Can Saddam get into heaven?

[jimmiej]

We are on polar opposites, and I am finding the answer to "life's questions." If I wasn't, would you pray for me?

I'm sorry. Did I misunderstand you?

I am undecided--haven't been educated enough to make an informed decision, although I know that I don't worship one that would allow Saddam into Heaven.

 

[Buckalew11]

He would have given us what we deserved and been done with us.

I don't know what you may have done that is so terrible, but I sure haven't done anything terrible enough to "deserve" to be "done with".

You may think Jimmiej's Bible is fiction and that is your right, but where the heck do you think Toby's Friend gets her answers? Pulls them out of her hat? Good grief.

She doesn't present it as from the bible. If you read what she wrote, she indicated it was her personal belief. You are right that she likely relies on the bible for guidance, but she also recognizes that not every religion interprets the same book in the same manner.

Try again, batman!

I'll spare you my list of bad deeds.
Oh right...as long as you don't know where the beliefs are coming from you'll tolerate them. And yes, they are her personal beliefs. But everything I read by her on the subject is what I believe & I know where I get my beliefs.

And as for trying again, I don't think so. I think we both know how that would go. But I'm glad to see you have your life questions answered. It brings a good peace. See ya!

 

[Buckalew11]

jimmiej--the "done with" in her quote was for me.

 

[Aidensmom]

I didn't say I didn't care. People should take a good look at yourselves and see who is being killed in your name.

I am really sorry if anyone is being killed in Aidensmom's name. I am really quite confused as to what that means.

I think only God can truly answer the question of where Saddam will go when he dies, as none of us are capable of seeing his heart.

But it is my opinion that in the way I understand God and Heaven, that Saddam will not be there unless he is/has been repentant and asked God to forgive him of his sins.

 

[Disney Doll]

Me too, and I'll try not to vomit. This post is pathetic. Why don't you all ask yourselves if YOU will be getting into Heaven.

Actually, Holly, I ask myself that quite frequently. I try to live my life so that I will spend eternity in Heaven.

As far as the OP's question...my religious belief is such that if Saddam asked God's forgiveness and was sincere and truly desired God's forgiveness, then he would be forgiven and therefore join God i Heaven. However, as another poster said, I don't think he feels he has sinned, and based on my religious beliefs, he would therefore not get into heaven, because he wouldn't ask God's forgiveness because he doesn't feel he's done anything wrong.

This is purely my opinion.

 

[Disney Doll]

Perhaps, but who are we to judge?
If we are gleefully rubbing our hands together thinking of Sadaam going to Hell, who is to say that Bush won't be joining him? He is, afterall, responsible for the deaths of countless innocents. He is probably responsible for more deaths than Sadaam Hussein.

Personally, I'd rather leave the judging to God/ Allah.

I don't recall seeing anyone gleefully rubbing their hands together, but whatever...

It's a bit of a stretch to compare Saddam to President Bush. Saddam was a violent, evil, torturous dictator who had no regard for human life, killed for the "sport" of it etc. I do not believe that Presdient Bush is in that same category.

 

[Disney Doll]

I'll leave the judging up to the court deciding his fate, based upon the evidence presented. Evidence you or I have not seen yet.

Trial by media isn't good enough for me.

But it seems to be good for so many people when it comes to President Bush. He is "tried" in the media daily, and I don't see any outrage over that!!

Interesting...

 

[Disney Doll]

It's easy to judge Sadaam, we all know he is a bad guy. But he isn't the only bad guy out there.

I don't recall anyone syaing that he is the only bad guy out there. He just happens to be the one we are dicussing at the moment.

 

[Disney Doll]

The people that Sadam killed, who did not believe in your God, will therefore be going to hell, correct? If I'm wrong, please educate me.

You know, all answers to all questions are based on our personal belief system or perspective.

God is God. Call Him Allah, call Him Buddah, call Her Mother Earth, call Him Joe for all I care. I am not as concerned about the trip as I am the destination.

The people who Saddam killed will go to Heaven, their version of Heaven, their belief of Heaven, if they lived their life to keep God's/Allah's/Buddha's/Mother Earth's/Joe's word.

OK??? Are you happy ????

 

[Disney Doll]

Did I say "probably?..... I think not. All I know is that I would never want to have to make the tough decisons ANY president has to make. And, for the record, I am not a W. backer. You try being president and let me know if it is easy.

You know Papa, I have to agree with you here. I am not a fan of any politician. But I can't for the life of me imagine why anyone would seek out the Presidency.

It just seems like a whole rash of aggravation.

 

[Disney Doll]

What about the babies he killed who didn't have the capacity to understand that they needed to be forgiven? So, Saddam says "Oh, I'm so sorry--please forgive me" and gets to forever live in peace? There's something wrong with a God that would sent the innocent babies to hell and let Saddam live eternity in his happy place.

There's a "little" more to it than saying "I am so sorry". There's true repentance, and you know it when you feel it. It's a realization which, if you've never experinced it, is impossible to explain.

 

[Disney Doll]

So, perhaps Sadaam should be absolved because being the leader of Iraq is not "easy".

Actually, being a dictator(sorry I don't think he "led" anyone) is probably pretty easy because you don't have to take anyone else into consideration, you don't really have a Constitution to follow, you can kill folks who speak against you(now aren't you glad you didn't live in Iraq under Saddam's regime??).

Yep...I'd say dictator is easier.

 

[Disney Doll]

What aboutTHE BABIES that our own government dropped bombs on in Baghdad during our, oh so tough, "Shock and Awe"? You remember before we were liberating them, we were just slaughtering them. Remember? Remember WMD? Remember Bin Laden? Does God not love Iraqi babies? What God do you worship? Not the same one as me. My God values every human and animal, not just convenient ones.

Truly, people, I don't recall anyone saying anything about any God not loving babies or turning them away from Heaven.

I have to imagine that no matter what you call god, or how you choose to worship god, that you could possibly think that god is looking to turn away innocent babies.

 

[Disney Doll]

jimmij--you can quote your bible, but I believe this book is a work of fiction, so your references don't help me. Sorry.

Based on this opinion, I find it quite interesting that you would join in a discussion about God and Heaven.

Many religions are based on a "Bible" of some sort, not necessarily the Christian version of the Bible, but a set of "rules" nonetheless...the Koran and the Torah come to mind immediately, and not being a religious scholar, I do not know the names of the "Bible equivalents" of any other religions.

Is it only the Christian Bible that you feel is a work of fiction, or is it all Bible type books?

 

[Disney Doll]

We are on polar opposites, and I am finding the answer to "life's questions." If I wasn't, would you pray for me?

Already have, dear. The tone of your posts is distressed, defensive and angry. I always pray for folks who i think need it don't normally "announce" my intention to pray because I don't like to offend people, but, since you asked...I answered.

 

[LakeAriel]

I don't recall seeing anyone gleefully rubbing their hands together, but whatever...

It's a bit of a stretch to compare Saddam to President Bush. Saddam was a violent, evil, torturous dictator who had no regard for human life, killed for the "sport" of it etc. I do not believe that Presdient Bush is in that same category.

Bush misled the nation to be given consent to attack and destroy Iraq. There was no regard for human life, was there?

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