it has been my experience you get what you pay for, when you buy cheep you pay. We learned this the hard way. We buy Eureka tents and if you do some looking you can find them cheaper. We personally have the Eureka Titan its regularly $800.00 but I found it for $350.00. We are in charge of a youth group and we bought Eureka Sunrise, we camped this weekend and since it was dh and I we slept in the smaller ones and stayed dry we were impressed with the amount of rain we had. We also use McNett seam sealers and their tape is awesome it will patch any hole.