Child Hit By Bus Outside of Fort Wilderness

[FireDancer]

I have not been to Ft Wilderness and unfortunately don't have kiddos yet. Is it not odd that a 9 and 10 year old were riding bikes around with no adults?

I can't speak for Ft. Wilderness but I camp a lot at a park in central Ohio and kids that age and younger are off on their own a lot playing with each other. It is pretty laid back but we also have no buses going through there.

When I was 9 and 10 we were allowed to ride our bikes in our neighborhood all we wanted. There were limits of course as to how far we could go but we would ride to a field at the end of our street and play ball or to our friends house.

It depends on the neighborhood and the traffic. Again, we didn't have buses everywhere. Without knowing the Ft. Wilderness lodge I can't really judge whether it is overly dangerous.

 

[terri01p]

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[happygirl]

Sometimes in life terrible things just happen. Where the boy was riding his bike wasn't really a bike path, just a sidewalk area and it is safe for the most part. Things happen everyday, fluke things and I'm afraid this is one of them albeit terrible.
I saw the video of the grandmother and I have to say it made me kind of mad, although my heart goes out to the family.

I didn't see the video what did the grandma say

 

[kirstenb1]

wHEN I was 9, we rode our bikes everywhere in town. I must have done something really careless, because one of my dad's coworkers saw me, and told him. When dad got home that night, I was bigtime busted. I did stupid stuff all the time as a kid. This was just a tragic accident.

 

[wildernesslodgelover]

I didn't see the video what did the grandma say

There is a video here..

http://www.wtsp.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=128930

 

[mrsklamc]

For those that know the area, I read they were headed to an arcade?

 

[Tikitoi]

What's so sad too is a few years ago his brother drowned. Those poor parents. Losing both of their children so tragically.

Is this another reason the parents are looking to blame someone? Of course they will want to say it's Disney's fault. But if the information as far as the boy being hit on the side of the bus is true, then it seems they can't say it's Disney's fault.

No one wants to look bad as a parent, but there are a lot of them out there. Just don't pay enough attention to their kids.

Tragic all around. For the bus driver as well.

 

[happygirl]

There is a video here..

http://www.wtsp.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=128930

the family is just looking for someone to blame. There is no one to blame it was just an accident.

 

[Deb in IA]

From reading the account of the accident, it sounds like the boy just somehow veered off the sidewalk into the middle of the bus and was dragged under the right rear wheel.

An accident like this could have happened anywhere.

While horrible and tragic, just because it happened at Disney World doesn't mean they are responsible.


As much as I loathe "blaming the victim", in this case, the only one responsible for the accident is the boy.

 

[JennMouse32]

I know this is sad and a horrible thing to happen, there is not way aroudn those points.. but places, including on these boards, keep saying what is with the WDW bus system and all that... the article says the child veered into the road.... the child.. the bus didnt veer onto the sidewalk.. the boy wasnt suppose to be in the road... so i do not see why in any way its the WDW bus systems fault... its a horrible tragidy yes there is no doubt in that.. But its not the bus systems fault. nor do i think is it the child's.. for all we know the child could have been avoiding something on the sidewalk.. we dont know..but its simply unfair to blame the bus system..​

 

[CandyMandy]

Here is the child who died, Chase Brubaker.

 

[Tink888]

I'm sure this is a flammable opinion, but the mom is a liar. The kid rode into the side of the bus, now she is saying the bus jumped the curb and hit her son? Um yeah, she is just looking for a big payout. There was even a witness that was riding behind him that confirmed the kid hit the bus.

She was just interviewed on the news and she wasn't even upset. Just dollar signs in her eyes. (I do feel horrible for what happened, but the mom just makes me so mad.)

Really? You think that's all it is, is looking for a payout? Maybe not that her son just died and she's angry and devastated and irrationally looking for someone to blame?

I don't know about that.

Is it normal to imply that someone deliberately killed your child? Grandma needs a physics lesson. How does someone deliberately hit the child with the side of the bus?

I think it's a normal reaction, in the event of a tragedy, to want to place blame somewhere. Misplaced? Yes, but it happens all the time. The loss of a child is a pretty harsh reality for anyone to have to face. I'd don't know that I'd have a normal, logical reaction if it happened to me.

Is this another reason the parents are looking to blame someone? Of course they will want to say it's Disney's fault. But if the information as far as the boy being hit on the side of the bus is true, then it seems they can't say it's Disney's fault.

No one wants to look bad as a parent, but there are a lot of them out there. Just don't pay enough attention to their kids.

Tragic all around. For the bus driver as well.

And because their child died in a bicycling accident, they are bad parents?

the family is just looking for someone to blame. There is no one to blame it was just an accident.

