Butts in the Park

[tinkerbellandeeyor]

I just had another thought, a person you may think is a teenager may in fact be a 20 something year old. Myself and many of my friends dont look our age, we all look about 10 years younger. So for example when we were 24 / 25 many people might have thought we were 15 / 16

So clothes which some may think is inappropriate attire for a 15 / 16 year may in fact be worn by a 20 something year old

True I just turned 32 and the family joke is I will be carded till the day I die

 

[persimmondeb]

She (the wearer of the shorts) may not have realized quite how much was going on. If she did, I would tend to assume teenager since you would expect adults to have a little more sense. If a minor, or frankly even a young adult on mom and dad's dime, you would expect a parent to have said something. I agree it's difficult for Disney to do anything about guests and inappropriate dress, unless it's really egregious.

It's unfortunate, and not because her body is shameful (it's private, but that's not the same thing) or because it's her responsibility to avoid showing anything that might give someone inappropriate thoughts (that's their issue, and men and boys can and should control themselves), but because it lacks dignity, and it seems overtly sexual in a setting where it's unexpected and not very welcome. It's not necessarily any more unsanitary than someone wearing a dress, but it's not a body part you'd expect in a buffet, and a young man dressed the same way wouldn't be any more appropriate.

 

[Gracie09]

I do challenge anyone who thinks short shorts are new to google image search Daisy Duke. I have bathing suits that cover more than her shorts.

 

[tzolkin]

Totally thought this was going to be a thread about cigarette butts...

 

[mom2rtk]

Totally thought this was going to be a thread about cigarette butts...

Aren't you glad you opened it anyway?

 

[branmuffin]

So, I just have to chime in here. I haven't read every single reply in this thread, but enough to get the gist. I noticed this becoming more prevalent a couple of years ago at Disneyland. My 11 yr old DD and I call them "butter biscuits". I don't like it, but there's nothing we can do about it. However, I will not sensor my kids from calling you butter biscuits, nor will I hesitate to ask you to move out of my shot when I am trying to take a nice picture of my kids without your "biscuits" in it.

 

[adelaster]

More than anything else, I find bottoms with little coverage to be unsanitary. There's a thread on here about people who will only use a towel once and ranting about the spread of fecal matter...with that in mind it's pretty gross to see butts in a restaurant. Stuff on seats also may have easier access in.

Definitely don't think there would be an easy or even fair way to enforce a dress code beyond what is established. As others have said, we all have different ideas of what is appropriate. Americans also have a more complex relationship with nudity than some other countries/cultures. Many are more comfortable with a gun in public than nudity-with local laws to support this. Globally, that would not always be the case. While fascinating, it's not an issue that can be solved by a theme park in Florida weather. As long as people don't judge my preference to be covered head to toe-preferably in layers and hoodies, I will try not to judge those whose preference is booty shorts and a bralette. Joking- always try not to judge, but the struggle is real!

TLDR: There's always gonna be butts in Florida!

 

[PrinceOfPeace]

Very interesting thread I found by chance. Having a beautiful young daughter, I have taught her to cover her nether regions even in pools with bike shorts. For me, just because it's fashion doesn't mean it's proper. Modesty is a lost fashion that should never loose style, just like a beautiful smile. It's ok to accentuate the body with style, but no need to dress like a sexpot....especially as a teenager. To each is own I guess. I've also taught my young sons to look away at what some people call clothing as well. So in closing, I can fully understand the OPs frustration. On the other hand the other day I went full mama bear with 2 teenagers who were seriously making out for all to see. I was shocked no one told them anything. Children don't need to be exposed to that nor arses either.

 

[mom2rtk]

Very interesting thread I found by chance. Having a beautiful young daughter, I have taught her to cover her nether regions even in pools with bike shorts. For me, just because it's fashion doesn't mean it's proper. Modesty is a lost fashion that should never loose style, just like a beautiful smile. It's ok to accentuate the body with style, but no need to dress like a sexpot....especially as a teenager. To each is own I guess. I've also taught my young sons to look away at what some people call clothing as well. So in closing, I can fully understand the OPs frustration. On the other hand the other day I went full mama bear with 2 teenagers who were seriously making out for all to see. I was shocked no one told them anything. Children don't need to be exposed to that nor arses either.

You're trying too hard.

 

[Hikergirl]

Very interesting thread I found by chance. Having a beautiful young daughter, I have taught her to cover her nether regions even in pools with bike shorts. For me, just because it's fashion doesn't mean it's proper. Modesty is a lost fashion that should never loose style, just like a beautiful smile. It's ok to accentuate the body with style, but no need to dress like a sexpot....especially as a teenager. To each is own I guess. I've also taught my young sons to look away at what some people call clothing as well. So in closing, I can fully understand the OPs frustration. On the other hand the other day I went full mama bear with 2 teenagers who were seriously making out for all to see. I was shocked no one told them anything. Children don't need to be exposed to that nor arses either.

So when your sons go out in public do they actually physically look away from someone? Shielding your kids seems pretty extreme, and the truth is it doesn't matter what you do, your son's are going to look. They just are going to hide it from you.

 

[maxiesmom]

Very interesting thread I found by chance. Having a beautiful young daughter, I have taught her to cover her nether regions even in pools with bike shorts. For me, just because it's fashion doesn't mean it's proper. Modesty is a lost fashion that should never loose style, just like a beautiful smile. It's ok to accentuate the body with style, but no need to dress like a sexpot....especially as a teenager. To each is own I guess. I've also taught my young sons to look away at what some people call clothing as well. So in closing, I can fully understand the OPs frustration. On the other hand the other day I went full mama bear with 2 teenagers who were seriously making out for all to see. I was shocked no one told them anything. Children don't need to be exposed to that nor arses either.

