Car slams into parade in WI

[punkin]

Is that one of his social media posts?

Yes

 

[JaxDad]

And there it is

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I’m not on Twitter, but I see posts here and on news sites all the time, since stringing together tweets is what passes for journalism these days. There is so much hate, yet only certain posters seem to ever get banned from the platform. Guys like this? No problem!

 

[punkin]

In his rap songs, Brooks also bragged that he was a “terrorist” and a “killer in the city,” according to the Sun.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

In his rap songs, Brooks also bragged that he was a “terrorist” and a “killer in the city,” according to the Sun.

You gotta be careful though taking snippets of things from social media and other things. There's a lot that can be construed as either artistic license/inspiration (as gross as it can be) for songs or a one off thing (not meaning literally just not a pattern of a specific ideology).

Consider NWA and other artists who have had some very pointed lyrics.

 

[MakiraMarlena]

as far as can be seen, this dude mowed down people with his SUV because they were in his way, not because he didn't like them. It's still murder

 

[Moliphino]

His brakes failed, right?

Not sure how you got that from what I wrote. He avoided obstacles that would slow him down, nothing altruistic about it.

 

[punkin]

You gotta be careful though taking snippets of things from social media and other things. There's a lot that can be construed as either artistic license/inspiration (as gross as it can be) for songs or a one off thing (not meaning literally just not a pattern of a specific ideology).

Consider NWA and other artists who have had some very pointed lyrics.

I agree. We need to wait for facts to get out. I'm just saying that there might be an argument for domestic terrorism. Also, consider that NWA lyrics didn't lead to mass murder by Dr. Dre.

 

[Keli]

The more his social media posts are coming into the news the more it's looking like this might be a hate crime and possibly domestic terrorism. He seems to have a real problem with Christians, elderly, and white people. He killed 6 people out of the hundreds of potential targets and 5 of the six met that category. The more social media posts that emerge the harder it's getting harder to believe those victims were random.

 

[mylilnikita]

In his rap songs, Brooks also bragged that he was a “terrorist” and a “killer in the city,” according to the Sun.

Lol Here we go: so does that mean Carrie Underwood vandalized a guy’s vehicle in real life because she sang about it?

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

I'm just saying that there might be an argument for domestic terrorism.

Is his usage of that description for the purposes of his rap song or does he truly believe he IS a terrorist doing the work he is supposed to do by harming those. Does him saying he is a killer in the city just for the purposes of a rap song (perhaps trying to get street cred) or does he truly believe his job IS to be a killer in his city. That among other such behaviors, beliefs and actions come together. At the moment media will pick through it all and that's fine. I'm just saying caution.

As for as the NWA that example was because the police song for example called for brutality against police and while censored by the public did not mean all the members who rapped the song would go out and attack members of the police just like the lyrics.

Songs are a tricky gray area in that there's a lot that can be suggested, a lot that can be explicitly written and yet the usage of that has an entirely different meaning and intent. A lot of songs are this way. Not just rap.

 

[JimMIA]

And in New York, today there is another example of the bail and courts systems failing.

A career criminal, who served prison time for weapons charges and is on parole for that crime, who was arrested for additional weapons charges while already on parole in 2019 but has been out on bail since then, walked up to a 13 year-old boy who was walking to school and shot him in the neck.

Here's the comment of the commander of NYPD's Bronx Patrol Bureau:

“So this individual today is on the street, while on parole for a firearm, while out on bail on another firearm. Today he’s walking around the Bronx with a firearm, and we have a 13-year-old boy shot in the neck. And for the grace of God he’s alive here today,” said Kenny Lehr, commanding officer of Patrol Borough, Bronx.

https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2021/11/23/suspect-in-custody-after-13-year-old-shot-in-the-bronx/

 

[MakiraMarlena]

For a hate crime prosecution, there has to be proof that he targeted these specific victims because of their protected characteristics. His social media posts from some time ago aren't going to be sufficient. If they don't find anything contemporaneous with the event to show he had motivation other than he was going to drive through that street and they were in his way, then it won't be prosecuted as a hate crime.

 

[GreatLakes]

This is one of the quotes I was referencing. Old white people were the targets.

He should target whoever taught him grammar and spelling. My God.

 

[Sinder]

Domestic terrorism, hate crime or murder, whatever he’s charged with I hope he is never let out of prison.

 

[JimMIA]

In his rap songs, Brooks also bragged that he was a “terrorist” and a “killer in the city,” according to the Sun.

A lot of these punks try to be "bad" on Twitter and other social media. That's easy...and meaningless.

He surrendered meekly when the police confronted him.

 

[punkin]

He should target whoever taught him grammar and spelling. My God.

That would be justice served!

 

[punkin]

A lot of these punks try to be "bad" on Twitter and other social media. That's easy...and meaningless.

He surrendered meekly when the police confronted him.

He could say whatever he wants in his music and Twitter. That's his first amendment right. However, if he then goes and does exactly what he said he'd do (and I'm not saying that's what happened here necessarily) then everything he wrote becomes evidence of his intent.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

He could say whatever he wants in his music and Twitter. That's his first amendment right. However, if he then goes and does exactly what he said he'd do (and I'm not saying that's what happened here necessarily) then everything he wrote becomes evidence of his intent.

It becomes evidence but does not necessarily mean towards his intent. It would be looked at if his lyrics meant more than just lyrics when they were written and sung.

It would be like a rap song rapping about killing so and so and then that actually happen. The two could absolutely be interconnected and a sorta cause and effect but then again they could just be coincidence but the actual writing and singing of them does not mean the person actually believes in killing people or that if that actually did occur that the prior song had anything to do with it.

What you do and say can be used towards judgement of you though, it's at least part of the whole picture even if in the end it doesn't influence the result.

 

[JimMIA]

However, if he then goes and does exactly what he said he'd do (and I'm not saying that's what happened here necessarily) then everything he wrote becomes evidence of his intent.

Possibly. It depends on how recent the writings were, how closely they correlate with what he actually did, and all of the other facts and evidence in the case.

Quite often, prosecutors are better off leaving stuff like that completely out of the trial simply because it just creates one more thing they have to prove. I doubt if the prosecutors will go there unless there is a very direct connection between something he wrote and the actual events that occurred.

 

[MrsPete]

I believe its all terrorism.

I don't really know the difference between terrorism and plain old killin' people, but it doesn't really matter, does it? Whether he's a terrorist or not, he's a criminal and deserves the height and breadth of what the legal system can throw at him. Whether he's a terrorist or not, those people are just as injured /dead.