Child-free, but not by choice?

I think 75% of this group is at WDW right now! Thought I'd give us a bump anyway!!!

We leave for WDW on Friday!!! Woo Hoo!!!
 
Yes, it's gotten rather quiet.

I don't leave for another week and a half, so I'll probably be gone while everyone is sharing their stories.

Thanks for the bump!
 
I just had to subscribe! My DH and I have been trying for 2 and 1/2 years now w/o any luck. I'm still not over to an RE yet...still just doing initial testing with OBgyn....but so far she hasn't found anything wrong. DH is dragging his feet on getting his SA. I'm sorry for all of your losses. But, there is hope that you are actually able to get pregnant. I haven't even gotten that far yet :confused3 It really sucks. I told DH that he really needs to get his SA done after we get back from WDW (we leave on 9/13 and come home on 9/22) because I'm tired of trying for a baby w/o even knowing if we are able to conceive. If he's sterile I'd like to know so I can move on with my life and stop hoping all the time that I just might get pregnant. I know you all understand. This thread looks awesome. I saw it before but was too chicken to join. But now, I'm just so fed up that it would be nice to have a support group and be able to talk to women out there that I can sympathise with and that can sympathise with me. It's so hard to find good people that understand the pain of infertility. :headache:

Anyways, so I see a lot of you are going to WDW around the same time as me :thumbsup2 Maybe we'll be lucky and run into one another at some point. Or if one of us happens to have a miracle happen to us while at WDW we can pass along that magical dust to the others on this thread TTC. Who whould've thought that having a baby would be so hard?? :confused: :laughing:
 
Welcome Leger!

I understand your frustration. We've been working on TTC for 3.5 years and, despite all test suggesting that I'm perfectly fertile, we've had no success.

Please join in and use this as a place to type with friends.

One thing I'd add though...even if your DH's SA comes back suggesting challenges, you might want to still consider seeing an RE. There are already several options for dealing with male infertility and new techniques are being developed all the time.
 

Thank you so much for the warm welcome. I'm also sorry to hear that you have been trying so long w/o any success as well :headache: It really sucks!

Thanks for the adivce on the RE. Everyone keeps telling me I shouldn't give up hope but it gets so hard to live a normal life and not get depressed when your TTC w/o success. I still have two more tests to do myself with my obgyn. I've been putting them off...I wanted to take a break on all of that until I get back from WDW. Once those are done I'll probably seek out an RE and at least see what our options are I guess. It's one step at a time I suppose. I'm glad to see this thread on the DISboards because the boards on all those other baby web sites get so bombarded with women obsessed with "signs" and "symptoms" of being pregnant that it gets my hopes up too. It seems like there is more support here rather than obsessing. I really appreciate that this is here :thumbsup2 :grouphug:
 
Hi- I am coming into the discussion late, but my dh and I also went thru 4 yrs of infertility hell. We did 3 rounds clomid, 3 IUI's, and 3 IVF's. Our 3rd IVF resulted in a heterotopic pg where one was in my uterus and one was in my cervix (which is a major source of blood). After nearly bleeding to death and spending 2 weeks in the hospital, I decided I wanted to be a mom more than I wanted to be pg.

So from my hospital bed I started contacting adoption agencies. We sent our paperwork down to guatemala, and 5 mos later, and on the same day I would have delivered my twins, I brought home my 1st son from Guatemala. 2 mos later I brought home our 2nd son (we went thru both adoptions at the same time).

Looking back, the 5 mos of our adoption process was less stressful than the 3 weeks I was pg- and the adoption process was never life-threatening!

But I wish everyone going thru treatment good luck- it is not a fun way to live- blood tests, ultrasounds, waiting anxiously for some good news.

My thoughts are with all of you!
 
