Casey Anthony NOT GUILTY & Sentencing Thread 6

[diznygirl]

Holy carp! Porn industry has standards! What is this world coming to!

"Hirsch -- who reached out to Anthony's lawyer yesterday in the hopes of landing a deal -- has now reversed course ... telling TMZ, "It has become obvious to us that Vivid fans, and people in general, want nothing to do with her and that includes a XXX movie."

Hirsch explains, "We were ready to make an offer to Casey to star in one of our feature films. It's clear to me now, however, that there has been an overwhelmingly negative response to our offer and so we've decided to withdraw it."

He adds, "We now believe that we underestimated the emotional response that people are having to the verdict. A movie starring Casey Anthony is not what people want to see."

 

[LisaR]

Just heard it ... and according to her the jurors were "sick to their stomachs" with their verdict ...

WHAT????? The jurors voted NOT GUILTY and now THEY are sick to their stomachs? Am I reading that correctly?

I guess that meant they felt she was not innocent but not guilty of the charges set before them? I hope that is what it means or else I am beyond confused. It also goes totally against what the alternate juror said.

 

[usnuzuloose]

With Baez's opening statement that Caylee drowned and they were both in the backyard, that means Caylee was in the care of her mother at the time who never made a phone call for help. How does a jury not see that? If they believe that is was the accident? So one of the two dispossed of the body, child was still in moms care and by law obligated to call the pollice.

I am surprised there was not a search in the computer for " How long does it take for a body to decompose " . Maybe 55 days meant ( theory here ) that would of been a succuficent time for the body to decompose.

Reguardless there was evidence to charge since Caylee was in Casseys care at the time of the accident. I know she did not drown.

 

[Conservative Hippie]

Just heard it ... and according to her the jurors were "sick to their stomachs" with their verdict ...

I don't feel sorry for them one bit. They could have found her guilty of aggravated manslaughter of a child if they thought the state didn't prove "murder." The jury has said they do not think Casey was responsible in the slightest for Caylee's death. IIRC, the mother who left her child at home alone, and the child was crushed to death by a dresser, was charged with aggravated manslaughter of a child.

 

[CurlyGirl]

Casey Jordan just said "I think if they [jury] really had integrity, they would've sat in those chairs and defended their decision and explained their logic to the masses who really wanted to understand."

I agree wholeheartedly!!! They chose not to do an interview en masse with the media and I think it would've helped with the outrage people are feeling.

I think the jurors were sick to their stomachs because they knew it would be an unpopular verdict.

 

[LisaR]

I understand your frustration. I really do. I don't blame the state. They could only present what they had. The fact that it did not convince the jury is just a fact. It did not convince them that Casey was responsible for murder. Do they believe in their hearts that she had something to do with it? Probably, but they must have had enough doubt to decide to go with a not guilty verdict.

The one thing that bothers me about most of the arguments I hear is that people always ask why Casey didn't respond like a normal person. My thought is because SHE ISN"T NORMAL. Is she a spoiled brat? Seems like it. But, her behavior is way beyond that of a spoiled person. I really don't think we will ever understand what goes on in her mind because her thought process isn't like that of most people.

I'm sorry that this is so upsetting to you and others. If it would make you feel better, I won't post any more. I know that my opinions go against the grain here. Please believe me. I am not happy how this whole thing turned out. I kept hoping that something concrete would be found to settle all the questions and that justice would be served. Sadly, that didn't happen.

I don't think your opinions are irrational. What set me off was a post I read on another thread that ripped into the prosecution. I didn't want to respond on that thread so I came here instead. I don't have a problem with anyone that disagrees with my opinion. I am simply trying to figure out how someone can clearly get away with, at minimum, knowing what happened to her child and not have to answer for it.

 

[Brit17]

Does he say George knew Caylee was dead? According to George he says he did not know she was dead.

According to Tim Miller, he said that he believes George, Cindy & Casey all knew Caylee was not missing and was already dead ... he also said that George pulled out a map and told Casey to just point where Caylee was ... Casey also never shed a tear & Cindy just kept blaming the Sheriff of trying to prove a case against Casey so he could get re-elected ... Tim wanted to pull his team out within 4 days of being there because he knew something was just not quite right with the family & their story, but the sherrif's department asked him to stay and he did ... Tim also said that when he arrived at the house and was waiting to meet George, he heard George say "who's this clown I have to meet from Texas" ...

ETA: corrected what George said about Tim ...

 

[happygirl]

According to Tim Miller, he said that he believes George, Cindy & Casey all knew Caylee was not missing and was already dead ... he also said that George pulled out a map and told Casey to just point where Caylee was ... Casey also never shed a tear & Cindy just kept blaming the Sheriff of trying to prove a case against Casey so he could get re-elected ... Tim wanted to pull his team out within 4 days of being there because he knew something was just not quite right with family & their story, but the sherrif's department asked him to stay and he did ... Tim also said that when he arrived at the house and was waiting to meet George, he heard George say "where is this [fool] from Texas that I'm supposed to meet" - (I think Tim said "fool", but it may have been another word, but it was definitely derogatory towards Tim) ...

I'm sorry I don't believe this guy at all. I don't believe George knew anything about Caylee being dead, I don't belieave he would have thrown her out like the daily trash

 

[LisaR]

Casey Jordan just said "I think if they [jury] really had integrity, they would've sat in those chairs and defended their decision and explained their logic to the masses who really wanted to understand."

I agree wholeheartedly!!! They chose not to do an interview en masse with the media and I think it would've helped with the outrage people are feeling.

