Seahunt
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Besides Lindsay Lohan?
Heck, nothing new with this crew. Bill Schaeffer reported Mason made a "vulgar gesture" in open court!
Sheaffer even saw defense attorney Cheney Mason make a vulgar gesture toward the prosecutor with his arms. "I've not seen anything like this in the 33, 35 years that I've been practicing law," Sheaffer said
dandave I think Cindy knew for a long time about the stealing. Casey had previously stold money from grandma also. Cindy wanted custody and Casey was not going to allow that. I also thought that the possible fight that night was about the nursing home money that Casey used to pay AT&T, but Shirley makes it sound like that was a while prior. So now I wonder if Caylee said something on the way home that ticked Cindy off, who knows? Well, someone knows, but they're not talking or are lying about it
From Shirley P (Cindy's mother) depo (note: the power was out so when they talk about the electric the power company was there working on it):
SP: Well uh, the very first time I missed any money was uhm, thank God.
(Chuckles)
SP: I dont like the cat but uh, I .
SB: You didnt want her to be gone now did you?
SP: Uh, no.
SB: (Laugh.)
SP: Id protect her with my life. Uhm, the first time was on Caylees second birthday.
YM: Uh-hum (affirmative).
SP: That would be about a year ago.
YM: Uh-hum (affirmative).
SP: Okay, I was up there and stayed all night, and my bag and stuff was in the bedroom. Well Casey went to the store and she picked up her cake and a lot of fancy stuff, because they had this great, big fancy Mexican style birthday
YM: Uh-hum (affirmative).
SP: party. You know, a theme. And Im, I didnt miss that until I started checking out my checks and one check was gone. Well the check before that that I wrote was to the utilities company in Mt. Dora. So I went downtown Mt. Dora to see if they had an accidental check stuck to it
YM: Uh-hum (affirmative).
SP: or something. They didnt. So I went to the police station. And the officer found a license on the back of my check.
YM: Hmm.
SP: You know, because I had the cancelled check, or a copy of the cancelled check. And she ran it, and she says. Do you know anybody in Orlando?. And I said,Yeah (affirmative). She says, Do you know a Casey Anthony?. I said, My God, thats my granddaughter. Thats the first thing I know, the first chance I knew that she stole.
YM: Uh-hum (affirmative).
SP: Stole it.
SB: And that was a year ago, right?
SP: That was a year ago
SB: Okay.
SP: on her birthday. And thats the only time there. And then just the Spring
YM: What did
SP: and
YM: what did she write the check for back then do you know?
SP: Fifty-four dollars.
YM: Do you know
SP: At Publix. On Publix. See, she was buying the birthday stuff and evidently she needed the extra money. And instead of asking grandma for some more
money
YM: She just stole your check?
SP: Took the check. I would have gladly given her some money. Not that Im rich, but uh, rather than have somebody do that. And that was my first experience with her (inaudible). I was mad, but I forgave her.
YM: Uh-hum (affirmative).
SP: She apologized and all this. And I said, Dont let it happen again.
YM: Did Cindy know about this?
SP: Yeah (affirmative). Cindy was the only one I told at the time.
YM: Okay.
SP: I, I didnt tell her dad. I didnt tell her brother, uh, or any of my relatives then.
YM: Uh-hum (affirmative).
SP: Then this Spring, a few months ago, (sighs), I dont know, maybe three or four months ago, there was three hundred and fifty-four dollars missing out of my bank
YM: Uh-hum (affirmative).
SP: account. We it was written on AT&T. And it was written on my husbands account that I had to close out after Casey used my check. The bank advised me to change my, you know, to close that account and start a new account.
YM: Is this the one that was just meant for your husband
SP: It was just a
YM: or is that a different account? Which account is this? Which bank?
SP: This is account that Im trying to tell you that uh, thats the one I wrote the birthday, or the, I wrote, I wrote the birthday money on it and she stole the next oh or a check out of the back of my book.
YM: Which, which bank is that? Was that the Bank of America or .
SP: Yeah (affirmative). Up here, yeah (affirmative), it must be Bank of America. The one thats on Donnelly up here in Mt. Dora.
YM: Alright.
SP: I got all my papers for it.
YM: Okay.