Congrats Elaine and welcome Leger. To lighten everyones mood i'm going to tell you a story about Hubby and his trip to the clinic for *his count* .. well he did what he had to at home.. drove over to the clinic with it which the clinic was absolutely FULL at the time with men and women which he found strange. He waited his turn in line to get to the receptionist and he whispered to her what he had.. She in turn in a loud enough voice said.. I'm sorry sir you want to take your sample to our fertility clinic its 2 buildings over. I just about died laughing. He just about died of embarrassment. Your smile for the day!!
 
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Hi everybody, I'm back and am finally going to make time to check in. We had a wonderful time at WDW with the exception of being caught in the moset horrible storm I have seen in a while. There were no crowds, I didn't know how to act. The longest wait we had was for Test Track and we only waited for maybe 2 minutes before entering the room with the tv's and they waited in a short line to ride.

I'm so sorry I forgot to pick you guys up, DH had to go to the attorney's office 30 minutes in the opposite direction of WDW to sign some papers to be filed with the court, then we finally hit the road later than planned. You wouldn't have wanted to ride with him anyway, he is a really bad driver (he drives a tractor trailer better than he does a car). He is pretty ornery most of the time, I wish he would pull that corn cob out of his behind, he would feel so much better. Actually, I think I married grumpy.

Well, we arrived at WDW about 5:30 and pulled up to WL and were immediately greeted by Bell services who took our luggage, then I went in and checked in while DH parked the car. He met me in the lobby where I got my scooter (ECV) and we went to find our room. I was disappointed that they had put us down on the first floor, but we got a king bed and a huge bathroom (don't know how that happened), but I paid for a woods view, but we got a great view of the pool. We could walk out onto our patio and if there hadn't been any bushes, we could have gotten to the pool. I wanted a room higher up, but this one was great so I didn't complain. We called bell services and DH decided to get frisky, that is when there was a knock on the door and it was our Bellhop "Arnie", he was so nice and talked to us for a little while. He came in and put our luggage on those little folding racks and hung up my hanging clothes. He was so nice. I had to request more towels, mousekeeping didn't leave enough. We decided to go over to the Boardwalk, since we have never been over there and we thought we could get something to eat over there. We took a bus over to DTD and that is when DH mad me so mad I could have spit nails. We got off the bus at DTD and I told him to find the bus stop for Boardwalk or Yacht and Beach Club, well just about that time a bus for Yacht and Beach club pulled and I told him that we could get on it, The bus driver asked me where we were going and I told him, then DH pipes up and says that we are going to the Boardwalk, that is when I lost my mind. The bus driver wouldn't let us board, so quietly went off on DH (usually I'm not so quiet). Eventually, a BoardWalk bus came and off we went. We had a nice time walking along the boardwalk and I had a really terible hot dog, but that was okay too, I was at WDW. Just before 9:00 we decided to wander over to the International Gateway (we couldn't go in, becasue we didn't have tickets) and watch Illuminations. While I was trying to enjoy it, my father-in-law called, so I told DH to go away. After it was over we decided to go back through the Yacht or Beach Club (don't know which one we were in) and take the bus back to DTD. We decided to stay at DTD for a little while and look around, then we headed back to WL and went to bed.

Thursday morning we went to MGM and had a great time. We arrived just prior to opening and DH and I went into Sid Cahunega's and look around, while everyone els stopped for some kind of show. After we finished there, I went ove to the camera shop and bought myself the Mickey camera strap and then we headed over and had a picture taken with Pluto and then Stitch. We rode The Great Movie ride and then went back and rode the Backlot Tour. I don't remember what we did next, but we did Narnia, One Man's Dream, and Magic of Disney Animation, then went to Backlot express for some lunch. After that we headed over to see what the wait for Rock'n Rollercoaster was and the sign said 20 minutes, so I left DH there and went over and saw The Little Mermaid and back over to see Beauty and the Beast, then out to see the parade in peace and quiet. DH left RNRC and went to see the stunt show and we met up after that and headed back to the resort for a rest, the went to DTD for awhile.

