Chicago Cubs fans - Rebuilding Year 2023

[FINFAN]

Maybe they came as a pair?

also probs how Jonesy is collateral damage

 

[FINFAN]

That is what I love about Rizzo. Once he gets two strikes, chokes up (a LOT) and just tries to put the ball into play somewhere. I know the HR is more sexy to a lot of folks (hope I don't get banned for that word), but trying to hit HRs all the time results in a LOT of strikeouts or popcorn flys also. I like Schwarbs a lot, but that's what killed his average this year. Fundamental baseball...get 'em on, get 'em over, get 'em in!

Same thing I used to get so frustrated with Ryan Klesko of the braves for...he was constantly swinging for the fence and struck out WAY more often than HR.

yeah but Hinske taught him that...and now he is the hitting coach for the Angels. Oh, I was raised to "Get 'em on, get 'em moving , get 'em home" lol our pattern of great minds continues (not that we have GREAT minds, but like minds)

 

[FINFAN]

Shut your mouth! Theo will not fire Joe.

I hope all this is also a case of who became available or what loop holes Theo found to make then available...same as how we got Joe~ more than being negatively based on get rid of so and so.

 

[docsoliday1]

yeah but Hinske taught him that...and now he is the hitting coach for the Angels. Oh, I was raised to "Get 'em on, get 'em moving , get 'em home" lol our pattern of great minds continues (not that we have GREAT minds, but like minds)

Okay, some rhetorical questions...
1) If Hinske taught Rizzo that, why didn't he teach the others?
2) If the other players see how successful Rizzo is with that approach, why wouldn't they emulate it?
3) I wonder who in Iowa helped Schwarbs. Once he was sent down, he seemed better when he came back. Not sure if that's because he got himself right or had good advice/coaching from someone in Iowa or both.

Great minds? Whaaa? Huh? I don't understand. What's that?

 

[FINFAN]

Okay, some rhetorical questions...
1) If Hinske taught Rizzo that, why didn't he teach the others?
2) If the other players see how successful Rizzo is with that approach, why wouldn't they emulate it?
3) I wonder who in Iowa helped Schwarbs. Once he was sent down, he seemed better when he came back. Not sure if that's because he got himself right or had good advice/coaching from someone in Iowa or both.

Great minds? Whaaa? Huh? I don't understand. What's that?

well Hinske was the first base coach before, and and a lefty himself so Riz picked his brain. He may have offered to other lefties, not sure how many are willing to have the HBP numbers Riz has by crowding the plate. Pretty sure JHey isn't and I don't blame him at all after his jaw was smashed. As far as Schwarb's, good question or was it simply getting AWAY from the staff at Wrigley? Once he was able to just do what he does without analyzing every last detail, he relaxed and got more consistent.

 

[FINFAN]

per Patrick Mooney:

Cubs are closing in on a deal with Hickey as the new pitching coach.

http://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/cu...next-pitching-coach-oversee-new-phase-wrigley

I'm sure Theo remembers too much tinkering brought down the Red Sox and has learned,,but this sure has been a busy week! I am pretty darn excited for Chili~


also, Golden Glove nominations for Rizzo, JHey and Zobie. How that Zobie nod isn't Javy is beyond me not to mention no Willson Contreras. Buster Posey AGAIN? Barnhart? LOL...OK. Then there's Corey *I just miffed a easy peasy routine play in the W.S." Seager for SS?I know his bat is on fire but this award is defense. I am telling myself that Javy having to split his year between SS and 2nd is what did him in.

https://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2017/10/26/16554054/2017-gold-glove-finalists-rawlings

 

[docsoliday1]

well Hinske was the first base coach before, and and a lefty himself so Riz picked his brain. He may have offered to other lefties, not sure how many are willing to have the HBP numbers Riz has by crowding the plate. Pretty sure JHey isn't and I don't blame him at all after his jaw was smashed. As far as Schwarb's, good question or was it simply getting AWAY from the staff at Wrigley? Once he was able to just do what he does without analyzing every last detail, he relaxed and got more consistent.