Yes, a horrible, tragic accident. Not bad parenting or bad driving. And as much as I love Disney, the Disney company will survive this. The family of the boy and the driver? That's a harder question to answer. I don't agree with the families accusations against Disney, but sheesh, their child just died. Cut them a little slack. Unless you've lost a child, there's not a single person alive who can say how they'd react to it or what they'd do.

And when it comes to accidents, unless you put your child in a big bubble and never take your eyes off of them, an accident could happen to anyone.

There but for the grace of God go I.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Really? You think that's all it is, is looking for a payout? Maybe not that her son just died and she's angry and devastated and irrationally looking for someone to blame?




I think it's a normal reaction, in the event of a tragedy, to want to place blame somewhere. Misplaced? Yes, but it happens all the time. The loss of a child is a pretty harsh reality for anyone to have to face. I'd don't know that I'd have a normal, logical reaction if it happened to me.



And because their child died in a bicycling accident, they are bad parents?



Yes, a horrible, tragic accident. Not bad parenting or bad driving. And as much as I love Disney, the Disney company will survive this. The family of the boy and the driver? That's a harder question to answer. I don't agree with the families accusations against Disney, but sheesh, their child just died. Cut them a little slack. Unless you've lost a child, there's not a single person alive who can say how they'd react to it or what they'd do.

And when it comes to accidents, unless you put your child in a big bubble and never take your eyes off of them, an accident could happen to anyone.

There but for the grace of God go I.

In their grief, they are accusing the company of lying. Sorry--death is not an excuse for such a harsh accusation.

The accident could happen to anyone--but blaming a bus for deliberately leaving the road to strike that "anyone" is a step above blaming the driver for not watching where he was going.

Sorry--I can't sit here and sympathize with someone essentially accusing the bus driver of murder.

 

[ilovepcot]

Here is the child who died, Chase Brubaker.

Wasn't he the cutest kid! Sad beyond belief.

 

[Tink888]

In their grief, they are accusing the company of lying. Sorry--death is not an excuse for such a harsh accusation.

The accident could happen to anyone--but blaming a bus for deliberately leaving the road to strike that "anyone" is a step above blaming the driver for not watching where he was going.

Sorry--I can't sit here and sympathize with someone essentially accusing the bus driver of murder.

Did we watch the same video? http://www.wtsp.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=128930

I took from the video, an incredibly and understandably distraught grandparent wanting to believe the story of her grandson's friend. Nowhere did I hear her say the driver intentionally went off the road. She goes on to speak of warning parents not to have a false sense of security at Disney (a common warning even found here on the boards pertaining to safety, theft, etc.)

Just goes to show you that we all have different perceptions. I can understand how her and the parent's perception of the events can be skewed when trying to process the loss less than 48 hours after it occurred.

Was there another video that you saw?

 

[Tikitoi]

And because their child died in a bicycling accident, they are bad parents?

You missed my point...which was that perhaps they would be concerned about being perceived this way. Maybe non attentive. Though I do not know the circumstances of the other childs accident.

 

[tazdev3225]

This was a tragic accident. Lashing out in anger is an understandable response. The child riding with the boy from all accounts did not see what happened as she was the lead rider and he was behind her. I hope that everyone involved gets some kind of counseling because self blame and grief can have life-long consequences. I did find it to be a little macabre that they had the boy's bicycle right there.

I can understand to an extent how the family feels. My DD was hit by a car when she was 6, It happened in front of my house as I stood helpless on my steps. My DS still blames himself 20 years later because he couldn't grab her in time. I blame myself because of all the what ifs. I do blame the driver of the car because he had his child on his lap as he drove up the street, it was a neighbor, and changed his account of the accident numerous times over the next couple of years as we sued him. My DD was struck by the side of the car and pulled under. Thankfully the most devastating injury was a severely broken leg. I do have my DD though as she survived the accident. In grief we stay and do things that are out of the ordinary. I picked my DD up and took her in the house because it was raining and I didn't waqnt her to get wet. I had extensive 1st aid training and knew better.

It is human nature to want to blame someone. I hope that as they pass through the stages of grief they come to realize that this was a tragic accident.

 

[mrsklamc]

You missed my point...which was that perhaps they would be concerned about being perceived this way. Maybe non attentive. Though I do not know the circumstances of the other childs accident.

Her other son was 25 when he drowned.

 

[sorcerormickey]

Really? You think that's all it is, is looking for a payout? Maybe not that her son just died and she's angry and devastated and irrationally looking for someone to blame?

Yes, I do. All she thinks is "Disney killed my kid!" CHA-CHING! It couldn't possibly be her special snowflake that did something wrong.

Sorry--I can't sit here and sympathize with someone essentially accusing the bus driver of murder.

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[lillygator]

yes, I believe the family is looking for a payout which - well. I understand in the moments of grief you can say anything, but really....come on.