Calling all Princesses! (2014 Princess half marathon board)

[dewingedpixie]

hubby and I went for a 4 mile run. My time was 10 minute miles. Here's to a 2:10 finish in May so I can get into Corral A or B. No offense but hate constantly running around walkers.

Just know that a 10 minute mile at 4 miles may not commute to a 10 minute mile at 13. Things like hills, wind, and distance impact the time on the mile you run.

If you get into corral A also know that there will be runners who want to complete even faster so if you don't like going around walkers think of them when you place yourself into the corral. You will be in a corral with a large variety of runners including elites. Let them corral up front, having you pace clothes lined is awful for anyone including the elites. It gets worse as you get faster because you want to maintain that pace and effort once you let down its very hard to get it back up and keep it there. Your system is just not designed to roller coaster a heavy hard pace like that no one wants to run AT intervals when they set out to run an endurance race. Its just plain exhausting mentally and physically.

I will situate myself within the corral based on my training times if its where I expect it will be it will be in the fist 4-7 rows of runners far enough back to let the 7 minute milers go but in a pack with the low 8's. The corrals for this race are absolutely silly in my humble opinion. I was shocked to see it was sub 2:15 for the front I've never run a half marathon slower than 2:09, not even the one I ran at the end of a half iron triathlon! I thank Disney for making me feel fast but I know this is not the reality. I have friends who can run a half in about 1:35-1:45 or less. I'm hoping when I come to Tink and Princess I'll be running in that range. I'm actually going to start working with a coach soon to drop my times consistently so that I can hopefully BQ fall 14.

 

[MaMa3Princess]

hubby and I went for a 4 mile run. My time was 10 minute miles. Here's to a 2:10 finish in May so I can get into Corral A or B. No offense but hate constantly running around walkers.

I am a run walker and I corral in B. I stay to the side and always alert people that I'm doing a walking segment. I work hard to maintain a 10-10:30 min pace to qualify for B and there are other Gallowayer who are in B and C. We are just as fast as some runners. Just wanted to let you know you will still see run/walkers in B. Congrats on your time and I hope that you continue to do well. Just know the rate of exhaustion increases dramatically after 10 miles.

 

[McDuck]

Running a 10K tomorrow! I was hoping for a good time to use, but my training fell apart due to illness, so I'll be on the lookout for a new 10K to use for a good time later this year! Hope everyone has a great Easter weekend ahead!

 

[dewingedpixie]

Running a 10K tomorrow! I was hoping for a good time to use, but my training fell apart due to illness, so I'll be on the lookout for a new 10K to use for a good time later this year! Hope everyone has a great Easter weekend ahead!

Good Luck You can do this!

 

[McDuck]

Good Luck You can do this!

Thank you!!!! Planning on picking up some new socks at the Expo, anyway. Found a pair I loved at the WDW Half and now I want more. And will just have fun tomorrow, costuming with my cousins.

 

[livsmom04]

I plan on starting after I head to the allergist on the 9th of April because without being on any kind of allergy medicine I can't run or walk outside. That's what I get for living in the south where it hardly ever snows.

But I am wondering, do you have to stay onsite when you run the PHM or can you stay offsite and drive over to the race? I'm just wondering so we can plan for the money that way. I plan on doing the walk/run on my first half which will be the PHM!

 

[amingione]

I'm planning to do it next year! I had wanted to participate in this year's race, but I broke my foot last year and didn't have enough time to train after it was healed.

I've never done anything longer than a 5K, but I have my first 10K coming up in a few months.

 

[annmarieda]

hubby and I went for a 4 mile run. My time was 10 minute miles. Here's to a 2:10 finish in May so I can get into Corral A or B. No offense but hate constantly running around walkers.

