Bush was right

[Charade]

That comparison might carry some weight if Saddam had anything beyond bad breath to threaten people with .

You know he had bad breath, how?

Anyways, while he might not have had WMDs when we arrived, he had them and used them before. Also, SH himself was a human WMD filling mass graves with his own countrymen.

Since hindsight is 20/20, I guess you would prefer he (and then his two nasty sons) stayed in power to continue to fill mass graves and starve his own people.

 

[dcentity2000]

You know he had bad breath, how?

Anyways, while he might not have had WMDs when we arrived, he had them and used them before. Also, SH himself was a human WMD filling mass graves with his own countrymen.

Saddam was an evil man. Perhaps not as evil as they come out there, but still evil nonetheless.

Since hindsight is 20/20, I guess you would prefer he (and then his two nasty sons) stayed in power to continue to fill mass graves and starve his own people.

Nah, common misconception. Pretty much everybody is pleased to see the back of him; the points of contention are pretty much all in the organisation, reasons and intelligence surrounding it.

Just because you are disgusted by the execution of war does not mean you love Saddam, now matter who says it.

Come to think of it, such a misconception could be construed as an attack on the principles of democracy...



Rich::

 

[LakeAriel]

You know he had bad breath, how?

Anyways, while he might not have had WMDs when we arrived, he had them and used them before. Also, SH himself was a human WMD filling mass graves with his own countrymen.

Since hindsight is 20/20, I guess you would prefer he (and then his two nasty sons) stayed in power to continue to fill mass graves and starve his own people.

I like it so much better when WE fill the mass graves and starved them with sanctions. That is OK with you, right??

 

[DawnCt1]

I like it so much better when WE fill the mass graves and starved them with sanctions. That is OK with you, right??

I never understand self hating, self loathing Americans. It puzzles me. The left SCREAMED for sanctions and when they got them, they screamed that they were inhumane. So the "oil for food" program was developed with the most monsterous scandal of corruption in the history of the world. People still didn't get fed but the palaces got built and weapons got shipped. What is it that YOU REALLY WANT??? Unfettered tyrants with nukes in their closet???

 

[dcentity2000]

I never understand self hating, self loathing Americans. It puzzles me. The left SCREAMED for sanctions and when they got them, they screamed that they were inhumane. So the "oil for food" program was developed with the most monsterous scandal of corruption in the history of the world. People still didn't get fed but the palaces got built and weapons got shipped. What is it that YOU REALLY WANT??? Unfettered tyrants with nukes in their closet???

I quote:

Cognitive distortions are logical, but they are not rational. They can create real difficulty with your thinking.

ALL-OR-NOTHING THINKING
You see things in black-and-white categories.

EMOTIONAL REASONING
You assume that your negative emotions necessarily reflect the way things really are: "I feel it, therefore it must be true."

Dawn, I fear that you may be unwittingly distorted in your mode of thought.

You assign less than favourable terms to people whose opinions are different from your own (self hating, self loathing).

You have decided, against all evidence, that the worst things could have happened (weapons got shipped).

You perform something known as an ink drop distortion, clouding your vision by performing all-or-nothing thinking (What is it that YOU REALLY WANT??? Unfettered tyrants with nukes in their closet???).



Now, the logical part.

• People who disagree with republican policy are not "self loathing". They are exercising their democratic duty to scrutinise the shortfallings of the current administration; hence the term, "opposition". Opposition exists where opposition is needed.
• Saddam had no stockpiles of WMDs and was not in the process of making any hydrogen warheads et al.
• Suggesting that people in opposition to Bush were all or mostly bribed is ridiculous to the point of hysterical.
• Many republican politicians called for sanctions and declared that they were functional alongside the democratic party; Condoleeza Rice for one.

Finally, I repeat myself by saying that all parties are glad that Saddam is not longer in power. The opposition is aimed squarely on the execution of the war and the situations surrounding it.

Oh, and multiple accent marks (???) is a sign of desperation; facts are replaced by emotion.



Rich::

 

[DawnCt1]

I quote:

Cognitive distortions are logical, but they are not rational. They can create real difficulty with your thinking.




Dawn, I fear that you may be unwittingly distorted in your mode of thought.

