CANADA SAYS 100% VACCINATED FOR CRUISES IN 2022

[mullysisters]

Careful with this - we're looking at going to Italy this summer too, but the requirements to get out of Italy right now are crazy - up to 21 days stuck in a government-mandated quarantine hotel if you test positive upon exit. We're cautiously planning under the assumption that rules will change before August, but if they don't, there's no way we'd consider going to Italy right now.

(sorry to hijack)

Yikes! We would do our research but thanks for this. Saying " the whole world is opening up" is not really true.

 

[KGmomoftwins]

What are the odds that some of this changes before our August cruise?…Giving it until May 15 before we make our final decision and jump ship for another or maybe a land based trip….

 

[JAM9842]

What are the odds that some of this changes before our August cruise?…Giving it unit May 15 before we make our final decision and jump ship for another or maybe a land based trip….

I am hoping this changes before May! We are supposed to arrive in Vancouver from Hawaii and we are waiting anxiously to hear what DCL is going to do.

 

[Chrislovesdisney]

Agree that Quarantine in Canada is my main concern. I found this section on the Canada travel restrictions site about Leaving Canada before the end of your 14 day quarantine.

Leaving Canada during your quarantine period
If you do not have symptoms, you may choose to leave Canada before the end of the 14-day quarantine period. However, you must:

• continue to quarantine yourself until your departure date
• wear a mask when you depart Canada
• comply with all regulations for the country of destination

If you are in a federal designated quarantine facility, you must get authorization from a quarantine officer to leave.

Does this mean if you were to test positive onboard but you were asymptomatic you could drive back to US after disembarking, as my understanding is that entering US as a US citizen by car does not require testing proof.
Appreciate any insights/experiences others might have on this.

Is this departure from Canada referring to if you quarantine b/c you were positive, or quarantine b/c you are a close contact (or both)?

 

[Doingitagain]

What are the odds that some of this changes before our August cruise?…Giving it until May 15 before we make our final decision and jump ship for another or maybe a land based trip….

We should know more from Disney by mid-April, since that is when the Paid in Full 30 day deadline hits for the first 7 night Alaska cruises.

 

[DisneyBelle_x]

We should know more from Disney by mid-April, since that is when the Paid in Full 30 day deadline hits for the first 7 night Alaska cruises.

probably start to know more before then although obviously no one knows what will/will not change over the summer but the Wonder arrives in Vancouver 26th April for the 1st Hawaii sailing so I imagine we’ll start to get a better idea in the next couple of weeks what will be happening in regards to testing as those on the San Diego to Vancouver sailing will no doubt told before their PIF date arrives

 

[_auroraborealis_]

I'm not sure PVSA waiver or permanent removal is particularly likely based on the actual progress of bills.

S.3683 - Alaska Tourism Restoration Extension Act was introduced and read 2/17, and referred to committee. It has not received committee hearing to date.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/3683/actions
The corresponding House file was referred to a Subcommittee of Transpo, also not to any form of committee hearing to date.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/6803/all-actions
Earlier, the AK delegation introduced S.2818 - Cruising for Alaska's Workforce Act (9/23/2021). It too was referred to committee, where it is moribund. It has never been reviewed.

Disney can't plan in hopes the committee will get around to it in spring. They're a little over a month until the Wonder goes to Vancouver for the Hawaii runs. They have to plan based on facts on the ground, right now, where Canada is concerned.

 

[Doingitagain]

Disney can't plan in hopes the committee will get around to it in spring. They're a little over a month until the Wonder goes to Vancouver for the Hawaii runs. They have to plan based on facts on the ground, right now, where Canada is concerned.

Agree! I wonder if they can use Seattle report, stop in Victoria and only let a few crew off, then continue on?

 

[DisneyBelle_x]

Agree! I wonder if they can use Seattle report, stop in Victoria and only let a few crew off, then continue on?

what’s the need though? All the rules Canada set are workable for them and although not a simple task having cruising to/from there it’s nothing that probably isn’t being figured out behind the scenes ready to sail as originally planned

 

[MomOTwins]

what’s the need though? All the rules Canada set are workable for them and although not a simple task having cursing to/from there it’s nothing that probably isn’t being figured out behind the scenes ready to sail as originally planned

Yes… I think this is probably true. They showed last summer they were willing to sail the Magic from the UK with only local UK residents as guests—I’m guessing they are likewise willing to sail the Wonder from Vancouver with largely local Canadian guests (as well as a reduced number of US or other international guests who are willing to jump through all the testing hoops and risk a quarantine).

After all some will still travel for this—people who are retired or have flexible employers or just a higher risk tolerance than me. I have to remember there are people with very different willingness levels to put up with these things. For example, I am willing to do DCL’s at-port testing in Florida while others say they won’t cruise until testing is eliminated.

 

[DisneyBelle_x]

Yes… I think this is probably true. They showed last summer they were willing to sail the Magic from the UK with only local UK residents as guests—I’m guessing they are likewise willing to sail the Wonder from Vancouver with largely local Canadian guests (as well as a reduced number of US or other international guests who are willing to jump through all the testing hoops and risk a quarantine).

