Christians suing for the right to be intolerant

[eclectics]

OK, Spongebob is a square American.

I vote Bikini Bottom for the 51st State!

 

[Planogirl]

OK, Spongebob is a square American.

Can an individual who lives at the bottom of the ocean be an American?

Actually, the term American is improper too from what I understand. The word really applies to everyone from the Americas doesn't it?

 

[MouseWorshipin]

I don't know if I would go that far. I don't think there's anything wrong with identifying with your ancestral heritage. It doesn't really do any harm and I also think kids should know about their roots.

My heritage is American, and I'm proud of it. I want no qualifications.

You wanna call yourself something else, great, have at it. Just don't go pinning it on me.

 

[MouseWorshipin]

Can an individual who lives at the bottom of the ocean be an American?

Actually, the term American is improper too from what I understand. The word really applies to everyone from the Americas doesn't it?

Yes. The Mexicans laugh at us a bit, I know. What are we gonna do? Start calling ourselves "United States of America People?"

 

[Planogirl]

Yes. The Mexicans laugh at us a bit, I know. What are we gonna do? Start calling ourselves "United States of America People?"

That is a problem. I wonder why the early founding fathers never came up with an actual name? Sure we have states and sure they're united and of course, we're a part of the Americas. So why did a description become our name?

 

[MouseWorshipin]

I vote Bikini Bottom for the 51st State!

I second! And I nominate Squidward for Governor!

 

[eclectics]

Actually, the term American is improper too from what I understand. The word really applies to everyone from the Americas doesn't it?

I guess technically it does, but every other Country in North and South America has a name without 'America' in it except us, so I suppose it makes sense for us to call ourselves Americans if we want to. No one else is using it!

 

[MouseWorshipin]

That is a problem. I wonder why the early founding fathers never came up with an actual name? Sure we have states and sure they're united and of course, we're a part of the Americas. So why did a description become our name?

Mexico is United, too. They are the United States of Mexico. So, we can't call ourselves "United Statesians," either.

This is going to be #3297 on my list of stuff to worry about.

 

[eclectics]

My heritage is American, and I'm proud of it. I want no qualifications.

You wanna call yourself something else, great, have at it. Just don't go pinning it on me.

No biggie, at least for me. I'm an American first and always will be, but I'm only second generation and I happen to identify quite a bit with my families roots. It doesn't bother me in the least if some want nothing to do with theirs.

 

[MouseWorshipin]

No biggie, at least for me. I'm an American first and always will be, but I'm only second generation and I happen to identify quite a bit with my families roots. It doesn't bother me in the least if some want nothing to do with theirs.

I'm not doing "nothing" with my roots. My roots happen to BE American!

Exactly how many generations of a family have to live in this country before you are full-fledged American, without some kind of tag on it?

 

[eclectics]

I'm not doing "nothing" with my roots. My roots happen to BE American!

Exactly how many generations of a family have to live in this country before you are full-fledged American, without some kind of tag on it?

Well, unless you are Native American, your ancestors came from a different country. We are still very young in comparison to the rest of the world. As I said, I am an American but my roots happen to be from another country. How many generations? I have no idea. Sounds like an interesting debate though. Sigh, another thread hijacked!

 

[MouseWorshipin]

Oh, my gosh, I'm sorry. That came off wrong. Don't read it with Debate Tone. Read it with Beaten-Down, For Pete's Sake, tone.

My people have been here a loooong time. I'm an American, and that's all there is to it for me.

Sorry.

 

[eclectics]

Oh, my gosh, I'm sorry. That came off wrong. Don't read it with Debate Tone. Read it with Beaten-Down, For Pete's Sake, tone.

My people have been here a loooong time. I'm an American, and that's all there is to it for me.

Sorry.

Okay. I still say it's an interesting topic for another day and another thread. Btw, I wonder if Mr. Krabs could be trusted as State Treasurer?

 

[ford family]

The Jamaicans are from Jamaica. The ones I know think we are stupid or rude to say they are from Africa.

One of the girls in my son's class was doing a report on Africa and said that most of the people who live in Africa are African-Americans!

