bus driver choking got me thinking about Rude guests at WDW...

[A Mickeyfan]

No problem. I wouldn't want to miss the show.

and remember, I will do the same for you.. if I see 15 of those teens on ya, I would not want to ruin the show by yelling for help.. in fact, I think I would take out my camera for that Kodak moment..
I might be nice and let you have some of the prints so you could use them in court for your defense.. since they would be minors and sue you... I am nice that way.....
I use my head and think before I react.. maybe not before I speak sometimes but most always before getting physical.. words and a camera can often work more wonders than the all mighty fist...

 

[Sammie]

As to what has happened lately I think the economic situation is taking it's toll on a lot of people.

I honestly think, just my opinion, that right now there are people going to Disney that financially really don't need to. They have lost a job or going to lose their home and they already had the trip scheduled.

So rather than cancel and deal with their financial situation they go anyway with the attitude they are doing it for the kids or they deserve it.

I think once they get there the guilt over how expensive it is, puts tremendous pressure on them and people are just freaking out.

I also think it is so expensive they think their enjoyment is paramount to everyone elses.

Plus I think many do not plan well for Disney trips, and do not realize that yes even in October it is going to be crowded and you are going to have to wait for buses.

Even on these forums I keep reading about people who are surprised it is crowded.

 

[OhioDisneyDad]

and remember, I will do the same for you.. if I see 15 of those teens on ya, I would not want to ruin the show by yelling for help.. in fact, I think I would take out my camera for that Kodak moment..
I might be nice and let you have some of the prints so you could use them in court for your defense.. since they would be minors and sue you... I am nice that way.....
I use my head and think before I react.. maybe not before I speak sometimes but most always before getting physical.. words and a camera can often work more wonders than the all mighty fist...

Like I said, it's pointless to argue with a woman. Just to make you feel better because you seem to need it, you can have the last word. I have one in mind but I'll keep it to myself.

 

[KellyNY]

Have you been there recently??? Why do you think threads like this even exist????

Yes, a month ago for 9 days. Saw rude behaivor like cutting but missed all the fights. I do not know, maybe they are at some specific locations but I do not do characters.

 

[Sammie]

For all you macho types that are going to kick some butt in a Disney park,, just realize if you do it will be the last time you do.

When you are escorted out, there are two options, either the OCSO meets you and takes you to jail, or you are escorted off Disney property, not just the park, even from your hotel, never to be allowed to return again. Ever.

I am sure that would be a definite Kodak moment for your kids.

 

[KellyNY]

Its amazing to me how many people are happy spending their entire lives being pushed around. How humiliating it must be to be yelled at, or even slapped and just walk away. I have always come to the aid of smaller, weaker people when they are being bullied, perhaps I should not do that anymore, i wouldnt want to offend someone who is being attacked and cowering is their way feeling like they are coming out on top of the situation. Unfortunately there are a few distant relatives in the fam with this outlook in life......but i promise you that (god forbid) when the day comes in this country when something worse than 9/11 happens and chaos rules, these will be the first people knocking at my door begging for help. My response will be.."just walk up to the bad guys and turn the other cheek" Im sure that will help them out!!!

Hm, please do not tell me you wear a cape at night.

 

[A Mickeyfan]

As to what has happened lately I think the economic situation is taking it's toll on a lot of people.

I honestly think, just my opinion, that right now there are people going to Disney that financially really don't need to. They have lost a job or going to lose their home and they already had the trip scheduled.

So rather than cancel and deal with their financial situation they go anyway with the attitude they are doing it for the kids or they deserve it.

I think once they get there the guilt over how expensive it is, puts tremendous pressure on them and people are just freaking out.

I also think it is so expensive they think their enjoyment is paramount to everyone elses.

Plus I think many do not plan well for Disney trips, and do not realize that yes even in October it is going to be crowded and you are going to have to wait for buses.

Even on these forums I keep reading about people who are surprised it is crowded.

Very well stated.. I agree

 

[kmk1180]

Wow...this thread is spiralling into the toilet isn't it?

I think all this thread is now proving, those whine about anything jerks we all see at the parks...yep some of them are here on the boards too.
And they still think they are right about everything yet wrong on just about everything.

(not pointing fingers as anyone, just pointing out.)

 

[anthony2k7]

Have you been there recently??? Why do you think threads like this even exist????

because of violent idiots who think they're above the law?

In the ideal world, those times you've gotten violent and police have never been called will soon run out and you'll be locked up.

However, how the world is acually going, its more likely sooner or later you're gonna get violent with someone with a knife/gun/20 friends. Either way, if it happens at disney I cant see your kids remembering that vacation as a happy one...

 

[marivaid]

Massive terrorist attack, guy saying the F-word in a theme park... yeah, I can see how it's related and warrants the same response.

 

[MelissathePooh]

Its amazing to me how many people are happy spending their entire lives being pushed around. How humiliating it must be to be yelled at, or even slapped and just walk away. I have always come to the aid of smaller, weaker people when they are being bullied, perhaps I should not do that anymore, i wouldnt want to offend someone who is being attacked and cowering is their way feeling like they are coming out on top of the situation. Unfortunately there are a few distant relatives in the fam with this outlook in life......but i promise you that (god forbid) when the day comes in this country when something worse than 9/11 happens and chaos rules, these will be the first people knocking at my door begging for help. My response will be.."just walk up to the bad guys and turn the other cheek" Im sure that will help them out!!!

