bw sharing buses with S & D! ZZZZZZZ

[Horace Horsecollar]

Originally posted by Maistre Gracey
Actually, I am just a tad confused why there is any transportation charge attached to the resorts.
If a guest purchases a hopper or an annual pass, they have transportation included. The guest does NOT have to be staying at a Disney resort.

Is this not correct?

The WDW Transportation System is a "cost center" -- it doesn't generate direct revenue, but it costs a significant amount of money to operate.

I've always assumed that the WDW transportation operations are funded from multiple sources, including from park admission media (single-day, multi-day, and AP), from Disney hotels, from non-Disney hotels that use the service (Swan & Dolphin), and from DVC operating budgets.

So, while a Park Hopper or AP allows you to use the transportation system, the operations are by no means funded entirely from such admission media -- just as the operations are not funded entirely by the Disney hotels.

When costs are funded from multiple sources, there needs to be a fair and equitable way to allocate the costs. And that raises the question, what is fair and equitable?

Does admission media pay for the monorails and other "backbone" transportation, while the hotels and DVC pay a "fair" portion of the actual costs of the bus loops and boat routes that serve the guests at those lodgings? If so, when a bus loop serves several resorts, how are the costs allocated? By the number of rooms? By the number of beds? By the square footage? By the previous years's actual guest count? By sample counts of actual ridership? I have no idea. (Does anybody know?) Or is there a completely different way in which transportation costs are allocated to the various resorts?

I hope that DVC management carefully scrutinizes the transportation component of our dues every year -- to make sure that DVC resorts don't pay a disproportunate share of the overall transportation budget.

 

[pmcpmc]

Originally posted by Horace Horsecollar

I hope that DVC management carefully scrutinizes the transportation component of our dues every year -- to make sure that DVC resorts don't pay a disproportunate share of the overall transportation budget.

As I said earlier the hope of one Individual.

 

[paults]

I think we're just talking to ourselves on this. Don't think Disney will do anything about the bus service at BWV.

What they should do is take 1or2 of the 3 buses that come right after each other for TL and BB at the bus stop at BW and make them MK buses. I have never seen 1 of these buses filled yet and sometimes nobody gets on any of them but there's always 30 to 40 people waiting for a MK bus that shows up either half full or people rolling out the windows.

Just once I would like management to stand with us waiting for a MK bus for 45 min or more and then stand for the ride over and back. never happen

 

[DeeP]

Originally posted by PKS44
I have written the Condo Association for an explanation--those that keep saying that BWV should cost more because it is bigger are missing the point...IF BWV costs more because it is bigger it should even out on the per point costs because you divide the higher cost over more people---and the idea that BCV keeps costs down and BWV does not is not only unproven as far as I know it is also irrelevant because we are talking about the EXACT same thing being paid for--there are X number of buses that make the S/D/YC/BC/BCV/BWI/BWV route---those buses are the expense -it is not controlled by any one of them and the buses are available to be used exactly equally in terms of number--but actually are less available leaving the BWV because BWV is the last stop and sometimes the bus is already full before it gets to the BWV--so BWV gets shafted this way as well...but even ignoring that injustice to charge more than double per point makes no sense as far as I can tell...I am waiting for Disney or anyone on these boards to give anything like a reasonable explanation for the PER POINT discrepancy...I am still waiting

Very, very valid points. Please post when you hear back from DVC. I am very interested in what they will say.