Friday we got up at the bu** crack of dawn to go to the Poly for reservation at O'hana, then rode the monorail over to EPCOT. We arrived just after opening and headed over to Test Track, after that we rode Living with the Land and The Seas with Nemo and friends, then it was time for WS to open and we went to Canada and I took some pictures and went into the shop, then headed to the UK and got a fish and chips basket, then looked around France and, the Morroco and I had to shop in Japan (they have some good stuff), then wandered towards the American pavilion where we saw the Drum and Fife Corp, the Voices of Liberty and The American Adverture, then looked around some more, then rode El Rio del Tiempo, then headed back to Future World and we stopped at Club Cool, then went to Mousegears, then left about 2:30-3:00 to go back tot he resort for a rest before the Pirate and Princess Party from h*ll. It started sprinkling rain before we left EPCOT, but it wasn't bad, but after we got back to our room, the bottom fell out. It did clear a little by 4:30, so we headed out to take the boat to the MK, and it just got worse from there. We finally made it to the MK and into the party. Just as we rolled into the park, the bottom fell out again. We finally made it over and rode Buzz Lightyear, then the TTA, then the really big storm hit, and we were stuck under the cover at the bottom of the TTA on the left side of the entrance as you enter the escalator. Eventually it let up and we made our way to POtC and rode it twice, then went to eat at el Pirata y el Perico, then we were on our way to Fantasyland and just as we passed Columbia Harbour House, my ECV quit. Luckily, I had let DH rent one at the park because his knee was bothering him and he let me take his and he pushed mine back to Main Street. By this time, I was crying and really wet despite the fact that we were wearing our ponchos (mine got ripped somewhere along that route). I pulled into the area of the Emporiom where the women's clothing is and the really nice CM came over and got me some kleenex, a cup of cold water and some paper towels. The CM waited with me while DH took my scooter to the front and checked it and came back. The CM got me a new poncho and after I calmed down, we wandered the store, because it was getting to be time for the first parade. Just as I got situated to watch the parade, it was cancelled. I decided I would do my souvenier shopping and maybe the rain would let up, but it didn't, so we left without even doing our shopping. DH went and got my ECV and I managed to make it to the bus stop when it quit again. DH got it on the bus that pulled up and we went back to the resort, where I did my shopping and DH went to the arcade after leaving the ECV at teh front for the company to pick up early the next morning, I went back to the room and dried off and laid down and watched tv. DH came in about 10:00 and was fussing because he couldn't find me and I was right there in the room. We went up to Roaring Forks at 10:45 and got something to eat and then went back to the room and paked up our stuff to be ready to check out on Saturday morning. On Saturday morning, we went over to the 2 outlets and then back to the DTD to get a bucket of popcorn to take home, then on to POR for lunch, then home. We arrived home about 9:30 Saturday evening to another rain storm.

Mom decided to go ahead and let us charge some Annual Passes on one of her credit cards and I added a day to our December trip, so we are going back to WDW from December 19 to December 21. First 2 nights are at CR and the last night at AKL. With the purchase of the AP's, I was able to save $200 off the room at AKL and we sill be able to use them on our trip next December, so I only did a 1 day base on it so we can get the DDP and that took off about $623 off and then they took off $250 for AAA discount.

I have alot of catching up to do, but I will leav it like this for now and get back to you on my lunch break tonight.

Suzanne princess:
 
WOO HOO You're home! So sorry that your trip wasnt sprinkled with pixie dust the whole time. Glad to see you back safe n sound tho :)
 
Hey PrincessSuzanne, I came over here to read your TR! Sounds like it was fun, despite the weather. I leave tomorrow, I am sooooo excited!! you need to post some pics to go along with your report! I have never stayed at WL, was it as nice as everyone says?
 
Hey PrincessSuzanne, I came over here to read your TR! Sounds like it was fun, despite the weather. I leave tomorrow, I am sooooo excited!! you need to post some pics to go along with your report! I have never stayed at WL, was it as nice as everyone says?