After all some will still travel for this—people who are retired or have flexible employers or just a higher risk tolerance than me. I have to remember there are people with very different willingness levels to put up with these things. For example, I am willing to do DCL’s at-port testing in Florida while others say they won’t cruise until testing is eliminated.

exactly, those sailings literally went nowhere with all adults having to be vaccinated and everyone tested pre boarding and it still worked, we did a few of them and they were definitely a welcomed bit of magic for us in the UK at the time.
Oh for sure, in fact I am one of those willing to go through all the testing hoops (test to get in to USA And Canada, another pre boarding the cruise and then whatever disney requires of us while on board, we’re coming from the UK for the Vancouver to Hawaii sailing and while it won’t come without stress and worry it’s something I’m prepared to accept it just part of holidays/cruises for the time being and not prepared to give the trip up for a small chance we might test positive at some point but understand not everyone can take the risk

 

[lovingeire]

I do worry a bit about what will happen if we were to test positive. We are all vaxxed and my husband and I will be boosted, but he had COVID a month ago so we are waiting till the 90 days for our boosters. (Although I remained negative and went to school and taught while he was sick.) I'm a teacher and have the luxury of being able to quarantine I suppose, although I don't relish the extra cost and a crummy hotel. I have no clue how my husband's boss would react, but he does work for a small, family company. We are looking at renting a car to drive to Seattle to fly home to avoid that test. I mostly worry about testing positive onboard, most specifically with my youngest who could be a close contact with someone in his pod in the kids club, and having this bucket list vacation be spent in a stateroom categories below what we're paying for. That's more worrisome for me than anything.

 

[tidefan]

I'm not sure PVSA waiver or permanent removal is particularly likely based on the actual progress of bills.

S.3683 - Alaska Tourism Restoration Extension Act was introduced and read 2/17, and referred to committee. It has not received committee hearing to date.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/3683/actions
The corresponding House file was referred to a Subcommittee of Transpo, also not to any form of committee hearing to date.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/6803/all-actions
Earlier, the AK delegation introduced S.2818 - Cruising for Alaska's Workforce Act (9/23/2021). It too was referred to committee, where it is moribund. It has never been reviewed.

Disney can't plan in hopes the committee will get around to it in spring. They're a little over a month until the Wonder goes to Vancouver for the Hawaii runs. They have to plan based on facts on the ground, right now, where Canada is concerned.

But even this would only apply to lines out of Seattle, and since DCL is out of Vancouver, even passage of this wouldn't help...

 

[mndisfam]

Agree that Quarantine in Canada is my main concern. I found this section on the Canada travel restrictions site about Leavinn
Leaving Canada during your quarantine period
If you do not have symptoms, you may choose to leave Canada before the end of the 14-day quarantine period. However, you must:

• continue to quarantine yourself until your departure date
• wear a mask when you depart Canada
• comply with all regulations for the country of destination

If you are in a federal designated quarantine facility, you must get authorization from a quarantine officer to leave.

 

[mndisfam]

I was going to post that about “leaving Canada during your quarantine.” It doesn’t make sense, bcs the language clearly states that cruises must arrange hotels for quarantined passengers, but it also sounds like it’s optional if you can stay at one if you’re asymptomatic? Also, it says they’re exemptions for fully vaccinated travellers.

Very confusing language and I hope it gets cleared up soon. I hope Disney is more forthcoming with what this means then they have been.

 

[randumb0]

I tried to read through the thread but didn't notice if anyone mentioned it. Are they still requiring 100% vaccination?

 

[Disney_Alli]

Canada requires all those 12+ to be vaccinated for cruise travel but notes cruise lines can have tighter restrictions and may require 5+ to be vaccinated.

 

[LiZaArd]

I tried to read through the thread but didn't notice if anyone mentioned it. Are they still requiring 100% vaccination?

Yes DCL requires every vaccine-eligible person 5 years old and older to be fully vaccinated.

 

[tidefan]

Interesting from Carnival, though not necessarily related to Alaska:

As the COVID-19 situation continues to improve, we are now able to relax some of the shore excursion restrictions for unvaccinated guests. Effective immediately, unvaccinated guests are not restricted to “bubble” tours (as had been required) and may now purchase from many of our Carnival shore excursion offerings (some exclusions apply). Please note, however, that unvaccinated guests still can only debark if they have purchased a tour and cannot go ashore in the ports of call on their own.

If the cruise visits a private port of call, such as Half Moon Cay and Princess Cays, unvaccinated guests may go ashore on their own or purchase a Carnival tour.

If your clients have already purchased a “bubble” tour, the tour will be converted to the equivalent of a non-bubble tour. We invite them to visit Carnival.com to review our tour options in the event they wish to make an alternate selection.

We are looking forward to welcoming your clients aboard for a FUN and memorable cruise.

Sincerely,
Carnival Cruise Line

 

[jujubiee4]

I was going to post that about “leaving Canada during your quarantine.” It doesn’t make sense, bcs the language clearly states that cruises must arrange hotels for quarantined passengers, but it also sounds like it’s optional if you can stay at one if you’re asymptomatic? Also, it says they’re exemptions for fully vaccinated travellers.

Very confusing language and I hope it gets cleared up soon. I hope Disney is more forthcoming with what this means then they have been.

That is confusing. So if they are asymptomatic they can go home. "Leave before 14 days". What
does that mean? Day 2 3 4?