Camera Bag

[handicap18]

Questions about the Photopass photog's have come up in the past. There are some very good ones and there also a few that really have no idea.

A while back one member here mentioned that they gave the PP photog their own camera to take a pic of their group. The member had the camera set on manual or aperture priority. When the PP photog got the camera he said, oh no thats not the right setting. And went to change it to one of the preset icon's, night mode I believe. The member asked the PP photog not to change the settings, that it was set correctly. From what I remember of the story the PP photog wasn't to happy about it, but took the pic anyway. IIRC, the PP pic was a bit blury and underexposed and the members pic was nice and sharp and nicely exposed.

One of my experiences included me leaving the lens cap on. The PP photog went to look through the view finder and couldn't see anything. So I told him I left the cap on accidently, just take it off (It was on a cap leesh). Its the same camera your using. I swear he turned my camera around 3 or 4 times and had a look on his face like he had no idea what I was talking about. I had to go over and take it off. then he had the look of,,, oh yeah.

More often than not I get one who is very good. I've talked with a few over the years and many that I've talked to love photography.

My last trip all the PP pics came out just like mine. Nicely exposed and no blury ones. Probably 80 or so. I didn't get any because I the same pic taken with my camera.

 

[ukcatfan]

It was a mix of D70s and D80 last month. It seemed like D80s outside and D70s inside. No clue why though.

Kevin

 

[Groucho]

One of my experiences included me leaving the lens cap on. The PP photog went to look through the view finder and couldn't see anything. So I told him I left the cap on accidently, just take it off (It was on a cap leesh). Its the same camera your using. I swear he turned my camera around 3 or 4 times and had a look on his face like he had no idea what I was talking about. I had to go over and take it off. then he had the look of,,, oh yeah.

More often than not I get one who is very good. I've talked with a few over the years and many that I've talked to love photography.

FWIW, when we got up to have our photo taken with Captain Jack Sparrow in DL and I handed the Photopass photographer my DSLR, she said something like "ahh, now this I know how to use!" - apparently the previous person had a rather confusing camera. So certainly there are ones out there who have an idea of what they're doing. (Though to be fair, there's probably going to be less difference with DSLRs than PnSs - they all pretty much zoom the same and have the shutter button in the same place.)

Although, most of the shots she took had a bit of empty space at the top and right-hand side... which is probably easy to happen if you're quickly using a camera that you're not accustomed to and don't get the viewfinder exactly eyelevel.

 

[esrade]

I know they don't use auto (at least all of them) because the last time I was there, we got our picture taken at sunset at the bridge to the left of Cinderella's Castle. It was tricky lighting since the castle was bathed in light pink but the bridge was pretty shaded. With a flash, she would have gotten us but the castle would have been dark. As it was, she (the photopass photographer) blew us out and the castle looks great. But she did spend about 5-10 minutes taking test pictures and playing around settings.

 

[Marinerbaby]

I talked with quiet a few on our last trip and it seems many do this part time. Quiet a few I talked with were portrait or wedding photographers as another job. Some were very knowledgeable and chatted with me about lenses, lighting, and cameras. While waiting for the parade at MGM I got some great tips from one photographer there. He has his own photography business as well and shoots with a canon except for Disney.

I had another Photographer at the Magic Kingdom say he could take a picture with my camera if I would like but he doesn’t let anyone touch his personal equipment when he comes with his family so he didn’t blame me if I didn’t take him up on it.

I carried around a “white beast” most of the trip so a lot of the Photopass photographers would stop and chat.

 

[orchjoe]

Can someone that has purchased a Photopass CD tell me some information about the pictures that come on it?


1. How many pixels do the pictures come in? (H & W)

2. What is the resolution of each picture? (Pixels/inch)

I am thinking about getting a CD when we go down in Dec.

 

[ukcatfan]

Not sure the answer exactly b/c I have never bought one, but they use Nikon D70s and D80s, so I imagine that they would be the largest that those cameras offer.

Kevin

 

[Groucho]

I believe that you do get the actual photo straight from the camera (presumably JPG), so I would expect that it's a 10mp image.

DPI is thoroughly meaningless with dealing with digital photos like this. You can print it at any size or DPI that you want. Any DPI info attached to the jpg itself is arbitrary.

 

[tyedye]

I think I can answer. Orignial picture dimensions are 2000 x 3008, jpeg images, 2 mb. You always keep the originals and you can crop and add graphics to them on the website before ordering the cd. The only original that was different was our test track pic from on the ride was 4008 x 2672 and still 2 mb. This was the one that is taken in the car right before you go outside and go fast around the track. Hope this helps.

 

[orchjoe]

The resolution of the picture may not matter if you are printing out an 8 ½ X 11. But what if you want to print out something much larger?

My XTI takes a .jpg picture at 3888 X 2592 at 72 Resolution. That means that on a big printer it prints at 54 X 36 inches at 72 DPI. Now on average for some better printers you want a higher resolution (at least 150) to ensure that your image does not get pixilated.

Shooting in a .jpg mode if I wanted to print an image out at 96” X 64” will drop the resolution to 40.5.

