Clay Aiken scandal?

[shortbun]

Gossip about Clay Aiken, yes. Scandal, no. And I have to say this can't possibly surprise anyone.

Yeah, duh!

 

[Kristi1357]

If you don't bring a male to a work function or speak about men or have no pictures of a man on your desk, yes they speculate if you are gay or not, and then the discrimination begins and some people are so cruel as to make up false accusations to get you fired so they won't have someone you they think is gay in "their" work environment.

If you bring up the fact that you are gay/lesbian in the work environment and then talk about your partner is anyway, you are told that you are bringing your personal life into the workplace and that's a no no. Although it's okay for a straight person so say, "yeah, so me and my husband are going to Hawaii". No one thinks twice about that, but if you say, "yeah, so me and my partner are going to Hawaii", they tell you to keep it to yourself.

Either way, it's a lose/lose situation.

Dear SO and I have bumped into coworkers before and we may so, this is my friend. Sure it can get bothersome, but you do what you have to do. If you get caught holding hands in the movie theatre and a coworker happens to see that, all they will do is tell Sally, who will tell Bob to Susan to Mary and it will spread like a wild fire.

The secrecy can get annoying, but this world is not perfect and people can be very cruel. I think it's better to keep everything to yourself and deal with the depression within to let me people and risk getting fired from yet another job or be sexually harrassed by men in the workplace telling you to do it just once so you know what you are missing. You have to make a living somehow and if that means "staying in the closet" that's what has to be done.

My own family, mother, father, sister, aunts, uncles, grandparents, cousins EVERYONE disowned me the second they found out I was gay, and I haven't spoke to them since that day. I've tried but you know people like me are disgusting.

First off, lots of

I really thought "we" were more enlightened now! I know at my workplace, we have alot of gay employees who are very open about it - and no one cares! In fact, 3 people I know at work recently married their partners - full blown wedding ceremony & all (since it is now legal in MA). No one gossiped or said anything. Love is love, plain & simple.

 

[Disney Doll]

If you don't bring a male to a work function or speak about men or have no pictures of a man on your desk, yes they speculate if you are gay or not, and then the discrimination begins and some people are so cruel as to make up false accusations to get you fired so they won't have someone you they think is gay in "their" work environment.

If you bring up the fact that you are gay/lesbian in the work environment and then talk about your partner is anyway, you are told that you are bringing your personal life into the workplace and that's a no no. Although it's okay for a straight person so say, "yeah, so me and my husband are going to Hawaii". No one thinks twice about that, but if you say, "yeah, so me and my partner are going to Hawaii", they tell you to keep it to yourself.

Either way, it's a lose/lose situation.

Dear SO and I have bumped into coworkers before and we may so, this is my friend. Sure it can get bothersome, but you do what you have to do. If you get caught holding hands in the movie theatre and a coworker happens to see that, all they will do is tell Sally, who will tell Bob to Susan to Mary and it will spread like a wild fire.

The secrecy can get annoying, but this world is not perfect and people can be very cruel. I think it's better to keep everything to yourself and deal with the depression within to let me people and risk getting fired from yet another job or be sexually harrassed by men in the workplace telling you to do it just once so you know what you are missing. You have to make a living somehow and if that means "staying in the closet" that's what has to be done.

My own family, mother, father, sister, aunts, uncles, grandparents, cousins EVERYONE disowned me the second they found out I was gay, and I haven't spoke to them since that day. I've tried but you know people like me are disgusting.

All in all, in Clay is gay, I don't blame him for wanting to keep it to himself.

Look what happened to Ellen and Rosie. Look how many years it took Melissa Etheridge to come out. Think about the fact that actors and actresses are afraid to play homosexual roles. It's a shame but that's the way the cookie crumbles.

I guess I am sad for you that you work in such a backward place...and in the San Fran area no less, where there is a fairly significant gay population.

I am also sad that your famiy is intolerant. You seem like a great person, so they are missing out on a lot by not being involved with you.

I had a boss at a former job who didn't like me, not because of my sexual orientation, but because she felt I was a threat to her. We had a couple of go-arounds, I behaved in a professional manner and she finally hung herself (professionally, not actually hung herself).

As far as idiot men making rude comments...well, I have had that happen when they have found out I have been married for a number of years...you know...along the lines of "Well, how about trying something different? Maybe you'd like me better". No, maybe you're just a big idiot, which is pretty much what I say to them.

Hugs to you...I am sorry it is so difficult for you.

 

[Mari annie]

Behind closed doors
he's a grown man.



Sorry I have bigger things to think about......
WDW in 2 weeks, YIPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

The only think I like about Clay is:he has enough money to buy a 2nd home in WDW area!!!
LOL! what can I say?! I am not a fan.

 

[Michelina]

Frankly, it doesn't make a bit of difference to me if Clay Aiken is gay, straight, or likes to have sex with a chicken. The only people who should be concerned about his sexual preferences are the people with whom he is intimately involved.

That chicken should also be concerned.

 

[JudicialTyranny]

Why do people think that anyone cares who they have sex with?

My opinion is that it's none of my business, but don't make it my business.

Why do some homosexual people feel the need to "come out"? Why do some heterosexual people feel the need to "out" someone? As if this information is a huge deal or important in any way?

I can understand someone's need to "come out". But as for "outing" someone, I see that occurring often from the "militant" homosexuals, outing someone who has not publicly tried to make their sexuality an issue or even has tried to hide it, and that I don't get. If someone wants to keep their private life private or even a secret, that's their perogative.