I think the jurors were sick to their stomachs because they knew it would be an unpopular verdict.

I didn't have a problem with them not speaking after the verdict if they chose to be anonymous. I have a problem that the very next day they are out SELLING their story. That tells me a lot about them right there.

 

[Brit17]

I'm sorry I don't believe this guy at all. I don't believe George knew anything about Caylee being dead, I don't belieave he would have thrown her out like the daily trash

No, Tim Miller didn't say that George had anything to do with the disposing of the body, he just said that George & Cindy knew that Casey must have done something to Caylee and she was not just "missing" ...

 

[The_Alice]

Don't you just want to look at those jurors and say, "The reason you were sick to your stomachs was because you weren't listening to your conscience, gut, etc."

WTG!

You all deserve star stickers!

 

[CurlyGirl]

With Baez's opening statement that Caylee drowned and they were both in the backyard, that means Caylee was in the care of her mother at the time who never made a phone call for help. How does a jury not see that? If they believe that is was the accident? So one of the two dispossed of the body, child was still in moms care and by law obligated to call the pollice.

I am surprised there was not a search in the computer for " How long does it take for a body to decompose " . Maybe 55 days meant ( theory here ) that would of been a succuficent time for the body to decompose.

Regardless there was evidence to charge since Caylee was in Casseys care at the time of the accident. I know she did not drown.

For the life of me, and for as long as I live, I will never understand:

How a mother would not call 911 and report the accidental drowning of her child.

How a mother would keep her deceased child's body in her trunk as it decomposed. (evidence: strand of hair found with decomp banding in trunk)

How a mother could provide (if not stuff her child into it herself) a plastic laundry bag as her child's coffin. (evidence: bag was sold as a pair - cylinder and square - Caylee was in cylinder one and square one was found at Anthony home).

How a mother would not call her child in as missing for 31 days.

How a mother would allow her child's body to be dumped like garbage.

 

[walden]

I've broken my promise and looked through this thread briefly.

I am not putting down any of my fellow Disers, but I do see a pattern in the people who have voiced that justice was served. It seems that many/most did not follow the case closely or even knew what Casey's charges were. How can you form an opinion then?

I think there are many factors in play here, but the worst is the CSI approach. People think there must be huge amounts of DNA evidence to convict. This is not true. Most cases are nothing more that witness testimony and circumstantial evidence. A juror is supposed to take the evidence and use common sense in forming a verdict.

People are saying, well if they had found Caylee in August, maybe there would have been a conviction. Why? We know it's Caylee...period.

Should any murderer go free because there is no body...or only a skeleton?

Another factor is how social media played a part in this. The case became too well known. People like River Cruz became to crawl up from the sludge. The jurors heard firsthand during the trial how people made money off of this tragedy. Cindy...$100,000+, Casey $200,000+, River Cruz $4,000, etc. What is the lesson there? That the jurors would make money off their story.

For the people who didn't follow the case.....River Cruz (aka Crystal Holloway) became a volunteer during the search for Caylee. She formed a friendship with George Anthony (Caylee's grandfather). He says they were friends, she said to the National Enquirer that they were lovers. She told police they were never romantically involved. She saved every text message, etc from her relationship with the Anthonys. Why would anyone do that? Only someone who wanted a little of the fame and money the Anthony's were attracting.

River Cruz admitted that her story was more attractive to rags like the National Enquirer because of the sexual relationship. Would the NE be interested in a story how a volunteer was friends with George and Cindy? Hardly.

Now we have 12 River Cruzs. If they believed in their verdict they would have come to the free press conference and told their story for FREE. Instead they are interviewing agents and managers and entertaining offers.

Casey going free is a lot more profitable for them then Casey rotting in jail. Had they done the right thing and sent her to prison the story would have died quickly. I doubt many people would want to talk to them past the initial sentencing phase. Now they can talk for weeks, even years about their experience. Everytime Casey does or says something they will be asked to comment. Everytime Casey sells her story...maybe wedding photos, baby pictures...they will be asked their opinions. And everytime they will be paid. Casey is their new cash cow.

Great post and worth repeating.

 

[topolino]

Juror #3: "I did not say she was innocent. I said there was not enough evidence."

 

[Conservative Hippie]

I didn't have a problem with them not speaking after the verdict if they chose to be anonymous. I have a problem that the very next day they are out SELLING their story. That tells me a lot about them right there.

I completely agree. The only thing they were deliberating was how to spend their millions.

 

[Brit17]

Juror #3: "I did not say she was innocent. I said there was not enough evidence."

Maybe they should have taken a closer look IMO ...

 

[canadianjovigirl]

I for one would love to chat with a few of the jurors and see what their response would be to some sane reasonable notions that i believe and think the evidence proves............

 

[walden]

Found an article in the Boston Herald about jury nullification, it has some very good points.

Thanks so much for this post. I referenced this article upthread aways, but did not have time to link -- I saw hard copy.

Hard hitting but accurate. IMO, of course.

 

[CurlyGirl]

Juror #3 said "If you cannot prove what the crime was, you cannot determine what the punishment should be."

Ummm ... deciding punishment wasn't their job!!! The judge never instructed them to consider punishment in the verdict!!

Love how juror #3 wanted to be on this case. Did she see $$ signs?

 

[walden]

Can someone clarify for me please...

Could the jury have found her NOT GUILTY on first (or second) degree murder but GUILTY of a lesser charge like aggravated child abuse or manslaughter?

Yes. Yes. YES!