As some have mentioned... yes, you do have to keep in mind that 10 miles is harder than 4 (duh, right?) But... if you think in terms of a 10k being twice the distance of a 5k...seems like twice the work? No... each miles is just a bit harder since you deplete energy stores. That being said... if you train by keeping your pace, but adding a little bit (the rule of thumb is no more than 10%, I think) then you should be able to gain distance without your pace suffering. One more thing to keep in mind... it is a crowded race. If you hate running around walkers... get prepared. I was not and it really threw me and I am not terribly fast. In the weeks leading up to the phm, I had a 4.2 mile run with a pace of 9:26. I had a 6.3 with a 10:10 and my longest run before the phm was an 11.32 with a pace of 10:31. I had a few stops during the race, but my end pace was just over 11. (off hand, I think it was 11:07) I started in C though, so there were a surprising number of walkers right at the start. Had I been in B, maybe there would not have been. I do agree with dewingedpixie... if I had made it to B (which I just missed the cut of for by a minute and I know this because I know exactly the time the trackshack rep put down for me as a finish time) I would have been better to make sure I wasn't near the front. No need for me to get plowed over by a person who runs a 7 or 8 minute mile... There is a balance though... and I hope you can find it. I know having done the phm once now... I will want to try to get into a spot that allows me to run. There were spots that it was so crowded my only option was to walk. (like right at the start)

Good luck to you! And WAY TO GO on your pace!!!!

 

[amingione]

As some have mentioned... yes, you do have to keep in mind that 10 miles is harder than 4 (duh, right?) But... if you think in terms of a 10k being twice the distance of a 5k...seems like twice the work? No... each miles is just a bit harder since you deplete energy stores. That being said... if you train by keeping your pace, but adding a little bit (the rule of thumb is no more than 10%, I think) then you should be able to gain distance without your pace suffering.

It might be useful to look at a pace calculator, like mcmillanrunning.com, to see what the pace would be at a further distance.

I don't know how accurate they are though!

 

[annmarieda]

It might be useful to look at a pace calculator, like mcmillanrunning.com, to see what the pace would be at a further distance.

I don't know how accurate they are though!

I think I was surprised a bit by how accurate it ended up being. I submitted a 10k time to trackshack that according to the site you just referenced would have me with a finish time of 2:28:51. I finished in 2:25:50. So REALLY close to accurate.

 

[Never to old]

Just completed the virtual full worm 10k. I walked the whole thing. According to run keeper my time was 1.32.39 with a average pace of 15.24. This was even with one pottie break and the time running. Almost fast enough to be able to get a picture or two during PHM. It's funny how everything I do is now evaluated against PHM. Just 8 days til my first real practice half marathon in Atlantic City this will give me a better benchmark on how I do.

 

[SuperHappyFunTimes]

I plan on starting after I head to the allergist on the 9th of April because without being on any kind of allergy medicine I can't run or walk outside. That's what I get for living in the south where it hardly ever snows.

But I am wondering, do you have to stay onsite when you run the PHM or can you stay offsite and drive over to the race? I'm just wondering so we can plan for the money that way. I plan on doing the walk/run on my first half which will be the PHM!

Good luck with your allergies, the pollen is pretty awful around here right now.

Staying onsite is a lot more convenient, but not at all necessary. If you stay offsite, you just need to make sure to leave early because they do close some of the roads. I will say it was worth it to me to be able to just get on a bus and let someone else deal with the driving that early in the morning, but I'm a chronic worrier!

 

[SuperHappyFunTimes]

Just completed the virtual full worm 10k. I walked the whole thing. According to run keeper my time was 1.32.39 with a average pace of 15.24. This was even with one pottie break and the time running. Almost fast enough to be able to get a picture or two during PHM. It's funny how everything I do is now evaluated against PHM. Just 8 days til my first real practice half marathon in Atlantic City this will give me a better benchmark on how I do.

Great job!! Good luck on your half next week!!!

 

[fashionista311]

It might be useful to look at a pace calculator, like mcmillanrunning.com, to see what the pace would be at a further distance.