Wow. Going way too far, but they are your kids to raise. Hopefully you don't end up teaching them to be ashamed of their bodies, or that a girl is asking for it if she dresses a way you deem wrong. Which seems to be what this is all saying. Guys should be able to look and still control themselves.

 

[BigAlsGal]

But if these people started dressing appropriately then who would I be able to laugh at while I'm people watching?

My favorite was watching a girl walking with those shorts on and she kept trying to pull them down and picking them out of her butt ever 10 seconds.

Talk about a losing battle.

 

[Roocatty]

I know what others wear is none of my business but after standing behind a tour group of 15s this summer in the single rider line at test track I did care. There were about 50 of them all wearing black booty shorts that would have fit a toddler and had a little cheek sticking out on the toddler. These were between a victories secret cheekster and a thong. If I never see another butt cheek in my life it will be to soon. It was a nightmare.

 

[Minnesota!]

Meh. Skin is skin. 50% of the population has the same features on their bodies, and 100% of us have butts.

Would I do it? Nope. Would I want my daughter doing it? Nope.

However, like I said, skin is skin.

 

[maxiesmom]

I know what others wear is none of my business but after standing behind a tour group of 15s this summer in the single rider line at test track I did care. There were about 50 of them all wearing black booty shorts that would have fit a toddler and had a little cheek sticking out on the toddler. These were between a victories secret cheekster and a thong. If I never see another butt cheek in my life it will be to soon. It was a nightmare.

But, it is not hard to turn around and not look. Or look at your phone and not the 50 15 year olds. Or talk to whoever was in line next to you.

 

[Roocatty]

But, it is not hard to turn around and not look. Or look at your phone and not the 50 15 year olds. Or talk to whoever was in line next to you.

I wasn't standing there gawking at them. I was with my teenage daughter who was also sick of seeing it. Walking in line you have to look up from the floor or your phone or I would have run into the wall of naked butts. When the line stops you do have to glance up occasionally to see if the line has moved. Im a mother of a teenage girl. I had no interest In gawking at them.

 

[amberpi]

Very interesting thread I found by chance. Having a beautiful young daughter, I have taught her to cover her nether regions even in pools with bike shorts. For me, just because it's fashion doesn't mean it's proper. Modesty is a lost fashion that should never loose style, just like a beautiful smile. It's ok to accentuate the body with style, but no need to dress like a sexpot....especially as a teenager. To each is own I guess. I've also taught my young sons to look away at what some people call clothing as well. So in closing, I can fully understand the OPs frustration. On the other hand the other day I went full mama bear with 2 teenagers who were seriously making out for all to see. I was shocked no one told them anything. Children don't need to be exposed to that nor arses either.

How do you know the ages of the teenagers you "went full mama bear" on? How threatening where you? That's pretty concerning actually. I hope you didn't raise your voice at a perfect stranger. And, even if they were underage? They certainly didn't have to listen to you...I seriously can't imagine how that went down, nor can I ever imagine telling a child who was not under my care how to behave unless they were physically in my space, but otherwise there's tons of crap I'd love not to see in public - diners eating with their mouth open and so loud I can hear it come to mind - but its not my place to tell them to use a napkin, not smack their mouth, whatever.

 

[amberpi]

I wonder if ya'll have seen romphims in the wild...let's just say that religious decisions in childhood are often very easily discerned. And that can be at the coffee shop I'm at right now, or at 8 in the morning. Maybe I'll see some next week at WDW! I'll report back

 

[Veronique]

Modesty is a bu-lls-hit term invented to control women. Unless it's a health reason (which has been established: it is not, considering what is spread in a theme park anyway), dress code are useless. Many culture have women being shirtless (people in France remove their top to tan at the beach) and it doesn't mean anything about the value of the person. If you react intensely to naked teenagers bottoms, instead of blaming the a-s-s, try looking at your reaction and it's source. Have you been raised to slut-shame, like most people born before the 00s? Your own reaction is your responsability. We should certainly not make rules based on random moral preference that not even a majority share...

Teach your kids what you want. But you can't shield them from viewing butt. #Factoflife

 

[PlainJane]

I remember a couple of years ago when I would only see women wearing these sitting at a bar. I thought it was gross (real risk or not). Now it's pretty much everywhere. My husband is so confused by a frequent style around here where the women wear high waisted shorts that exposes half of the derriere, normally paired with a crop top, it's like modest and immodest at the same time. I've explained that Taylor Swift has made covering up one's belly button fashionable again.

It's kind of unclear if this really goes against Disney's policy or not. I don't think they'd want to open the company up to the HuffPost and Yahoo News "body shaming" article that would follow if they ever did enforce the policy. I alway find those articles about high school girls annoyed that they can't wear leggings to school irritating. Once I entered the workforce, men actually had a much stricter (and more uncomfortable) dress code to follow than I did (OTOH: there are other obvious places where there is inequality, that does favor men). (No, I don't think it's body shaming. If you tell a woman she can't wear shorts because she's too big, skinny, pregnant, etc. I consider that to be body shaming. An across the board standard, like a school dress code, is different.)

Also, it seems like it would be hard for security to police this because from the front the shorts don't look any different than regular shorts. The bag checkers are looking at people from the front.