I see you're leaving for WDW tomorrow! So are me and my DH :cool1:

yay for Disney trips!! :yay: :dance3:
 
Hello Ladies!!!

We are quite the September vacation group in here, aren't we??? I leave Friday morning!! Woo Hoo!!!

In TTC news, I'm simply waiting for AF to get here (day 43, grrrr!) so I can schedule my saline u/s, and then I'll start supression on CD21. Of course, AF will probably show up Fri morning as I'm on my way to Disney! LOL!!

Leger -- Hello and welcome!!!! You will fit in just great around here! Especially since you fit in with all of our vacation schedules! LOL!! Looks like our trips will overlap! I will be there 9/14-9/17!

Mickeysmainmami -- Have a great trip! Looks like we'll be overlapping as well!!

Suzanne -- Welcome home!!! I'm sorry that your trip had some bumps in the road, but I'm glad that you still had a great time. Woo Hoo on those annual passes! Time to start planning your next trip!

Debbie -- LOL about your DH!!! Wait til I tell my DH that one! ha ha! My DH has gotten better about producing his specimen at the office, but he still gets all nervous and embarassed about it! LOL!!

Elaine -- Thank you for sharing your story, and congratulations on your successful adoptions!!!
 
Hello Ladies!!!

We are quite the September vacation group in here, aren't we??? I leave Friday morning!! Woo Hoo!!!

In TTC news, I'm simply waiting for AF to get here (day 43, grrrr!) so I can schedule my saline u/s, and then I'll start supression on CD21. Of course, AF will probably show up Fri morning as I'm on my way to Disney! LOL!!

Leger -- Hello and welcome!!!! You will fit in just great around here! Especially since you fit in with all of our vacation schedules! LOL!! Looks like our trips will overlap! I will be there 9/14-9/17!

Mickeysmainmami -- Have a great trip! Looks like we'll be overlapping as well!!

Suzanne -- Welcome home!!! I'm sorry that your trip had some bumps in the road, but I'm glad that you still had a great time. Woo Hoo on those annual passes! Time to start planning your next trip!

Debbie -- LOL about your DH!!! Wait til I tell my DH that one! ha ha! My DH has gotten better about producing his specimen at the office, but he still gets all nervous and embarassed about it! LOL!!

Elaine -- Thank you for sharing your story, and congratulations on your successful adoptions!!!

booo for AF on your trip!! I hope it doesn't show up while you're there. :headache: I had mine last week (thank God) so we will be trying our hardest while we're at WDW to bring back a little Mickey gift with us :goodvibes

Thank you for the welcome. I noticed it looks like lots of this group are gonna be at WDW around that time. That's so cool. :woohoo: Your trip dates are funny to me because you arrive on my birthday and leave on my DH's birthday. :laughing: I hope you have a blast while you're there! :thumbsup2
 
Hey PrincessSuzanne, I came over here to read your TR! Sounds like it was fun, despite the weather. I leave tomorrow, I am sooooo excited!! you need to post some pics to go along with your report! I have never stayed at WL, was it as nice as everyone says?

I want to go with you :rotfl:. We really did have a great time, and DH was really pretty good. He only left me by myself once and that was when I decided I would go see Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, and the parade at MGM, and I let him go ride RnRC and see the Stunt show, other than that he was pretty happy. I did get mad at him twice and he really deserved it then :rotfl2:

Have a great trip and hopefully the weather will cooperate for you.

Suzanne princess:
 
Hello Ladies!!!

We are quite the September vacation group in here, aren't we??? I leave Friday morning!! Woo Hoo!!!

In TTC news, I'm simply waiting for AF to get here (day 43, grrrr!) so I can schedule my saline u/s, and then I'll start supression on CD21. Of course, AF will probably show up Fri morning as I'm on my way to Disney! LOL!!

