will in no way resemble prior years and will take place over a longer period of time.

I haven’t heard, but have been keeping an eye out as well.
 
When my son was a freshman, move in day for first year students was a living nightmare. I was so glad when the next 2 years moving in was so much less hectic. Now for his last year I’m afraid it may be crazy again. The proposals I’m seeing are that freshmen will move in one day and upper class men the next.

My daughters college that are moving in over 15 days instead of the typical 5 day period to really spread it out- mine has an off campus apartment so she can head back whenever she wants to. I would be so sad if she was a freshman this year since they are not allowing parents up into the dorm to help set up at all. One parent can come in the car to drop off but they load the stuff into bins and wheel it to the room for them, parent not allowed up.
 
My daughters college that are moving in over 15 days instead of the typical 5 day period to really spread it out- mine has an off campus apartment so she can head back whenever she wants to. I would be so sad if she was a freshman this year since they are not allowing parents up into the dorm to help set up at all. One parent can come in the car to drop off but they load the stuff into bins and wheel it to the room for them, parent not allowed up.
We don’t have those details yet. I went back and looked, and move in day for freshman is a Friday. Returning students can start Saturday. That means they have Sunday as well. So maybe not so bad. In the past crowds were pretty light when we helped him move in except for that freshman year.
 

Question: If they're saying up front that the on-campus portion of the semester ends at Thanksgiving, have they pro-rated the dorm and meal plan costs? I mean, a college semester is 14 weeks -- if it's now 12 weeks on campus, the dorm and meal plan should cost less.

I haven't seen anything to that effect from DD's school. If anything, dorms will be more expensive for a lot of students who would normally have chosen the cheaper triple or quad rooms that are now being reduced to (more expensive) doubles for the sake of better distancing. But they have said they'll be updating information about campus dining and meal plans, and I do expect some changes there because they use a declining-balance system and with fewer options (both in terms of locations and menus), as well as two fewer weeks of dorm living, the standard amount will likely be overkill for a lot of students.

I'm glad DD got an RA position for the upcoming year so we don't have to think about whether we're getting fair value for her dorm and meal plan.

What are people's thoughts on Gap years? My thinking is that any students that take a gap year will be competing for spots with next year's students. And what happens if this online stuff goes on for another year? Will they take 2 gap years? At what point will htey have found jobs or life changes that just stop them from going to university at all? Am I out to lunch on this subject?

I think this is actually the worst possible time for a gap year. Employment and travel experiences will both be greatly restricted because of the pandemic, so there's likely to be little in the way of productive ways for young people to spend the time. I personally think too much free time is a bad thing for most people, especially young people, so I wouldn't encourage a year off now.

Taking the first year at community college might make sense for many, especially if they're paying for college out of pocket and can enroll in a community college with a strong transfer agreement. And for students with significant financial aid, toughing it out might be the best way to go because some or all of the aid package might be lost if they defer enrollment to take a gap year or a year of commuting and coming in as a transfer. But taking a year off to do nothing in particular, in a time of high unemployment and restricted movement, just seems like a very bad idea for typical teens.

anyone whose kid is going to live on campus this upcoming term-any news on drastic changes to the move in process? asking b/c one of our big universities is making a point of getting students/parents aware that they MUST keep an eye out for updates on how the move-in process will occur b/c apparently it will in no way resemble prior years and will take place over a longer period of time.

DD has been told to block out three days for freshman move-in, because she's an RA in a freshman living-learning community, so it does sound like they're spreading it out. That's a big improvement over last year, IMO, when freshman move-in was all done in one day. The campus has so little parking that no undergrads are allowed cars on campus, and even with time blocks based on last initial, 1500 students moving in over one day was a real mess in terms of tight time limits (20 min) on parking to unload, lines stretching blocks to get into the unloading lot, long waits for carts to haul things upstairs, etc.

I assume they're also going to spread out returning student move-in, but that was more of a "window" to begin with because of the lack of orientation activities. Last year, I think there was a period of three or four days for returning students. Only freshmen and transfers had a single move-in day.
 
I think this is actually the worst possible time for a gap year. Employment and travel experiences will both be greatly restricted because of the pandemic, so there's likely to be little in the way of productive ways for young people to spend the time. I personally think too much free time is a bad thing for most people, especially young people, so I wouldn't encourage a year off now.