And the Chinese and Japanese don't much like being lumped in together as Asian. They think we're just kind of dumb, and don't take offense. But they aren't crazy about it.

But they came to Jamaica from Africa, they were not indigenous to the Caribbean. It is obviously wrong to call them African Americans because they are Jamaican but their origins are not in doubt.
And the "Native Americans" originated in Asia, crossing over the land bridge about 15,000 years ago and populating the whole of North and South America in different waves.

ford family

 

[Disney Doll]

No, they really don't. It's more PC crap gone berserk.

In my book, we're ALL Americans squared. As opposed to square Americans. OK, Spongebob is a square American.

Is Spongebob really American though???

After all, he lives in a pineapple under the sea.

 

[chobie]

One of the girls in my son's class was doing a report on Africa and said that most of the people who live in Africa are African-Americans!

Well, if she was talking about Liberia that makes sense.

 

[Disney Doll]

That is a problem. I wonder why the early founding fathers never came up with an actual name? Sure we have states and sure they're united and of course, we're a part of the Americas. So why did a description become our name?

Because most folks from the rest of the Americas identify themselves as being "Mexican", "Costa Rican", "Canadian" etc. They are from the continent of North or South America, but their country also has a name.

Besides..."United Statesian" sounds stupid.

 

[chobie]

Is Spongebob really American though???

After all, he lives in a pineapple under the sea.

I don't know if Spongebob is American, but according to Dr. James Dobson he is gay.

 

[toto2]

You're entitled to your opinion, and if you feel you need it that's fine. That doesn't mean I can't believe it's ridiculous to 1) Identify myself exclusively through my sexual preference or 2) Have a week to celebrate whom I like having sex with. So it has nothing to do with whether I need it or not. AS I said earlier, gay people I work with and/or know socially think gay pride week is a joke as well. They HATE being identified as gay, because they want to be defined as a person not by their sexual orientation.

I let this one pass , I dont know why , so I answer it now: homosexual people started to use the word gay exactly because they wanted to take it away from the sex part. Obviously , we are not only defined by who we sleep with ! And I hope that people dont define me by my sex life. But being gay is more than just your sex life: when you are gay , you fall in love with somebody who is the same sex as you are , when you are gay , you are part of a minority that in some countries you can get killed ( two gay teenagers were killed in Iran last year). It is really my hope that some day , being gay is a non-issue , but it is not. Just the fact that we are having this discussion is proof. I will had that , in my experience , most gay people who think that Gay pride is stupid are the one who can pass as straight because they are not effeminate in anyway. The dont feel the discrimination that those who cant pass as straight. And as long as those invisible gays stay invisible , all the strereotypes will continue to exist. Why was Brokeback so scandalous for some ? Because it broke this stereotype. It was there for evryone to see : two gays who dont know Barbara streisand , who dont have that feminine voice who are not hairdresser !

 

[LukenDC]

I let this one pass , I dont know why , so I answer it now: homosexual people started to use the word gay exactly because they wanted to take it away from the sex part. Obviously , we are not only defined by who we sleep with ! And I hope that people dont define me by my sex life. But being gay is more than just your sex life: when you are gay , you fall in love with somebody who is the same sex as you are , when you are gay , you are part of a minority that in some countries you can get killed ( two gay teenagers were killed in Iran last year). It is really my hope that some day , being gay is a non-issue , but it is not. Just the fact that we are having this discussion is proof. I will had that , in my experience , most gay people who think that Gay pride is stupid are the one who can pass as straight because they are not effeminate in anyway. The dont feel the discrimination that those who cant pass as straight. And as long as those invisible gays stay invisible , all the strereotypes will continue to exist. Why was Brokeback so scandalous for some ? Because it broke this stereotype. It was there for evryone to see : two gays who dont know Barbara streisand , who dont have that feminine voice who are not hairdresser !

Well said, Toto. Sexuality is so much more than sex because it also pertains to our romantic choices and life partners. This is true of gay, straight, and bisexual people. While I acknowledge that my homosexuality is an important feature of who I am, it is far from being the defining feature and I would resent anyone who tried to define me exclusively by my sexual orientation.

If I continue to hang out on the DIS, Disney addiction might very well become an important part of my identity!