Leger -- Hello and welcome!!!! You will fit in just great around here! Especially since you fit in with all of our vacation schedules! LOL!! Looks like our trips will overlap! I will be there 9/14-9/17!

Mickeysmainmami -- Have a great trip! Looks like we'll be overlapping as well!!

Suzanne -- Welcome home!!! I'm sorry that your trip had some bumps in the road, but I'm glad that you still had a great time. Woo Hoo on those annual passes! Time to start planning your next trip!

Debbie -- LOL about your DH!!! Wait til I tell my DH that one! ha ha! My DH has gotten better about producing his specimen at the office, but he still gets all nervous and embarassed about it! LOL!!

Elaine -- Thank you for sharing your story, and congratulations on your successful adoptions!!!


I have gotten over the disappointment of that little bump, but sad that we missed so much. We would have waited it out if my ECV hadn't given out, but OH well, I will be back in December (my favortie time of the year, so far)

I am ahead of ya here, I have trips booked for December 19-22, 2007; April 30-May 3, 2008; and December 13-21, 2008 :woohoo:

Suzanne princess:
 
I just had to subscribe! My DH and I have been trying for 2 and 1/2 years now w/o any luck. I'm still not over to an RE yet...still just doing initial testing with OBgyn....but so far she hasn't found anything wrong. DH is dragging his feet on getting his SA. I'm sorry for all of your losses. But, there is hope that you are actually able to get pregnant. I haven't even gotten that far yet :confused3 It really sucks. I told DH that he really needs to get his SA done after we get back from WDW (we leave on 9/13 and come home on 9/22) because I'm tired of trying for a baby w/o even knowing if we are able to conceive. If he's sterile I'd like to know so I can move on with my life and stop hoping all the time that I just might get pregnant. I know you all understand. This thread looks awesome. I saw it before but was too chicken to join. But now, I'm just so fed up that it would be nice to have a support group and be able to talk to women out there that I can sympathise with and that can sympathise with me. It's so hard to find good people that understand the pain of infertility. :headache:

Anyways, so I see a lot of you are going to WDW around the same time as me :thumbsup2 Maybe we'll be lucky and run into one another at some point. Or if one of us happens to have a miracle happen to us while at WDW we can pass along that magical dust to the others on this thread TTC. Who whould've thought that having a baby would be so hard?? :confused: :laughing:


Hi Leger13, Welcome to the group, nice to have some new groupies. I too am like you, I haven't been able to get pregnant at all, very disappointing. DH and I have been trying for almost 6 years with not even one BFP.

DH was tested first because I knew that would be the easiest and least expensive route to go, and low and behold, he has a problem. The RE said that we should be successful with IUI, but after 3, still no baby; that was 3 years ago after almost 3 years of trying alone and not having insurance to cover anything. My insurance covers very little, not even sure it covers anything anymore. I deecided I had had enough, after the emotional roller coaster I had been on with the IUI, I couldn't do it any more. I decided to just go to a new GYN, but she wasn't sympathetic to my situation and long story short, she kicked me out of her practice. She did send us to see a urologist that I had worked for and he couldn't find any hormonal (or really any other reason) reasons for DH to have such a low count, so he started him on Clomid, yes Clomid, well it made him very mean and violent (he has always been a bit mean), he walked out on me a month after returning home from our first Disney trip. The reason that was booked was so I could go to Ripley's Believe It or Not and rub the fertility statues. Well after being gone about 6 weeks, he came back. I have a new GYN who is wnoderful and very sympathetic, she started me on some steroids taht were supposed to help jump start my system, they only helped me gain more weight, then she gave me Metformin and I have had to quit those because of stomach problems (need to try again). Earlier this year, I decided to give up altogether and have been mostly at peace about it, I do have my moments. A relative asked me to take 2 children belonging to her neice because she can't care for them, but the state thought it was best to keep them in the home (the mother is retarded) and I just found out she is pregnant with #3 and they have been taken out of the home for 2 weeks, but they are going to give them back(real bright system AL has). It would probably make more sense for your DH to get tested first because it really is less expensive to fix his problem than yours. All he needs to do is get that SA and if he has a problem a Urologist can help and is alot less expensive than an RE and insurance will pay for a man's problems more quickly than a womans

I have my days where I get down, but I have been so busy dealing with my mother's siblings and the problems they are causing I haven't had much time to think about me.