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Rich::

Rich, Save your distorted psychoanalysis for your charges. Its really quite simple; a former VP, a former senator who denegrates his country on foreign soil is a self hating, self loathing American, as are the "blame America first crowd". Its no more complicated than that.

 

[dcentity2000]

Rich, Save your distorted psychoanalysis for your charges. Its really quite simple; a former VP, a former senator who denegrates his country on foreign soil is a self hating, self loathing American, as are the "blame America first crowd". Its no more complicated than that.

Not really. It's basically a case of fear on your behalf - someone in a powerful position has criticised the administration that you support and you are currently doing everything in your power to discredit him totally and utterly.

The fact that his viewpoint is contrary to Bush's is what has you running scared.

WAKE UP!

The world doesn't always agree with you and you can't call them names indefinitely.

I mean, good grief, self loathing? Blame America self crowd? The former is an insult and the latter is a desperate attempt to discredit him through labelling.

My analysis stands - your cognitive abilities are being distorted.



Rich::

 

[DawnCt1]

Not really. It's basically a case of fear on your behalf - someone in a powerful position has criticised the administration that you support and you are currently doing everything in your power to discredit him totally and utterly.

The fact that his viewpoint is contrary to Bush's is what has you running scared.

WAKE UP!

The world doesn't always agree with you and you can't call them names indefinitely.

I mean, good grief, self loathing? Blame America self crowd? The former is an insult and the latter is a desperate attempt to discredit him through labelling.

My analysis stands - your cognitive abilities are being distorted.



Rich::

Let's start with your first assumption; "someone in a powerful position". You couldn't possibly be deluded into thinking that someone could be Algore? He is absolutely impotent, to the point where he is sadly becoming pitiful. If that is your premise, than everything else after that sentence is baseless.

 

[tinkerdorabelle]

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[DawnCt1]

Not really. It's basically a case of fear on your behalf - someone in a powerful position has criticised the administration that you support and you are currently doing everything in your power to discredit him totally and utterly.

The fact that his viewpoint is contrary to Bush's is what has you running scared.

WAKE UP!

The world doesn't always agree with you and you can't call them names indefinitely.

I mean, good grief, self loathing? Blame America self crowd? The former is an insult and the latter is a desperate attempt to discredit him through labelling.

My analysis stands - your cognitive abilities are being distorted.



Rich::

Let's start with your first assumption; "someone in a powerful position". You couldn't possibly be deluded into thinking that someone could be Algore? He is absolutely impotent, to the point where he is sadly becoming pitiful. If that is your premise, than everything else after that sentence is baseless.

 

[dcentity2000]

Let's start with your first assumption; "someone in a powerful position". You couldn't possibly be deluded into thinking that someone could be Algore? He is absolutely impotent, to the point where he is sadly becoming pitiful. If that is your premise, than everything else after that sentence is baseless.

Sorry, fail.

You complained very recently that Al Gore was in a position of power and was, in your eyes, misusing and/or abusing said power.

Actually, that's another cognitive distortion on your part: emotional reasoning. Look it up - it's fascinating.

But yeah, anyway, fail.

[EDIT]: Double post too. whoops...



Rich::

 

[DawnCt1]

Sorry, fail.

You complained very recently that Al Gore was in a position of power and was, in your eyes, misusing said power.

Actually, that's another cognitive distortion on your part: emotional reasoning. Look it up - it's fascinating.

But yeah, anyway, fail.

[EDIT]: Double post too. whoops...



Rich::

The operative word here Rich, is WAS. He 'WAS' senator, he is an Ex Vice President and a failed Presidential candidate. Those who 'know' him know that he has absolutely no credibility. Those who are willing to pay his hefty honorarium are oblivious to his failings. He is a national embarrassment. Now, lets talk about the psychoanalytical meaning of those tiny fonts that you use.....

 

[eclectics]

The operative word here Rich, is WAS. He 'WAS' senator, he is an Ex Vice President and a failed Presidential candidate. Those who 'know' him know that he has absolutely no credibility. Those who are willing to pay his hefty honorarium are oblivious to his failings. He is a national embarrassment. Now, lets talk about the psychoanalytical meaning of those tiny fonts that you use.....

If he has no power or credibility and he is pitful, then WHY are you getting so worked up over his speech? Either people should care about what he says, or they shouldn't. Your inconsistencies are showing again. If you feel he is a national embarrassment all you have to do is simply ignore him! The President certainly has.

