CDC Notifies States, Large Cities To Prepare For Vaccine Distribution As Soon As Late October

[DLgal]

Was the one in Seattle in January not official? I remember it distinctly because it was the same week my DD moved to Seattle. And I’m pretty convinced it was around before December. I have nothing to back that up but my gut but I would not be surprised at all to find out it was around earlier.

Orange county, CA had an official case on January 26, 2020. I remember it well because the guy was in the hospital 2 miles down the road from me and everyone was freaking out about whether he had visited any local places before going there.

 

[Jonfw2]

Orange county, CA had an official case on January 26, 2020. I remember it well because the guy was in the hospital 2 miles down the road from me and everyone was freaking out about whether he had visited any local places before going there.

There you go. And I guarantee you the actual "real" first case was way before that. We will never know.

 

[wenrob]

There is no doubt at all at this point that that was Covid- but at the time, they just thought it was a surge in the flu.

Jan 21st and my DD left on Jan 23rd. That crazy nursing home outbreak was literally down the street from where she worked. Her job there was doomed before she even got started.
https://www.ajmc.com/view/a-timeline-of-covid19-developments-in-2020

 

[wenrob]

Orange county, CA had an official case on January 26, 2020. I remember it well because the guy was in the hospital 2 miles down the road from me and everyone was freaking out about whether he had visited any local places before going there.

Back in the days when we thought surely they’ll get a handle on this.

 

[Jonfw2]

Back in the days when we thought surely they’ll get a handle on this.

There is zero doubt that for too long, we were WAY too optimistic...or just hoping against hope. This is probably the reason that the pessimists still get so much press now- it feels appropriate to listen to them now since they were right for so long.

 

[Jonfw2]

No bombshells here...and the avoid medium to large sized crowds is borderline ridiculous...

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/heal...ctivities-after-covid-19-vaccination-n1259969

 

[DLgal]

Back in the days when we thought surely they’ll get a handle on this.

I never thought it would be easy to stop. I keep seeing a meme going around about how "last year, this was the last normal week and no one knew it."

And I'm over here like, huh? I was freaking out about this virus almost a full 2 MONTHS before mid March. I had a husband living in Asia at the time. People here were already wearing masks and using hand sanitizer and wipes by early February because it seemed inevitable that this thing was going to blow up any time (I live in a VERY predominant Chinese area). We went to Disneyland March 7 for the last time and were FULL ON social distancing and hand sanitizing after every ride. That had been our norm for a few weeks at that point. I had debated long and hard about whether it was safe to visit the parks that last day. We went and I felt okay about it, but I spent the next 14 days worried sick and waiting for symptoms.

I guess things were mostly normal for people in other parts of the country who didn't get their first cases until late March or later. But being one of the first cities cities report a case, things were definitely not being taken lightly here.

 

[jlwhitney]

No bombshells here...and the avoid medium to large sized crowds is borderline ridiculous...

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/heal...ctivities-after-covid-19-vaccination-n1259969

I think its fully ridiculous IMO and honestly will still keep more people from getting it especially those that weren't high risk in the first place.

You are safe around non vaxxed family but not around a stranger is basicallly what they are saying. I get what they are trying to do but be real the vast majority are getting the vax so life can be normal which they are still saying isn't possibly anytime soon.

 

[DLgal]

I think its fully ridiculous IMO and honestly will still keep more people from getting it especially those that weren't high risk in the first place.

You are safe around non vaxxed family but not around a stranger is basicallly what they are saying. I get what they are trying to do but be real the vast majority are getting the vax so life can be normal which they are still saying isn't possibly anytime soon.

What? Why?

 

[jlwhitney]

What? Why?

They are still saying the whats safe and not game when they end up making no sense and I am tired of it. Yes its great that grand parents can see grand kids, but be real many of them have been seeing them this whole time especially with how many help watch them while parents work.

 

[Jonfw2]

I never thought it would be easy to stop. I keep seeing a meme going around about how "last year, this was the last normal week and no one knew it."