The problem with your statement, is that for most of the civilized world, unlike the one you live in apparently, it is the aggressor who should be humiliated for acting so rudely and unacceptably. Walking away from someone who has no ability to settle conflict in a rational, non-violent manner is far from humiliating. Its actually quite intelligent and respectable. Hitting another person, slapping another person is never acceptable, it is illegal and should be dealt with accordingly - by legal authorities. Doesn't matter how justified you may feel in doing it - its still illegal and hopefully you'll be charged accordingly. Violence doesn''t solve anything - might make some cowards feel better than someone else, but won't solve anything. Usually it just humiliates the people who are with that person.

 

[anthony2k7]

I use my head and think before I react..

Thats the thing that always seems to be true though isnt it...... those that hit first tend to do so because they dont actually have the brains to think first!

 

[AustinTink]

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[MatersTowing92]

We had a nice rude encounter with a woman. We had a spot on main street to watch the parade and we had been waiting for about 30min with the parade about to us when a woman her husband and young daughter(about 6yo) came and tried to push there way in. My mom sister and 6yo nephew were sitting on the ground with my dad, BIL and myself standing behind and my 4mo nephew asleep in the stroller next to me.

Well we were talking and I felt the stroller bump into my leg and looked over and this woman was shoving our stroller over with my nephew asleep in it. That got me to get mad and yell what do you think your doing. She told me I have to move the stroller so here and her family can sit down and watch the parade. There was no way I was moving the stroller and told her she better not touch that stroller with my nephew sleeping in it again. She then told me I was rude which got everyone around to tell her no she was rude, about 20 people were yelling at her. She then stormed off with her daughter and embarassed husband saying that Americans are rude and they will never come to the US again(she had a english accent)

It actually turned into a good moment because everyone around stood up to this rude woman together. All the adults in the front on the curb let all the little kids come sit in the front while they moved back. It was nice to see so many people that weren't me me and were nice to everyone around them for a change

 

[anthony2k7]

hmmmmm maybe this man on the bus is him j/k

They do sound like they have the same attitude [problem].

 

[A Mickeyfan]

Like I said, it's pointless to argue with a woman. Just to make you feel better because you seem to need it, you can have the last word. I have one in mind but I'll keep it to myself.

Thank you sire..... do you wish your grapes to be seeded or unseeded?

 

[A Mickeyfan]

They do sound like they have the same attitude [problem].

you never know....

 

[A Mickeyfan]

This post was started because a CM was attacked by a rude guest.. some here are commenting on how they would "hit", "fight" ect.. back.. Did anyone notice that the CM actually did not "fight" back but warded off his attacker by trying to stop the jerk from hitting him.. he was pushing the attacker away, trying to get the attacker away from him. He was not punching and slapping him. This is a way to "defend" yourself and not "lower" yourself to the others standards... he held the man off the best he could until security came.. This should be a lesson to all macho brutes out there.. hitting doesn't get you anywhere but thrown out of the park.. just as what happened to the attacker, wife and child..

Did you notice his wife tried to run and hide when security came? She knew what they had done was wrong and didn't want to be thrown out.. She was so fearful of being caught, that she left her child with her outraged husband.. just not to be a part of what was to happen next..

 

[OhioDisneyDad]

Its amazing to me how many people are happy spending their entire lives being pushed around. How humiliating it must be to be yelled at, or even slapped and just walk away. I have always come to the aid of smaller, weaker people when they are being bullied, perhaps I should not do that anymore, i wouldnt want to offend someone who is being attacked and cowering is their way feeling like they are coming out on top of the situation. Unfortunately there are a few distant relatives in the fam with this outlook in life......but i promise you that (god forbid) when the day comes in this country when something worse than 9/11 happens and chaos rules, these will be the first people knocking at my door begging for help. My response will be.."just walk up to the bad guys and turn the other cheek" Im sure that will help them out!!!

Yeah, all these people talk a good game (heck I thought we were going to start singing Kumbaya) until something happens to them. It's funny that in the thread about the bus driver getting choked people were asking why didn't one of the people standing around step in and help. Maybe you folks should head over there and straighten those people out too! Everyone's so scared of "getting involved" that they'd rather just let things happen - after all it's someone else's problem right?

So what I've learned from this thread is that no matter what someone does to you or your family, just use your "indoor voice" and explain to the aggressor the error of their ways. If that doesn't work, just walk away humiliated or yell Fire! (what a nugget of knowledge that was). If that still doesn't work, just stand there and take your beating - you deserve it.

Thus ends today's lesson.

 

[SunnyP4Disney]

You know, I have never had the pleasure of seeing any alpha male, caveman, chest beating guests that some seem to encounter on a regular basis. I've seen shouting and all around rude behavior, but I can honestly say we have never come close to physical blows at the park.

Why do some think this is the cool, "manly" thing to do? A real man doesn't have to use fists.