Taking the first year at community college might make sense for many, especially if they're paying for college out of pocket and can enroll in a community college with a strong transfer agreement. And for students with significant financial aid, toughing it out might be the best way to go because some or all of the aid package might be lost if they defer enrollment to take a gap year or a year of commuting and coming in as a transfer. But taking a year off to do nothing in particular, in a time of high unemployment and restricted movement, just seems like a very bad idea for typical teens.
I think you raise some great points.
I would like to suggest though, that there is one group of students that might benefit from a gap year. And that is students with any interest in social work or nursing or any medical field -- if they can get CNA license and a CNA job as their gap year activity.
Now, I really don't know if there will be a lot of CNA jobs out there available for young people with no experience. Maybe someone else could provide info on the chances of them getting work this upcoming year. But if they can, I think this provides a fantastic opportunity.
Otherwise, if a business oriented student is able to find work in a delivery warehouse, or a tech-minded or teacher-track student in helping with remote learning, that's another idea.
But ... again, I don't know how the employment situation is in these areas.
 
Mizzou quietly started changing a bunch of classes to online yesterday. First people were told it was a glitch, now they are being told it is part of a fluid situation. We're watching with baited breath. So far the 2 classes she cares about taking in person have not changed (they are fairly small classes). But who the heck knows how long that will be the case.

A lot of parents threatening to pull their kids and have them do online community college classes. I'm reading the University Families Facebook page, so a lot of the posters have incoming freshmen. Meanwhile (I'm sure no coincidence) I've been seeing more advertising around town for the community colleges.

My DD is in it for the long haul because of her scholarships so we'll see what that ends up looking like.
 
Well, we just got a big shock today that could change a lot of things.

DD was registered for 4 courses for the Fall term -- 3 in-person and one online. Her school (UCF) has made a big deal of how they were giving freshmen priority for in-person classes because of the whole "first year experience," "retention rates," etc, etc, etc.

So I checked DD's classes today and learned that ALL FOUR of them are now ONLINE. I have checked with UCF and have confirmed that it's not a mistake.

Thanks UCF, but that is a deal-breaker!
 
Well, we just got a big shock today that could change a lot of things.

DD was registered for 4 courses for the Fall term -- 3 in-person and one online. Her school (UCF) has made a big deal of how they were giving freshmen priority for in-person classes because of the whole "first year experience," "retention rates," etc, etc, etc.

So I checked DD's classes today and learned that ALL FOUR of them are now ONLINE. I have checked with UCF and have confirmed that it's not a mistake.

Thanks UCF, but that is a deal-breaker!

What do you want to happen?

Everything with this virus has been fluid day by day.

Cases are rising in Florida and around the South.

It could change again.
 
We've also started getting notifications that classes that had been scheduled in person are going to be online after all. Just one so far, but I expect there to be more. DD's bio prof is planning online lectures with in person meetings only for lab exercises, since the class doesn't have a separate lab. And her lab for organic chem, which is usually taken concurrently with the fall semester of the two-semester o-chem sequence, was cancelled entirely and will be taken with the spring semester course instead. As of right now, she hasn't heard anything about her Japanese language class but the prof. for her Japanese culture class plans to be in person. The cap on that class was something like 15, though, so it will probably be her smallest class which makes in-person sessions more viable than in the 50-student bio class.
 
What do you want to happen?

Everything with this virus has been fluid day by day.

Cases are rising in Florida and around the South.

It could change again.
I fully understand the situation.

But they could have notified us. That would have been a nice touch -- instead of discovering it by accident.

They were going to let it go until the deadline for canceling dorm contracts had passed a week from now.
 
So, what is everybody planning if the classes are almost all on-line? Keep their students home and do on-line? My DS just looked at his schedule and 4 out of 5 classes are on-line now. But most classes also have a "discussion" class that goes with the lectures, those still appear to be in person, but the room's are now pending.

Doesn't everybody wish they had a crystal ball? My DS's college is only two hours away and the college confirmed that if he tests positive, he would be advised to go home and quarantine, which means I will have to stay home and quarantine (and quite possible catch Covid from him) because my employer requires quarantine for everybody who lives in the house with someone who tests positive. Not sure about my DH's employer's policy. But he kept going to work through the whole thing, so I think his employer's policy is a bit more relaxed.
 
So, what is everybody planning if the classes are almost all on-line? Keep their students home and do on-line? My DS just looked at his schedule and 4 out of 5 classes are on-line now. But most classes also have a "discussion" class that goes with the lectures, those still appear to be in person, but the room's are now pending.

Doesn't everybody wish they had a crystal ball? My DS's college is only two hours away and the college confirmed that if he tests positive, he would be advised to go home and quarantine, which means I will have to stay home and quarantine (and quite possible catch Covid from him) because my employer requires quarantine for everybody who lives in the house with someone who tests positive. Not sure about my DH's employer's policy. But he kept going to work through the whole thing, so I think his employer's policy is a bit more relaxed.
Our DD is almost certainly staying home. I'm pretty sure it's impossible to "save" a reasonable schedule.

