Chivalry is dead.

[darlak]

It is frustrating, but I long ago stopped letting it make me mad. It's just not worth it on my vacation. Rest assured though that if you get on a bus with my family, my husband and son will give up their seat for any female, and my daughters and I will give up our seats for any female who is older than one of us, holding a small child, or looks infirmed in any way. Also goes for an elderly gentleman, but they usually refuse the offer.

We often have fun with it too. When my daughters are already standing (near me usually) as people are still boarding the bus, they assess each female, and sometimes nudge me and say, "I don't know mom, I think she's even older than you!"

I've just learned to roll with it and take comfort in the knowledge that I'm raising my children to have same manners that my mother raised me to have and her mother raised her to have and so on and so on.

 

[Noobie]

It's not dead on the Shades of Green busses. And its not just a male/female thing. Everyone, young or old, is always offering to give up seats for people who appear they might need them. Its a refreshing change to see teenagers (male and female) being polite and nice on the bus. Quite a change form the public transportation sytems at home!

 

[PAcpl]

I think those who think people are giving you the evil eye have a guilty conscience.

You hit the nail on the head. Thats the only reason this topic gets heated, its over guilt.

You're in Disney World, not NYC fellas. Yes you have the same right everyone else has, but have some decency and respect for the women and children. Imagine it was your mother standing up, would you give up your seat for her? Wouldn't you expect someone else to do the same for her?

 

[ajk912]

As a woman I would be inwardly appalled if someone offered me a seat just because I am woman. That's nuts. As a mom with a child, I have enough balls to ask you if my teeny kid can squeeze in next to you. And I have done that before, and not once has anyone said no. My older kids are perfectly capable of standing. I think it's an entitlement thing..just because we got to the bus last does not entitle us to a seat. OTOH,seniors do get priorty and we would get up for a senior, or give the evil eye if I was a senior citizen and no one else got up.

 

[MapleGirl]

I don't think men should be expected to give up their seat to a woman or a person with a child. The "with a child" thing irks me. Parents need to take responsibility for having their kids on vacation and not expect special treatment. If you would prefer to sit, then like others have said... wait for the next bus. A child does not give you front of the line access, free license to cut in lines, or first choice of seats on a bus. (Not that anyone here would ever assume such a thing! )

Peace.

 

[MapleGirl]

I think it's an entitlement thing..just because we got to the bus last does not entitle us to a seat. OTOH,seniors do get priorty and we would get up for a senior, or give the evil eye if I was a senior citizen and no one else got up.

Yes!

 

[qcmommy]

I don't expect a male to give me seat, if I am holding my 4 year old that is sleeping it would be appreciated. I would also offer my seat to a father holding a sleeping child, these little people don't feel so little when they are knocked out.
Elderly, disabled and Pregnant comes first in my eyes and then parents with sleepers and everyone else after that can fend for themselves

 

[dburg30]

Hey, I thought women wanted to be treated equally?

I took out the 'just kidding' part this person had put in, because, to a point, I do feel this way. Seriously, everyone wants to be treated equally..... until... <fill in the blank>.

That being said, I have given up my spot a lot of times for 'more deserving' people. There also were some times that I got a seat and my feet and legs were hurting, and it would've taken an act of congress to get me to move. It could've been a bus full 'more deserving' people and I really didnt care at that point. I had waited in line like everyone else, I was in the point in line that I had a seat, and I took it..

So I wouldnt say it was dead, but I'm not going to give up my seat everytime either.

 

[Pecobill]

In my opinion unless you are a man in a wheel chair you should be giving up your seat. If you not in a wheel chair and you can manage to drag yourself around a theme park all day, you should have no problem standing for a few more minutes on the bus.

A woman shouldn't have a problem standing for a few more minutes either

 

[gemstone1952]

My sons and my daughter will always give up their seat and they do so quietly so as not to call attention to that fact. I'm very proud of them. For myself, I will not get on a bus unless I know I can get a seat. I have one of those "hidden" disabilities and I lose my balance easily when in a static position. I have waited for up to 40 minutes for a bus letting 2 busses go so I can be seated. I don't expect someone to give up their seat for me nor would I give someone the "evil eye if they didn't, but that's just me. I figure everyone has waited for the bus and just as I would not expect someone to let me go ahead of them in the lines for an attraction, I would not ask it of someone on a bus either. They have waited for the bus too. But, as I said, I am proud that my children take it upon themselves to offer their seats to adults. Sometimes, the adult will thank them and decline. On the other hand, when someone has a small child sleeping across several seats or is putting bags and other things on seats when people are standing, I do have a problem with it. When my children were small, they sat on my lap and my husbands lap or their siblings lap to make room for others. It's not chivalry, its humanity.

