CDC Notifies States, Large Cities To Prepare For Vaccine Distribution As Soon As Late October

[KBoopaloo]

Some positive news about progress on vaccine efficacy for kids.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1352636143892836352

 

[NotUrsula]

My understanding is that the new rule for Florida snowbirds is that they now have to present some kind of proof that they have a permanent part-time residence there and are not just visiting, so a utility bill in their own name, a property-tax bill, etc. It does make sense to allow them to be vaccinated to cut down on the spread and the medical care they would need to receive if they got sick whilst in Florida.

Local authorities seem to have finally wised up that it didn't make sense to waste the resources with no return, by vaccinating tourists who got the shot and immediately left the state. (The Tampa paper had a story today about this, and mentioned a woman who had made appointments for she and her sister to be vaccinated. While the woman was a Florida resident, the sister was not; she planned to go visit her sister in Florida and get vaccinated while there.
The resident sister was notified that one of the appointments would be cancelled, and she was angry about the change in the rules.)

PS: About the rural-first thing, a NP friend told me that a big part of the rationale for that is that rural areas tend to have lost their hospitals and have been forced to transport large numbers of patients, so the idea was to try to lessen the case load in underserved areas, so that the state would be on the hook for fewer expensive emergency medical transport bills for Medicare patients. The lower level of masking compliance in rural areas also plays into the decision.

 

[DLgal]

That's the population dying of COVID, so it makes sense to have them get the vaccine first. The problem is that not enough vaccines are being produced, which was not an unexpected problem. This is year two of COVID. Hopefully, by the fall we're in a better place.

On the other hand, the ultimate goal of any vaccination program is to reduce or stop the spread of a contagion.

The best way to do that is to vaccinate the people "active in the community" and responsible for the majority of spread.

This insistence on vaccinating everyone that is high risk first is kinda shortsighted.

We need a system that gives those people priority access while ALSO making vaccines available to the younger, healthy population. It should be something like a 75/25 split, weighted towards the high risk individuals.

 

[Jonfw2]

The NFL announced 22,000 will be in attendance for the Super Bowl...including 7,500 free tickets for vaccinated medical workers.

 

[RamblingMad]

On the other hand, the ultimate goal of any vaccination program is to reduce or stop the spread of a contagion.

The best way to do that is to vaccinate the people "active in the community" and responsible for the majority of spread.

This insistence on vaccinating everyone that is high risk first is kinda shortsighted.

We need a system that gives those people priority access while ALSO making vaccines available to the younger, healthy population. It should be something like a 75/25 split, weighted towards the high risk individuals.

It makes sense from the perspective of saving lives.

 

[gwynne]

United Airlines just announced they're considering mandatory vaccinations for all employees.

They aren't the only business seriously looking at that policy.
Good news!

 

[Jonfw2]

The CDC just said the US is now vaccinating about 1.7 million people per day.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

They aren't the only business seriously looking at that policy.
Good news!

My husband and I were talking about this the other night. I asked him if he thought his company (an engineering and construction company) would make it mandatory. He said it's possible but right now many of the engineers are still able to work from home. He said though the ones that would be more likely to balk at the requirement would be the construction guys and they can't work from home. His company is very big on safety especially adhering to OSHA so it wouldn't surprise me if they felt requiring the vaccines was needed just on the basis of safety. It's still a long ways off though. If this was Jan 2022 I think the conversations would be more serious as by that point I expect the vaccination situation to be in a different place than it is now.

 

[mom2rtk]

It makes sense from the perspective of saving lives.

And minimizing drain on medical resources.

 

[TLSnell1981]

The CDC just said the US is now vaccinating about 1.7 million people per day.

Hopefully we can continue or increase these numbers.

 

[dvcgirl67]

Between that and the number of likely cases that just never got tested...holy crud.