I don't know how accurate they are though!

mcmillan is fairly accurate, to a certain extent. The calculator assumes you are well trained, so it doesn't account for very much fade. But, it's much harder to predict a full marathon time using a half marathon, then using a 10K to predict a half marathon.

There's also the intangibles that the calculator will never be able to predict. The calculator predicts that you are equally as talented at all distances, and that's never the case. I myself struggle with shorter races, and none of my 5K or 10K times predicted a sub-2 half, something I wanted desperately last year. But based on my training, I thought I could do it....and went for it on race day and nailed it. But still, I look at the times I'm supposed to be able to run a 5K and 10K in and LOL. You also have to be mindful of race day conditions. For example, if you try and use a 10K run on a flat, cool day to predict a hot, hilly half marathon, it's likely not going to give you a great result.

 

[livsmom04]

Good luck with your allergies, the pollen is pretty awful around here right now.

Staying onsite is a lot more convenient, but not at all necessary. If you stay offsite, you just need to make sure to leave early because they do close some of the roads. I will say it was worth it to me to be able to just get on a bus and let someone else deal with the driving that early in the morning, but I'm a chronic worrier!

Thanks! I hope they can get the bottom line of everything. My daughter and I moved to a different part of the state and we're suffering now.

I think we might stay somewhere on site after thinking about it. We might see about renting some points from someone or something like that. I do like hopping on a bus and not having to worry about it.

 

[CruiseBoundnKY]

Had my longest race today of 7 miles. Pace avg was 15:16!!! I refuse to be swept!!

Must train harder to build in a potty break. Lol

 

[joanzie72]

The training continues. This past week was awesome since the boys were up at my parents due to spring break so James and I were actually able to run together. Friday I went for a 6 mile run. Kept up my pace. The weather here in Northern WI has been awesome. Tomorrow it is supposed to get cold again I am looking forward to the Fargo Half in just 7 weeks. Next race after that will more likely be the PHM. Unless I decide to do the Woman Rock in Minneapolis. I did that one last year and had so much fun. Sad thing is that it is during Labor Day Weekend.

I am dreading the longer runs because those potty breaks are a must since I drink water on my runs. The city hasn't opened up all the public bathrooms along the routes that I do since we are still a little frozen. lol

 

[mamacate]

Just checking in. I've been MIA since just before PHM 2013. I had a lot of fun and got some great photos (despite the awful marathonfoto debacle). I'm in for my third princess next year. See you all there!

 

[annmarieda]

Entering into my second year of running... and having just did the phm... I am wondering....

What kind of mileage do you all maintain? I went way down last month and it just didn't feel "right" after all the training for the phm. Not exactly like I was cheating... but like it wasn't enough miles. I now am adding a bit more for this month and so my long runs will all be about 7 miles.

I don't plan to do any more half marathons in the near future. Other than some 10ks... the next "big race" will be the ToT 10 miler in the fall. My thought was to just take it up by about a half a mile each month until September....and then just keep doing that until the phm. (unless by some miracle I am able to swing the W&D in which case I would step up the mileage in October) Is this just too many miles to maintain? Will I run the risk of overtraining/injury? Would it be better to maintain a shorter distance and then step up in the months or weeks before? (with a tapper right before the "big" day)

Last year was all about getting to a point where I could run the distance. Starting at couch it was only a matter of "doing more" now I am just not sure where to go....

 

[longhorns2]

I think it depends on your goals. I know plenty of people that maintain the mileage and are always ready for their next half. If you are comfortable with the mileage you could keep it, maybe add in some races here and there to keep your interest

If you don't want to do that find a level that meets whatever goal you have in mind

I drop back until its time to train up again normally. Way back. To 8-9 miles a week!

But after 3 years I'm thinking I want to keep a base of 13-15 miles a week. I was doing 20-24 towards end of training. I don't want to go back that low now that I have time goals in mind for the fall races.