And I'm over here like, huh? I was freaking out about this virus almost a full 2 MONTHS before mid March. I had a husband living in Asia at the time. People here were already wearing masks and using hand sanitizer and wipes by early February because it seemed inevitable that this thing was going to blow up any time (I live in a VERY predominant Chinese area). We went to Disneyland March 7 for the last time and were FULL ON social distancing and hand sanitizing after every ride. That had been our norm for a few weeks at that point. I had debated long and hard about whether it was safe to visit the parks that last day. We went and I felt okay about it, but I spent the next 14 days worried sick and waiting for symptoms.

I guess things were mostly normal for people in other parts of the country who didn't get their first cases until late March or later. But being one of the first cities cities report a case, things were definitely not being taken lightly here.

You were definitely ahead of the curve.

 

[DLgal]

They are still saying the whats safe and not game when they end up making no sense and I am tired of it. Yes its great that grand parents can see grand kids, but be real many of them have been seeing them this whole time especially with how many help watch them while parents work.

But why would this guidance make people NOT want the vaccine?

 

[mrs. magoo]

Just saw on CNN this quote:

Specifically, as of Monday, 30,686,881 people have received two doses, according to the CDC.

More people are fully vaccinated than have had Covid - 29 million.

 

[Colleen27]

But why would this guidance make people NOT want the vaccine?

There's a "why bother" mentality out there - if the vaccine doesn't mean we can do normal things (and not normal in terms of family dinners but normal in terms of going to a NFL/MLB/NCAA game or see a concert or let the town festival happen this summer before two years of lost revenue ends it permanently), then what's the point of scrambling to get an appointment and taking even the small risk of side effects/complications? I don't agree with that mindset, but I do see it around me, particularly among the people who didn't have to/couldn't make major adjustments to their daily routines because they needed to see the grandparents because that's their only childcare with the schools closed and they have jobs they still have to show up for every day. If the vaccine isn't a path to getting life's pleasures back, just a way to be safer in the drudgery that we're now calling the "new normal", some people will be less motivated to get it.

I'm not saying the message should be "get the vaccine and throw caution to the wind", but there should be far more emphasis on "this is how we get those things back this year" rather than on the downsides and the need for indefinite (which reads to some like "forever") precautions.

 

[jlwhitney]

There's a "why bother" mentality out there - if the vaccine doesn't mean we can do normal things (and not normal in terms of family dinners but normal in terms of going to a NFL/MLB/NCAA game or see a concert or let the town festival happen this summer before two years of lost revenue ends it permanently), then what's the point of scrambling to get an appointment and taking even the small risk of side effects/complications? I don't agree with that mindset, but I do see it around me, particularly among the people who didn't have to/couldn't make major adjustments to their daily routines because they needed to see the grandparents because that's their only childcare with the schools closed and they have jobs they still have to show up for every day. If the vaccine isn't a path to getting life's pleasures back, just a way to be safer in the drudgery that we're now calling the "new normal", some people will be less motivated to get it.

I'm not saying the message should be "get the vaccine and throw caution to the wind", but there should be far more emphasis on "this is how we get those things back this year" rather than on the downsides and the need for indefinite (which reads to some like "forever") precautions.

The why bother is even more strong here because many events here are happening now with out masks. Our county fair which gets packed is no masks required and starts beginning of April. There have been many festivals no masks, and guess what people pack in with no masks no problem.

 

[helloconnie]

But why would this guidance make people NOT want the vaccine?

There is a percentage of the population that are anti-vaxers. They won't get it period. Then there is still a segment of this population that belief this is a "hoax", so why get a shot for something that does not actually exists. Then there is a segment that believe the conspiracy theory that the government is injecting you with a tracking device. (Yes, this exists, look it up.) And then those who do not trust the medical profession. And then, you will get those that think if everyone else gets it then they don't need to because the "herd immunity" will protect them. According to the latest PEW Research Poll, 31% of adults say they won't get vaccinated. That's roughly 65 million people over 18. So by the time May rolls around, that means if you are in a theme park theater with 100 people, roughly 30 of them will not have been vaccinated. This is why the mask mandate is not going away anytime soon.

 

[wenrob]

I never thought it would be easy to stop. I keep seeing a meme going around about how "last year, this was the last normal week and no one knew it."