SP: And anyway, well this old lady ran off the track.
YM: Thats okay. Three hundred and fifty-four dollars.
SP: Yeah (affirmative). And it came from AT&T.
YM: Uh-hum (affirmative).
SP: I mean thats where (inaudible). Oh, I was telling you. It was written on my old account that they had me close out. And I says, My goodness, thats where my husband has to have his checks deposited. You know hes over in a nursing home
YM: Yeah (affirmative).
SP: and he doesnt sign his checks. I have to be responsible. But as little a check that he gets, like two real small checks, I deposit directly in there.
YM: Uh-hum (affirmative).
SP: And then when it builds up a ways then I transfer it to uh, my checking account to help pay bills with
YM: Uh-hum (affirmative).
SP: because together our social security and little checks is what we live on.
YM: Uh-hum (affirmative).
SP: And anyway, thats why I was mad when I went to the bank. I was mad because that was taken out of there and I didnt know at first
YM: Uh-hum (affirmative).
SP: where it was. But uh, I said, First of all you took it out of an account that Im, or you let it be. come out of an account Im not allowed to even write a check on.
YM: Uh-hum (affirmative).
SP: I cant. I could transfer money when it gets, because hes not allowed to have more than two thousand in his name
YM: Uh-hum (affirmative).
SP: because hes on Medicaid
SB: Right.
SP: helping us to (inaudible).
YM: Sure.
SP: You smelling burned wires? Something, oh, God, I just. Anyway, it uh, (sighs), uh, they let me talk to the long distance manager.
YM: Uh-hum (affirmative).
SP: One of the big, head guys. And I said, when he told me what it was for and everything, I said, Okay. I dont know what you want to do about it. I said, But you can do whatever you want to. If you want to arrest her, arrest her. Press charges.
YM: Now this is to the, you said the bank? You told this to the bank?
SP: I told the guy, yeah (affirmative), I told the immediate guy that was helping me.
YM: Uh-hum (affirmative).
SP: And then the supervisor he had me talk to. Thats my electric company I think.
SB: Yeah (affirmative), theyre checking everything out.
SP: Well, I got a line down in the backyard. Thats what I want to tell them.
SB: Oh, do you? Okay.
JA: You want me to go out there and tell them maam?
SB: Do you want, do you want me to go get them and you can keep talking to
JA: Yeah (affirmative).
SP: Yeah (affirmative). Just tell them the lines
JA: Oh, I got it. I got it.
SP: down in my backyard and to be careful.
JA: Okay.
SP: I dont want them dead.
YM: Okay, well let them know.
(Laugher.)
JA: (Whistles.) Hey sir?
YM: Uh, huh, John will take care of him.
SB: John will take care of it, huh.
SP: Okay. Get me back on track.
YM: Okay.
SP: Well okay, I told the guy ar
YM: Arrest her if you needed to.
SP: if they needed to. And
SB: Maam, can I use this chair?
SP: Yeah (affirmative).
SB: Im sorry.
SP: Its kind of flimsy, but youre not big.
SB: I should be able to sit in it.
YM: (Laughs.)
SP: Yeah (affirmative).
SB: Thank you for the compliment. I appreciate that.
YM: (Laughing.)
SP: Yeah (affirmative). Its an old chair. Uh, anyway .
YM: Arrest her if you need to?
SP: Yeah (affirmative).
YM: Uh-hum (affirmative).
SP: And they never did anything about it. I, I called and told Cindy, I says, and, and Casey was on, no, I e-mailed Casey about it afterwards because I couldnt bring myself to talk to her.
YM: Uh-hum (affirmative).
SP: And uh, she wrote me one, Dear Grandma, Im so sorry. I apologize. Ill come down and do some cleaning for you, and Ill do this and that. I wrote a letter back to her, Casey, I dont want you up here.
YM: Uh-hum (affirmative).
SP: And I havent talked to her since.
YM: Did you tell Cindy what happened?
SP: Uh, yup (affirmative), and I told Cindy that.
YM: How did she take it?
SP: She didnt blame me. She was sorry.
YM: She get upset?