 

[darlak]

It's not dead on the Shades of Green busses. And its not just a male/female thing. Everyone, young or old, is always offering to give up seats for people who appear they might need them. Its a refreshing change to see teenagers (male and female) being polite and nice on the bus. Quite a change form the public transportation sytems at home!

Mu personal opinion is that may well have something to do with the fact that those busses transport military folks and their families.

 

[TCO]

I agree with some of the replies, I will happily give my seat up anytime for an eldery person, a pregnant woman or a male/female holding children.

However I see no reason why to give up a seat on the sole purpose it is a woman.

Obviously if there is only 1 seat I'll make sure my wife sits down instead of me.

By the way I have my popcorn ready for this thread in anticipation. I wonder if it will go down the line of people in wheelchairs or scooters turning up at the last minute and getting on the first bus.

 

[cascarlet]

I would also offer my seat to a father holding a sleeping child, these little people don't feel so little when they are knocked out.

AGREED!! I would do the same. When they are asleep I swear they weigh at least 10 more lbs!

 

[Noobie]

Mu personal opinion is that may well have something to do with the fact that those busses transport military folks and their families.

Exactly. That was my point.

 

[KellyNY]

Careful with pregnant women. Once I was given a seat b/c man thought I was pregnant and I was not.

 

[disneygirlinnj]

It's not dead on the Shades of Green busses. And its not just a male/female thing. Everyone, young or old, is always offering to give up seats for people who appear they might need them. Its a refreshing change to see teenagers (male and female) being polite and nice on the bus. Quite a change form the public transportation sytems at home!

As another poster said, I think that definitely has something to do with it being military families. There would be a lot more chivalry around us if everyone has the honor/respect/loyalty drilled into them.

 

[blondemom]

I noticed the opposite when we went (8/22 through 8/30). I was offered a seat many times on both busses and monorails. But, I was not holding a child, or in anyway uncomfortable, so I stood. My husband never sat unless it was an empty bus or monorail, nor did my 11-year old son. My 6-year old even stood a few times without complaint. There were many people around us giving up their seats to the older folks (who sometimes refused the seat as well). I gave my seat up to a dad holding a sleeping baby. I had my 6-year old sit on my lap a few times to make room for another person to sit.

I was very impressed with the situation! Maybe I was traveling with dis'ers!

 

[KSDisneyDad]

I totally agree.

Chivalry is dead.

Presumptuousness... that seems to be alive and kicking.

Which is obviously a two way street. See below:

I don't think men should be expected to give up their seat to a woman or a person with a child. The "with a child" thing irks me. Parents need to take responsibility for having their kids on vacation and not expect special treatment. If you would prefer to sit, then like others have said... wait for the next bus. A child does not give you front of the line access, free license to cut in lines, or first choice of seats on a bus. (Not that anyone here would ever assume such a thing! )

Peace.

I don't think any parent holding a sleeping child wants special treatment. It would be appreciated if offered and those who are often offended the most are those parent who witness it happen knowing how hard it is in that situation. I'm so glad that you think it's convenient to just wait for the next bus. On our recent trip, we left TL around 3:30 p.m. in the afternoon. A dad holding a sleeping child was at the bus stop waiting for over 20 minutes with us. When the bus arrived, there were no empty seats because it was coming from DTD. Are you expecting that Dad to stand around for another 20 minutes and hoping that the next bus didn't pick too many people up at DTD? Most likely that next bus was going to be full as well. That Dad stood as no one gave up their seat. He never asked for assistance nor gave anyone the evil eye. How did this Dad not show responsibility?

And how in the world did you jump to conclusions about a parent holding a sleeping child is similar to cutting in line or asking for front of the line access? I see no logic (or compassion) whatsoever in your arguments.

 

[Pecobill]

As another poster said, I think that definitely has something to do with it being military families. There would be a lot more chivalry around us if everyone has the honor/respect/loyalty drilled into them.

You forgot duty/selfless service/integrity/personal courage.

 

[supercarrie]

My experience with Disney buses is relatively limited as most of our trips have involved off-site stays with rental cars, but I take the tube every day in London. As a woman, I do not expect to be offered a seat, but am really appalled at the number of elderly people and heavily pregnant women who get on and are not offered seats. There are "priority" seats near the entrances to each carriage which are specifically supposed to be given up for people in need - if you pass down the carriage to the other seats, people are often standing in the way so it is difficult for those people in need to reach them. However, as people often ignore this, I often give up one of those seats (I am not usually in a priority seat) and physically clear a pathway (whilst blocking the seat until the person in need gets to it!) for that person - I had someone try and steal the seat as I stood up to offer it to a pregnant woman!

It is generally the women who give up seats to other women - particularly pregnant women. Elderly people tend to be offered seats by both men and women. I only hope when I am pregnant, that people respond in kind.