I still keep hope that a baby will fall out of the sky and land in my arms and be mine, but even that doesn't look good. DH and I can't afford IVF and with no guarantee, I just don't think I would risk it. Adoption is also out of the question, because I have negative thoughts about it as well, so I guess I will never be a mother. I have always been one of those women that was told that I would make a great mother, and to not be able to be one is heartbreaking (OH! I feel the tears coming :sad1:) If anyone can offer any other solutions, I am still up for them, they just have to be legal and free.

I better get back to work,

Suzanne princess:
 
Hi- I am coming into the discussion late, but my dh and I also went thru 4 yrs of infertility hell. We did 3 rounds clomid, 3 IUI's, and 3 IVF's. Our 3rd IVF resulted in a heterotopic pg where one was in my uterus and one was in my cervix (which is a major source of blood). After nearly bleeding to death and spending 2 weeks in the hospital, I decided I wanted to be a mom more than I wanted to be pg.

So from my hospital bed I started contacting adoption agencies. We sent our paperwork down to guatemala, and 5 mos later, and on the same day I would have delivered my twins, I brought home my 1st son from Guatemala. 2 mos later I brought home our 2nd son (we went thru both adoptions at the same time).

Looking back, the 5 mos of our adoption process was less stressful than the 3 weeks I was pg- and the adoption process was never life-threatening!

But I wish everyone going thru treatment good luck- it is not a fun way to live- blood tests, ultrasounds, waiting anxiously for some good news.

My thoughts are with all of you!


I don't mean to be nosy or into your business, but how do people afford adoption. I haven't been able to get past my company not offering paid time off to a woman who wants to adopt. AL requires up to 60 days required for a parent to be in the home to get the child adjusted. I don't think it is fair that a woamn in our company can use her short term disability when she is out on maternity leave, after she has used up her vacation, PTO and sick time, but I can't if I want to adopt. Last time I checked Maternity leave is not actually required, by state law (there is no law that says it has to be allowed). Yes, I do know about the Family Medical Leave Act, but we don't qualify for that because of some loophole about # of employees within a certain proximity to each other. Then I have to complain about the unheard of amount for adoption fees. One agency we looked at said non-profit, but they have a $25,000 adoption fee, WTH, how is that non-profit.

I better stop before I really go off.

Suzanne princess:
 
The Biggesttttttttttttttt Hugsssssssss for you tonight because I know you could use them!
 
UGH :scared1: Ijust really can't catch a break. Iam trying my best not to go off on my mom right now, I think she is trying to put me over the edge (I just don't think she gets it). I was trying to hold my composure because I am at work, but I just couldn't. OH yeah, you probably want to know why. I just "screened" a pt and she just had to tell me that she just had a abortion on Saturday, then mom calls and is going on and on about Nancy Grace having twins, then she just has to throw in there that my cousin's boyfriend's oldest daughter is pregnant, she is like 20 years old and has no clue. Why does mom do this? When is she going to get it. I have been pretty good about handling these things, but I just boiled over tonight. In the last few weeks, I have hears about another cousin of mine that is pregnant, she has a baby that is about 1 year old, she is 27 and her husband is 21 and neither of them have decent jobs, if she even has one. The girl that I was going to get her children, she is preg with # 3, and my mom's best friend's DIL is preg and has already lost custody of her first 3 and they are going to take this baby as soon as it is born.

I just want to go home and crawl in bed and stay there until, well forever.
 













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