 

[Bella the Ball 360]

clay rocks and i dont believe it

Clay rocks and I don't care!!

 

[merlib]

I frequent the Clayboard and the OFC. Both places say that Clay wasn't even in Raleigh -- he was in NYC. I think this is just a case of someone trying to get their "15 minutes of fame". I for one enjoy Clay's voice and have been to at least one of his concerts on every tour. I don't care what his preference is -- I like him for his voice!

Merlib
OKW '93

 

[Cindyluwho]

I can try to answer some of these questions. I am "out" on these boards, but not so much in real life.

Are you married? I ask this because if you are with friends or coworkers and say, oh my husband and I are going here, or someone sends you flowers you may say something like, oh isn't that sweet my husband sent me flowers, or if you work at a desk you may have a picture of you and your husband together.

If you are gay, you can't really say oh look how sweet, my partner sent me flower because any word you use is pretty much going to clue that person into the fact that you are gay, you catch them off guard and they don't know what hit them and have no clue on how to react. I couldn't have a picture of me and SO on a desk, what would they think?

For instance, if you are married and you are on your husbands health insurance, no big deal, you go to the hospital and you have no questions asked. I am on my partners insurance because she is my domestic partner and the people question me, how did you get on so and so's insurance, you know it's illegal to get insurance with your friend and then you have to go into this long drawn out story.

If you are invited to work functions and to bring your spouse and if you show up with your partner, would do you do? Go alone because you don't want them to know that you are gay at that function?

If you come out ahead of time to these people you wouldn't have to explain yourself later.

People aren't coming out to say hey I sleep with a woman. People are coming out to people they "care" about so they won't find out from someone else or just hear about it all of a sudden.

I probably didn't explain that very good.

Oh well.

I thought you explained it perfect!

 

[momof2inPA]

I think it's fine to not answer questions about one's sexuality. But to say you are hetero, when you are really gay, does harm to oneself. Can you imagine the pain of denying your real self to further your career? If he's gay, now's the time to admit it. People were starting to forget about him, anyway, and admitting it would probably help his next record's sales- free publicity. Now, Tom Cruise, is another story.

 

[JoeEpcotRocks]

I think it's fine to not answer questions about one's sexuality. But to say you are hetero, when you are really gay, does harm to oneself. Can you imagine the pain of denying your real self to further your career? If he's gay, now's the time to admit it. People were starting to forget about him, anyway, and admitting it would probably help his next record's sales- free publicity. Now, Tom Cruise, is another story.

The pain of denying your real self?? How about the adult maturity to be and to do what's right. If the rumors about Clay are true, I hope he gets good counseling and changes his gay lifestyle choice.

 

[damo]

The pain of denying your real self?? How about the adult maturity to be and to do what's right. If the rumors about Clay are true, I hope he gets good counseling and changes his gay lifestyle choice.

All I can say is, "wow".

 

[eclectics]

The pain of denying your real self?? How about the adult maturity to be and to do what's right. If the rumors about Clay are true, I hope he gets good counseling and changes his gay lifestyle choice.

As usual, more Same old song. Yawn......

 

[aprilgail2]

The pain of denying your real self?? How about the adult maturity to be and to do what's right. If the rumors about Clay are true, I hope he gets good counseling and changes his gay lifestyle choice.

Wow, I hope you get some help with all the hate in your heart....you must be a miserable human being.

 

[noseybuddy]

Wow, I hope you get some help with all the hate in your heart....you must be a miserable human being.

ITA..........

 

[lsyorke]

I think it's fine to not answer questions about one's sexuality. But to say you are hetero, when you are really gay, does harm to oneself. Can you imagine the pain of denying your real self to further your career? If he's gay, now's the time to admit it. People were starting to forget about him, anyway, and admitting it would probably help his next record's sales- free publicity. Now, Tom Cruise, is another story.

So what is your advice to him if he's not gay!!!

 

[scarlett873]

I think it's fine to not answer questions about one's sexuality. But to say you are hetero, when you are really gay, does harm to oneself. Can you imagine the pain of denying your real self to further your career? If he's gay, now's the time to admit it. People were starting to forget about him, anyway, and admitting it would probably help his next record's sales- free publicity. Now, Tom Cruise, is another story.

Wow...if this is all about the "free publicity"...where's the CD? What is it that he needs to promote? NOTHING...the man doesn't have to promote a single solitary thing. His fans are insanely loyal to him. He announces he's having a concert and his fans flock to the box office. His concerts are all nearly sold-out...every time...it makes no difference to his fans what his sexuality is.

So please, enlighten us...who's forgetting about him? And what is he promoting?

I adore the man's voice...I adore what he does for special needs children...I adore him. He's a truly gifted person...why do people insist on beating the man down?? If you don't like him...don't listen to him...ignore him...

Sorry...climbing down off of my soapbox now...

 

[Fantasmic303]

Yay Brandie!!!

BY THE WAY:

Head over to the official thread for some album news....

 

[lsyorke]

Yay Brandie!!!

BY THE WAY:

Head over to the official thread for some album news....

Woo Hooo!!!!!

 

[Planogirl]

The pain of denying your real self?? How about the adult maturity to be and to do what's right. If the rumors about Clay are true, I hope he gets good counseling and changes his gay lifestyle choice.

Eh, Joe does this regularly on the political threads. Pay him no mind.

I think that if Clay is gay and wants to come out then more power to him. Either way, he should be left alone IMO. It's his decision and if he's not gay all of this is pointless.