IMHO, there is absolutely no sense in a kid "going away" to college for a fraction of the normal class time...plus increased risk... plus very limited campus and social activities. What's the point?

We're basically right back where we were this time last year -- not sure where she is actually going to college.

We are stuck with the Fall semester because it's too late to change, but those credits will all be transferable within the Florida system. We'll evaluate the quality of instruction for this term and begin researching alternatives for the Spring and beyond.

UCF was originally her second choice of college...last year. We'll see how that holds up based on her actual experience, and how things shake out for other schools.
 
So, what is everybody planning if the classes are almost all on-line? Keep their students home and do on-line? My DS just looked at his schedule and 4 out of 5 classes are on-line now. But most classes also have a "discussion" class that goes with the lectures, those still appear to be in person, but the room's are now pending.

Doesn't everybody wish they had a crystal ball? My DS's college is only two hours away and the college confirmed that if he tests positive, he would be advised to go home and quarantine, which means I will have to stay home and quarantine (and quite possible catch Covid from him) because my employer requires quarantine for everybody who lives in the house with someone who tests positive. Not sure about my DH's employer's policy. But he kept going to work through the whole thing, so I think his employer's policy is a bit more relaxed.

Our son's going back. Looks like most of his courses will be 'Blended', which I think means he'll be in class part time and online part time. He has two courses that have lab portions, so those (we hope) will be in person. He'll have a car at campus this year, so worst case scenario, he can drive home quickly (4 1/2 hours away).
 
DD is paying rent already on an off campus apartment, so she'll be going even if it's all online. If she gets sick, we'll have to figure out if she stays at her apartment or comes home (2 hour drive). She has one roommate.

Cases are minimal where we live and where the college is. So I'm hopeful there will be some in-person classes.
 
DD's classes are supposed to be a blend of online and in-person. Apparently the plan is for certain classes to attend in person one week, online the next week. All of her classes are small as this is her final year. The tricky part is she's also supposed to complete field work this year, and do her student teaching next year. She's hoping that the field work she completed while in community college will be accepted because she still has all of her documentation ready. She's anxious to get graduated and be able to complete her student teaching -- and then hope schools aren't still on life support so she will get a job.

She has her own apartment which has been sitting locked up since March. If everything goes fully online she'll probably end up coming home at some point because she's not going to want to be in an apartment all alone day after day doing coursework. Right now a little bit of that might be tolerable after these months at home with all of us, but the all alone thing could get really old as well. Several of her friends are considering what they want to do.
 
DD's classes are supposed to be a blend of online and in-person. Apparently the plan is for certain classes to attend in person one week, online the next week. All of her classes are small as this is her final year. The tricky part is she's also supposed to complete field work this year, and do her student teaching next year. She's hoping that the field work she completed while in community college will be accepted because she still has all of her documentation ready. She's anxious to get graduated and be able to complete her student teaching -- and then hope schools aren't still on life support so she will get a job.

She has her own apartment which has been sitting locked up since March. If everything goes fully online she'll probably end up coming home at some point because she's not going to want to be in an apartment all alone day after day doing coursework. Right now a little bit of that might be tolerable after these months at home with all of us, but the all alone thing could get really old as well. Several of her friends are considering what they want to do.
Tell her to come to Kentucky. We are short on teachers.
 
There have been zero public details from dd's school but the Professor she is working with over the summer told her that they are preparing for online instruction. Her lease is up next month and due to cost she didnt want to stay in there if classes were going to be online only. Luckily she found a place that is half of what she's paying now and they are willing to do a 6 month lease since she only has one semester left. All the classes she has left require labs and we won't know anything until the school makes a decision. I hope this does not turn in to her needing to stay another semester.

No idea what is going on for ds's school either. He is supposed to return to campus a couple weeks early to finish the labs that were cancelled last semester. After that I don't know if he'll go to all online and then labs at a later date, or if they are going to allow students whose programs are 90% to lab remain on campus.

Both schools are in areas that are in Phase 4 of opening, both areas had minimal cases during the peak. I hope they both get to go back to on campus classes.
 
I just checked my daughter's UF schedule. All of her classes that had room assignments, have now been changed to online. She is an incoming freshman.
 
I just checked my daughter's UF schedule. All of her classes that had room assignments, have now been changed to online. She is an incoming freshman.
Go 'Gators! Oooops, sorry.

Seriously tho, that really stinks. What is the point of going to Gainesville to take online courses from a dorm room?
 





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