And I'm over here like, huh? I was freaking out about this virus almost a full 2 MONTHS before mid March. I had a husband living in Asia at the time. People here were already wearing masks and using hand sanitizer and wipes by early February because it seemed inevitable that this thing was going to blow up any time (I live in a VERY predominant Chinese area). We went to Disneyland March 7 for the last time and were FULL ON social distancing and hand sanitizing after every ride. That had been our norm for a few weeks at that point. I had debated long and hard about whether it was safe to visit the parks that last day. We went and I felt okay about it, but I spent the next 14 days worried sick and waiting for symptoms.

I guess things were mostly normal for people in other parts of the country who didn't get their first cases until late March or later. But being one of the first cities cities report a case, things were definitely not being taken lightly here.

See, I wasn’t even aware of that case on Jan 21st (and neither was my DD) until they were on the road. I’m 95% sure that I heard it here on The DIS first. Even then I wasn’t alarmed until the first death which again happened down the street from my DD’s workplace. At that time we were being told “it’s no big deal, it’s the flu, wash your hands.” DD’s friends here in Vegas we’re giving her a hard time for being scared as we hadn’t had a case here yet. She even made a quick weekend trip home. I naively thought they’d *try* to *do* something. Even a “hey, y’all crapstorm incoming.” Things didn’t get real for me until they shut Disneyland down. When they shut VEGAS down I knew it wasn’t a game. We don’t close for anything.

 

[piglet1979]

I never thought it would be easy to stop. I keep seeing a meme going around about how "last year, this was the last normal week and no one knew it."

And I'm over here like, huh? I was freaking out about this virus almost a full 2 MONTHS before mid March. I had a husband living in Asia at the time. People here were already wearing masks and using hand sanitizer and wipes by early February because it seemed inevitable that this thing was going to blow up any time (I live in a VERY predominant Chinese area). We went to Disneyland March 7 for the last time and were FULL ON social distancing and hand sanitizing after every ride. That had been our norm for a few weeks at that point. I had debated long and hard about whether it was safe to visit the parks that last day. We went and I felt okay about it, but I spent the next 14 days worried sick and waiting for symptoms.

I guess things were mostly normal for people in other parts of the country who didn't get their first cases until late March or later. But being one of the first cities cities report a case, things were definitely not being taken lightly here.

We were the same way. We started following it with the first word of it in China. We knew what was coming and had stopped going out to eat or going places in February. We didn't get our first case until March. I almost did not go to a family function because my BIL had traveled to Atlanta right when they started getting cases. He was still gone when we had the get together so we went. But we were still nervous. At work I was cleaning everything for weeks. The week before Ohio school shut down DS had a basketball game. We were so nervous about being there. Stayed as far as possible away from others.

 

[TLSnell1981]

No bombshells here...and the avoid medium to large sized crowds is borderline ridiculous...

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/heal...ctivities-after-covid-19-vaccination-n1259969

Always a day late and a dollar short!

 

[DLgal]

There's a "why bother" mentality out there - if the vaccine doesn't mean we can do normal things (and not normal in terms of family dinners but normal in terms of going to a NFL/MLB/NCAA game or see a concert or let the town festival happen this summer before two years of lost revenue ends it permanently), then what's the point of scrambling to get an appointment and taking even the small risk of side effects/complications? I don't agree with that mindset, but I do see it around me, particularly among the people who didn't have to/couldn't make major adjustments to their daily routines because they needed to see the grandparents because that's their only childcare with the schools closed and they have jobs they still have to show up for every day. If the vaccine isn't a path to getting life's pleasures back, just a way to be safer in the drudgery that we're now calling the "new normal", some people will be less motivated to get it.

I'm not saying the message should be "get the vaccine and throw caution to the wind", but there should be far more emphasis on "this is how we get those things back this year" rather than on the downsides and the need for indefinite (which reads to some like "forever") precautions.

Okay, but like, these vaccines prevent hospitalizations and deaths. I can't believe with how selfish Americans are, that this wouldn't be enough motivation. I don't care how much longer I need to wear a mask. I just don't want to suffer or die with this virus. The masks and resuming "normal" daily life are way down the list for me, personally. It's crazy to me that people are so blase about this virus and it's potential consequences (and the roulette wheel nature of it).