I was talking about his choking up on the bat and putting the ball into play not the crowding the plate. I'm sure after JHey's jaw, that's the least likely thing on his mind.

And just to be certain...I was trying to act dumb so would indicate I agree you have a great mind, but not so much my own. After re-reading, guess it was an epic fail.

 

[FINFAN]

I was talking about his choking up on the bat and putting the ball into play not the crowding the plate. I'm sure after JHey's jaw, that's the least likely thing on his mind.

And just to be certain...I was trying to act dumb so would indicate I agree you have a great mind, but not so much my own. After re-reading, guess it was an epic fail.

Hinske also helped with he choking up AFAIK~ If I ever get to have a face to face w/Rizzo I will ask him on your behalf, lol.

You will probably like this article
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sport...tters-choking-up-spt-1006-20171005-story.html

I got the drift Doc, no epic fail.

 

[Sepo]

The Tom Verducci book, The Cubs Way was a pretty good read. It’s a bit long winded but I really enjoyed it. He really delved deep into the stories of many of the players, Joe, and Theo. A decent section devoted to the B Hack too.

My off season recommendation for the Book Club. : )

 

[robinb]

Jim Hickey is the Cubs new pitching coach. I am very excited for the next season!

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sport...ili-davis-jim-hickey-cubs-20171027-story.html

 

[FINFAN]

so we get Hickey, the Cardinals get Maddux for their new pitching coach, and Bosio the front runner for Detroit

Jim Hickey is the Cubs new pitching coach. I am very excited for the next season!

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sport...ili-davis-jim-hickey-cubs-20171027-story.html

so we get Hickey, the Cardinals get Maddux for their new pitching coach, and Bosio the front runner for Detroit~ put me in the excited group too! Tho I think I am most happy about Chili

 

[FINFAN]

RIZZO WON THE ROBERTO CLEMENTE AWARD!!!!Thrilled for him and 100 billion percent deserved!!!

Rizzo received $25,000 for winning Clemente award and will donate that to Puerto Rico hurricane relief efforts in Roberto's honor

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sport...zo-roberto-clemente-award-20171028-story.html


https://chicago.suntimes.com/sports...motional-over-winning-roberto-clemente-award/

 

[Sepo]

RIZZO WON THE ROBERTO CLEMENTE AWARD!!!!Thrilled for him and 100 billion percent deserved!!!

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sport...zo-roberto-clemente-award-20171028-story.html


https://chicago.suntimes.com/sports...motional-over-winning-roberto-clemente-award/

He had said somewhere that this was the one that would mean the most to him. Excellent.

 

[robinb]

So happy for Rizz! What an honor.
http://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/cu...egacy-will-now-include-roberto-clemente-award

 

[FINFAN]

He had said somewhere that this was the one that would mean the most to him. Excellent.

yep! He said this one is going front and center, means more than any baseball accomplishment. Just coming off the World Series, that speaks volumes.

 

[FINFAN]

Is it wrong that I am enjoying Taylor struggling in the field ? The ball off his hat last night..tonight misjudges the ball and then his throw to the plate way off. Astros get Darvish out in the 2nd..holy cow

 

[Pacolovestacos]

Dave Martinez hired by the Nationals. Damnit!!!!!!!

 

[robinb]

Dave Martinez hired by the Nationals. Damnit!!!!!!!

Is that for sure? I heard he was interviewing with the Nats.

 

[FINFAN]

My friend just sent me this

https://www.mlb.com/cubs/video/chicago-cubs-2017-season-recap/c-1865526683

 

[Sepo]

I also got a glimpse at that on Tom Rickett’s Cubs mailing list thank you email this evening. Didn’t know how to copy the link. I was loving that video and then it ended abruptly : )

Here’s a link to coaching style on Hickey:
Get to know new Cubs pitching coach Jim Hickey - Bleed Cubbie Blue

https://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2017/10/27/16527794/jim-hickey-cubs-coaching-staff