 

[DawnCt1]

If he has no power or credibility and he is pitful, then WHY are you getting so worked up over his speech? Either people should care about what he says, or they shouldn't. Your inconsistencies are showing again. If you feel he is a national embarrassment all you have to do is simply ignore him! The President certainly has.

But then, what amusing subject would we all have to talk about?

 

[MossMan]

Dawn, I fear that you may be unwittingly distorted in your mode of thought.

You assign less than favourable terms to people whose opinions are different from your own (self hating, self loathing).

Dcentity, when you disparage Dawn for pointing out how Bush’s critics are acting out of self-hate, you are missing a very important point.

You are making an argument based on a paradigm that was prevalent through the 20th century, but has since fallen into disfavor. You see, dcentity, you are still under the mistaken the impression that each of us are autonomous free-thinking individuals. I’m sorry to be the one to point this out to you, but this is no longer the case.

We Americans have progressed in the last few years and are now part of a greater whole – a collective if you like. As has been evidenced by the massive increase in the size of the federal government since Bush’s election in 2000, Americans no longer owe allegiance to anything other than this collective.

This is a great improvement in our lives. The collective does our thinking for us. Under the watchful eye of our “Illustrious Leader” George Bush, the only thing we have to worry about is how we can help the collective stay safe from those who would do it harm.

This is what Dawn is referencing when she points out the self-haters among us. Criticizing the Illustrious Leader is like criticizing a part of your own body. So disagreeing with the Illustrious Leader is the same as showing hate towards yourself. Remember, the Illustious Leader loves you and wants you to be happy. That’s why he is spying on us without approval from Congress. He’s only doing what’s best for the collective. The least we can do in return is keep our self-hating criticisms to ourselves.

 

[dcentity2000]

The operative word here Rich, is WAS. He 'WAS' senator, he is an Ex Vice President and a failed Presidential candidate. Those who 'know' him know that he has absolutely no credibility.

Isn't it interesting, everyone? Dawn has complained about this man abusing his power yet contests that he doesn't even have that power to abuse! Make up your mind, please! You can't complain about him causing harm if he can't cause harm now can you?

Dichotomy ho.

Those who are willing to pay his hefty honorarium are oblivious to his failings. He is a national embarrassment.

Ah, opinion time - no facts present. Sorry, you're gonna have to shape up if an interweb kick in the nadgers is all you can afford.

Now, lets talk about the psychoanalytical meaning of those tiny fonts that you use.....

That would be a cognitive process (ie. the black box processes). Usually colours are ideal for sorting out personality along with handwriting, but here in cyberspace things are trickier. How we present ourselves is a statement indeed, you're quite right.

Care to venture a guess? It's not that hard... to a trained eye.

[EDIT]: Presuming that you've never learnt anything in this subject short of political and/or pop imagery, I'll help you out. I write in brown ink for preference, black second choice. My signature is a large scrawl and I write with a forward slant.

[EDIT 2]: Oh, and look at the avatar - that's always important. Come to think of it, scan the text for grammar and spelling as well - every little bit helps.

Would you care to advance such information as I have?



Rich::

 

[VSL]

If he has no power or credibility and he is pitful, then WHY are you getting so worked up over his speech? Either people should care about what he says, or they shouldn't. Your inconsistencies are showing again. If you feel he is a national embarrassment all you have to do is simply ignore him! The President certainly has.

I agree.

 

[LakeAriel]

I think we should all pledge to just let this thread die! If we don't, some people are actually going to read Bush was Right and actually believe, like Dawn, that WMD's were found. Which they have not and will not.

 

[TCPluto]

I think we should all pledge to just let this thread die! If we don't, some people are actually going to read Bush was Right and actually believe, like Dawn, that WMD's were found. Which they have not and will not.

Since you are so postive of this from the comfort of your couch in NY, why has the CIA or NSA not contacted you???

I can only hope, maybe, we can get the President to put you on speed dial for all matters of international import.


Who would have thought, that we need only turn to a WDW fan from New York to solve all of the international mysteries that exist? Not me....

 

[TCPluto]

Dichotomy ho. Rich::

Oh my, can you say that here?