I know. I think about that a lot. At any given time we've been told that the number of cases is 10 to 25 times higher than what we know. Hopefully that is true to a certain degree. With that immunity and vaccines picking up....hopefully we'll start really seeing the numbers come down more quickly. Two more customers got their first jab today....he's a dentist and the wife works in the office....kind of surprised it took that long, but they're on their way now.

So far my in-laws are still on track to get their first shot on February 3rd. We're on pins and needles with them because of supply issues. My parents still have had no luck getting an appointment.

 

[dvcgirl67]

I just saw Laurie Garrett tweet this article out earlier. Not sure what to think right now. I heard Dr. Fauci speak about the variants yesterday and said that while they had no evidence yet that B-117 (UK variant) was more deadly, he did caution that transmissibility leads to more hospitalizations, and more hospitalization leads to more death. And the U.K. is really getting hit hard right now with hospitals in some areas being overwhelmed. Being swamped like that can contribute to an increase in mortality.

Hearing that it might be 30% more deadly....well, let's hope that's not the case.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...023180-5cd6-11eb-a849-6f9423a75ffd_story.html

 

[skeeter31]

The NFL announced 22,000 will be in attendance for the Super Bowl...including 7,500 free tickets for vaccinated medical workers.

Roughly what the Bucs were allowing during the season. A little over 30% capacity (technically under 25% if you take out the free ticket Medical workers).

 

[Jonfw2]

NY Times is reporting that Pfizer and Moderna are now delivering 12-18 million doses per week to the US.

Folks, we do not have a supply problem.

 

[dvcgirl67]

NY Times is reporting that Pfizer and Moderna are now delivering 12-18 million doses per week to the US.

Folks, we do not have a supply problem.

Bloomberg is reporting that as of today, 19.8 million doses have been delivered in total. That's not a total for people, as some of them have obviously gotten both doses.

My governor just tweeted yesterday that New Jersey is not getting enough supply. He was opening up another one of the six "mega vaccination centers".....which look great with plenty of stations, sharps containers, hand sanitizer....etc. He said all we need now is supply from the federal government. So where is all of this supply going?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1352740218231775234

 

[skeeter31]

NY Times is reporting that Pfizer and Moderna are now delivering 12-18 million doses per week to the US.

Folks, we do not have a supply problem.

That’s still not a lot. Right now a state like NY has been getting 98k doses a week (that was the last quoted number I had seen) which is nothing for a state that populous. 12-18M doses split between 50 states takes the 98k up to 200-300k a week, which is better, but not earth shattering. Once states are finally receiving multiple millions of doses per week we can finally say there isn’t a supply problem.

 

[beckicnm]

The NFL announced 22,000 will be in attendance for the Super Bowl...including 7,500 free tickets for vaccinated medical workers.

Man, I want to know where to get on that list! (Got second dose on Wednesday)

 

[jlwhitney]

That’s still not a lot. Right now a state like NY has been getting 98k doses a week (that was the last quoted number I had seen) which is nothing for a state that populous. 12-18M doses split between 50 states takes the 98k up to 200-300k a week, which is better, but not earth shattering. Once states are finally receiving multiple millions of doses per week we can finally say there isn’t a supply problem.

Not every state will need multiple millions a week either. Yes the big states like CA and FL sure but others not even close.

 

[TLSnell1981]

NY Times is reporting that Pfizer and Moderna are now delivering 12-18 million doses per week to the US.

Folks, we do not have a supply problem.

More like a reporting problem. 1.7M - 2.6M per day? 2-3 time what we’ve been led to believe? Curious to know how off they’ve been with other numbers.

 

[TLSnell1981]

That’s still not a lot. Right now a state like NY has been getting 98k doses a week (that was the last quoted number I had seen) which is nothing for a state that populous. 12-18M doses split between 50 states takes the 98k up to 200-300k a week, which is better, but not earth shattering. Once states are finally receiving multiple millions of doses per week we can finally say there isn’t a supply problem.

J&J will speed things up significantly. We are moving very quickly. Although living in an instant gratification society...probably doesn’t seem that way.