CDC Notifies States, Large Cities To Prepare For Vaccine Distribution As Soon As Late October

[dvcgirl67]

So we may not get much of the Pfizer vaccine until June. Bad news.

i just read that we passed in buying more when Pfizer offered over the summer. So seems like we’ll get 100 million doses over the course of 2020-21....enough for 50 million people. Pfizer has contracts with other countries for the rest of their anticipated vaccines.

 

[Jonfw2]

So we may not get much of the Pfizer vaccine until June. Bad news.

Much of? This is exactly what was agreed upon in the contract.

 

[Jonfw2]

Along with Moderna, that puts us at nearly 100 million people vaccinated by the end of the first quarter which is exactly what was quoted the other day.

 

[tippity]

Because drugs taken regularly and over time require your body to constantly deal with them. A vaccine causes an immune response that largely lies latent until needed. It's not a continuous thing that your body has to deal with. Like, we all know the cumulative effects of too much Tylenol or too much opioid pain medication. You can't get "too much vaccine."

However, long term side effects from a vaccine may not appear for years. That was the point. Several people on this thread are saying they want to wait and see what happens, before they receive the vaccination. What I'm saying is we may not know the side effect profile for a decade.

 

[Jonfw2]

i just read that we passed in buying more when Pfizer offered over the summer. So seems like we’ll get 100 million doses over the course of 2020-21....enough for 50 million people. Pfizer has contracts with other countries for the rest of their anticipated vaccines.

For what it’s worth, both the White House and Pfizer have mentioned “ongoing negotiations” today. I wouldn’t call this a done deal yet.

 

[penn19]

Shaming worked pretty well with cigarette smoking.

Yes because no one smokes anymore. Lessened yes. ERADICATED? No.

 

[Jonfw2]

Yes because no one smokes anymore. Lessened yes. ERADICATED? No.

not everyone needs to get the vaccine to eradicate Covid. Unlike smoking.

 

[penn19]

not everyone needs to get the vaccine to eradicate Covid. Unlike smoking.

Oh. My bad. I thought you had talked about eradicating the virus.

 

[Jonfw2]

Oh. My bad. I thought you had talked about eradicating the virus.

yes. I have.

 

[dvcgirl67]

For what it’s worth, both the White House and Pfizer have mentioned “ongoing negotiations” today. I wouldn’t call this a done deal yet.

Right... totally possible. This is the story I saw earlier.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/12/07/pfizer-vaccine-doses-trump/

 

[Jonfw2]

Happy V Day to our friends in the UK!

 

[wenrob]

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/08/...ere-are-answers-to-some-common-questions.html

 

[dvcgirl67]

I know we made the rounds on this, but thought some might enjoy it.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/08/health/covid-vaccine-mask.html#click=[URL]https://t.co/xDnvDJ7Gyp[/URL]

 

[Jonfw2]

The FDA has issued an executive summary on the Pfizer vax:

“suggests a favorable safety profile, with no specific safety concerns identified that would preclude issuance of an EUA.”

 

[Donaldswife]

New story just posted on USA Today with some of the FDA's findings.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ion-safe-effective/3860002001/?csp=chromepush

 

[Jonfw2]

Interesting note on the Pfizer vax which got absolutely no press until today for some reason: they noted it provided significant protection after ONE dose.

This will be very interesting to follow in England- perhaps their numbers will start to fall sooner than anticipated.

 

[Pea-n-Me]

For several years, healthcare workers have been required to receive the flu vaccine. The opt out is to be to wear face masks throughout the flu season. I can picture the same type of scenario for the COVID vaccine opt out.

That’s what it used to be years ago. Now we must receive the flu vaccine, with few exceptions, and there is no option for mask wearing in its place. Non-compilers, bye bye. As of right now the Covid vaccine will remain optional. The numbers will be interesting to see once there’s a rollout.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Interesting note on the Pfizer vax which got absolutely no press until today for some reason: they noted it provided significant protection after ONE dose.

There seems to be a lot of confusion around that.

FWIW the information I saw was "New data released Tuesday suggests that Pfizer's two-dose coronavirus vaccine begins to work well protecting recipients against COVID-19 within 10 days of the first dose."

Suggests is a precarious word to use and "begins to work well" is ambiguous. Prior information was "Pfizer presented data showing a 95% effectiveness of the vaccine after two doses"

 

[Jonfw2]

There seems to be a lot of confusion around that.

FWIW the information I saw was "New data released Tuesday suggests that Pfizer's two-dose coronavirus vaccine begins to work well protecting recipients against COVID-19 within 10 days of the first dose."

Suggests is a precarious word to use and "begins to work well" is ambiguous. Prior information was "Pfizer presented data showing a 95% effectiveness of the vaccine after two doses"

Okay.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Okay.

What's your issue? You come off sometimes like only you get to comment about things, like only your word is what we must take.

When you say "they noted it provided significant protection after ONE dose." I should be able to respond because from what I'm reading it's still unclear what protection they get especially when their prior data the high end of efficacy was based on 2 doses..you know the level of efficacy you harped about for pages would lead to an extinction of COVID by next fall.

The entire globe and our ability to have any sort of semblance of a life in the near future hinges on how well these vaccines work with our bodies. 1 dose vs 2 doses and the level of protection you get is pretty important considering this is a mass level of vaccination we've never really seen before.