At the size of 3008 pixels X 2000 pixels and a resolution of 72 your print can only be 41.778 X 27.778 inches. Even worse at a resolution of 150 you can only print out a picture at 20” X 13” without getting a lot of pixilation.

You might ask why anyone in their right mind print out a picture at 96” X 64” or 8’ by 5. 3’ ? Because I can!

 

[Groucho]

Resolution is important but DPI is not the resolution (at least not in this usage.) They are completely different things - the JPG dimensions (like 2000x3008) is the resolution. DPI is the dots per inch which only makes a difference when you actually print it - and when you do print it, you pick a resolution for your printer and it will interpolate as necessary to print at whichever size you determine. The DPI specified in the JPG file is completely meaningless. You can set it to 5 or 5,000 and it changes nothing.

tyedye, thanks for the info. 2000x3008 is 6mp, so either that was taken back when they were using D70s, or or the D80s are set to 6mp (which would be surprising). 2mp seems like it might be a tad small, perhaps they don't have quality set to the max, perhaps in order to lesser strain on their servers?

 

[orchjoe]

In photoshop CS2 it shows the DPI as resolution:

 

[Groucho]

That's one of the infuriating things about PS. It's targeted towards people who know about working in an actual film photo shop, not to anyone with any knowledge of computers. Trying to shoehorn "DPI" into 100% digital images is just counter-productive - it increases confusion, not diminishes it. It should default to pixels all the time.

The pictures coming off a digital camera are pixels. Nothing more. The only time DPI ever comes into it is when you're choosing what size to print, and resizing a photo in PS in order to achieve a certain DPI (say, 300) is completely unnecessary.

Put it this way: set PS to use pixels as the default measurement, think only in pixels, and when you want to print a picture, just tell whatever you're printing with what the size you want the picture to be. Don't think about DPI at all as it's not important and it's going to be what it's going to be. (Print a high-rez picture small and you'll have a high DPI, print a low-rez picture large and you'll have a small DPI.)

 

[tyedye]

I have a copy of my photopass pics from a cd share on the budget board. All of my originals are 2048 kb. The pics after cropping and adding graphics are that or less except for the test track picture.

When I posted 2 mb I was referring to the size of the image not megapixels. I don't have photoshop so I can't use that. Don't know if all the specifications are kept with the image on the cd or not. I'll upload a few to photobucket and see if it gives any details.

Does that help at all.

 

[orchjoe]

very informative.... I am self taught in photoshop and I know that I don't know everything nor do I try to seem like it (sorry if I come off that way).

When I go to my buddy to have giant stuff printed off he is always telling me it has to be at 150 DPI (to get a less pixalated final picture.)

We have printed off pictures 10' wide for company displays before.

 

[orchjoe]

From Wikipedia:

Confusion between resolution and DPI
The word resolution is frequently used to refer to two different concepts:

The total number of pixels in a digitally stored image. E.G. 5 megapixels.
The number of pixels per linear inch when the image is printed. E.G. 72 DPI.
DPI can only refer to images which are real physical entities, for example images printed onto paper, or displayed on a monitor. A digitally stored image has no real dimentions, measured in inches or centimeters. Therefore it is meaningless to say that a digitally stored image has a resolution of 72 DPI. For example, an image in .JPG format may measure 1000x1000 pixels, and therefore have a resolution of 1 megapixel. If this image were printed onto paper at a size of 4x4 inches, then the printed image would have been printed at 250 DPI. If the image were also printed at a size of 10x10 inches, then that printed image would have been printed at 100 DPI.

 

[tyedye]

There is no exif data when I upload a pic from the cd to photobucket. I would maybe suggest that you contact Disney and ask them directly.

 

[jann1033]

tamrac system 3, holds my xt, with 70-200 attached, plus up to 4 other med. lenses( i could fit my 28-135, 10-17, 100mm , 50mm and probably squeeze in my kit lens as well but then the point was to lighten up) zip in back for books flashlight, zip pocket on top, zip in front for cards, batteries etc plus i can get those attachment things for filters etc that go on the straps...which i might order today....and i can lift it filled plus it has the piggyback slip on thing so it can go on a wheeling suitcase or backpack...so far only thing i am disappointed in was i thought it had a slide pocket for the cards but not on this newer model, oh well... it was $53 so not much more than my canon storage unit. just in case anyone else is looking for a bag...

 

[seashoreCM]

Also notice that the file size in megapixels is not necessarily the same size as the "resolution" in megapixels. There is no formula or predictability to relate the two sizes. So called jpg files are "compressed", which also means that some resolution is smeared over in (usually) inconspicuously spots in the picture, and this results in (and the raison d'etre is) a file size that is less than the horizontal pixel count multiplied by the vertical pixel count.

Camera megapixels is always based on horizontal and vertical pixel counts.

Inb order to relate dpi to camera megapixels, you need to know the dimensions of the finished picture that the dpi measurement is describing.

Digital camera hints: http://members.aol.com/ajaynejr/digicam.htm

 

[ukcatfan]

tyedye, thanks for the info. 2000x3008 is 6mp, so either that was taken back when they were using D70s, or or the D80s are set to 6mp (which would be surprising).

The way back machine has jumped forward! Last month, I saw way more D70s than D80s. All of the indoor photographers had D70s.

Kevin