SP: She says, Mom Ill pay you back. I said, No, the bank paid me back. I said,But if the bank wants to arrest her theyre going to because I told them they could. I would have pressed charges. But for Caylees sake, and for Cindys sake, I didnt want to.
YM: When did this happen? When did you find out about it? Do you remember?
What it A the end of April, the beginning of May?
SP: Uhm, hum
YM: June.
SP: Uh, it was between April and May.
YM: Okay. And thats when you this whole conversation and is that, that when you found out, or is that when it was actually written? Do you know?
SP: Uh, remember when she was talking about all them cell phones shes had
YM: Uh-hum (affirmative).
SP: and everything? I think one of mine was the one that paid for some of that. Which heres her story. Thats right. Uhm, she had Cindy tell it to me. Oh, she was working for whoever up around Universal. They got them new phones from AT&T and some way or another the money didnt go through for them so the, the people had to pay for them themselves. Then they were going to pay it back.
YM: Uh-hum (affirmative).
SP: And I says, Well what is, wheres Caseys money? Well its in this locker in the Hard Rock Hotel or wherever. I mean thats some story I never
YM: Hmm.
SP: heard of before. But I mean thats the, Cindy didnt make up the lie. Thats the lie Caseys been telling her.
YM: Uh-hum (affirmative). Did she ever say, did she ever say how much that Ci that Casey actually stole, or, or used without them knowing? She ever give a dollar figure?
SP: No. I just assumed it was a forty-five thousand myself. Thats what I assumed. She never mentioned a figure.
YM: Would you have put it past Casey to do something like that now that you know everything I guess?
SP: Now that I know everything I dont think she blowed (sic) it all at once, but what was she doing all this time? She didnt have an income. She was out all the time. She always had money to, well of course, she never had to spend any on Caylee because Cindy would have. But she spent a lot on Ca uh, Caylee and a lot on herself. I figured thats, maybe she was treating her friends. I dont know.
YM: Well let me, let me ask you this. Do you remember when uh, I guess it must have been after she took them, after Casey took the check from you, remember Cindy went to go see a counselor?
SP: Yeah (affirmative).
YM: And what, what, what did Cindy tell you about that conversation, and then whatd the counselor had told her to do?
SP: She only told me that recently. And she said the coun Cindy was so fraught and everything.
YM: Uh-hum (affirmative).
SP: She told her to kick Caseys *** out, uh-huh.
YM: Uh-hum (affirmative).
SP: And uh, you know, let her go on her own. And Cindy said, I couldnt do that. I cant, you know, I cant leave my granddaughter out on the street and I dont want my daughter out on the street.
YM: Uh-hum (affirmative).
SP: So that was not a, that was not a solution for her. So she quit going to the counselor.
YM: Did they make any suggestions on how uh, uh, and uh, did they ever suggest to Cindy about taking custody of Caylee?
SP: Oh, Cindy had told me a couple times that one of these times she was going to get it. And she told Casey I think pretty close to the time when she ran off I wouldnt be surprised.
YM: Uh-hum (affirmative).
SB: Did, were, did you, did you think that Cindy was serious? She was that
concerned?
SP: Well uh, Cindy would have took that kid in a minute. She would. But .
SB: She was very motherly to Caylee?
SP: Yeah (affirmative). Caylee was her life. And Ill tell you, she would have even let Casey live with her. But she would have had guardianship of, she would have been in charge of Caylee. But she was a good enough mom
YM: Uh-hum (affirmative).
SP: to Casey, regardless of what she did there, that she would have, she would have made a home there for her too. But she wanted to be in charge of Caylee.
YM: Uh-hum (affirmative).
SP: Because she told me one time, she said, If I have to sell this house and get an apartment Ill take care of Caylee.
SP: Cindy tried not to overstep her, but she was happy I think when Casey was gone and she was, she was uh, taking care of her. But I think there was. Uh, sometimes in my head I says to myself if I want to not think that uh, I dont not want to think that Casey, or that Caylee isnt alive, but I just wondered if she hated her mom more than she loved Caylee.
OMG! IT'S A GIRL!! I'M GOING TO HAVE A GRANDDAUGHTER!!
Congrats! Isn't it something, to have news of two babies on this crazy thread! And both Kurby's and your grand are girls!
We'll be here waiting for news!
