bus driver choking got me thinking about Rude guests at WDW...

[KellyWasHere]

That would have ended both our trips. But at least I would have WALKED out of WDW.

Yeah. My husband is pretty good at keeping his cool. But if someone smacked him? He would definitely get kicked out of the park for his response.

 

[goofyernmost]

I think the sense of entitlement is out of control outside the world as well. Stops signs are suggestions safe to ignore, children running and climbing in stores is "acceptable" as they are "just kids". Just a few weeks ago we went to a history museum that was taken over by a large group intent on turning it into a gym and knocking people down. When management was approached we were told to come back later as they could not ask the other group to behave.

Daily on this very board are threads, I know the rule is XXXX but I am going to do what I want anyway.

Entitlement is out of control.

Sad to say...I have to agree with you. The reason it is out of control is that people have turned totally spineless. If someone violates their space instead of taking a stand, they write about it on discussion boards and say how bad it is.

Now I'm not blaming the public, really, it is places like Disney and others that are the prime cause of it. The world of "political correctness" has dictated that no one can be spoken too, asked to stop or put in place for fear of legal action or harm to the "magic". I'm sorry but allowing behavior such as listed destroys more magic than any other thing. The fact that usually nothing ever happens to the violators is another very powerful reason for entitlement.

Why not demand...if we do we will get "extras" that otherwise we would not have.

The common thought amongst guest at a park is that they are the only one that paid to get in. Everyone else must have gotten in free. Attacking a bus driver over such a stupid "entitled" reason as..."I have a child and therefore need to be given priority" is just plan stupid. Entitled may not have even been a factor. In the words of Forrest Gump.."Stupid is as stupid does."

 

[OhioDisneyDad]

I hear ya on that one OhioDisneyDad...were you "O" or "D" line? I was a run stopper, not to fast, but I took up alot of space, in both directions!!! At my size i tend to be looking down at most of the world, which isnt a bad thing. Never had the Strongbow, but ill be in WDW in a few short weeks and ill give it a taste.

"O" line! We give a new meaning to "It's a Small World!" On the plus side, I never have a problem seeing a parade and no one ever tries to take my spot! Be sure to try the Strongbow. They also sell Magners cider at Raglan Road in DTD.

 

[hill6]

I am amazed at the "entitlement" that people feel and how rude they are. If this is what they are like in public while on vacation, can you imagine if you had to work with them. What are they like in the privacy of their own home.

 

[livndisney]

Sad to say...I have to agree with you. The reason it is out of control is that people have turned totally spineless. If someone violates their space instead of taking a stand, they write about it on discussion boards and say how bad it is.

Now I'm not blaming the public, really, it is places like Disney and others that are the prime cause of it. The world of "political correctness" has dictated that no one can be spoken too, asked to stop or put in place for fear of legal action or harm to the "magic". I'm sorry but allowing behavior such as listed destroys more magic than any other thing. The fact that usually nothing ever happens to the violators is another very powerful reason for entitlement.

Why not demand...if we do we will get "extras" that otherwise we would not have.

The common thought amongst guest at a park is that they are the only one that paid to get in. Everyone else must have gotten in free. Attacking a bus driver over such a stupid "entitled" reason as..."I have a child and therefore need to be given priority" is just plan stupid. Entitled may not have even been a factor. In the words of Forrest Gump.."Stupid is as stupid does."

The sad but true "little secret"....... my child has been handed more magic from CM's who noticed her manners than these fools could ever demand.

Shhhh don't tell anyone, then EVERYONE will start behaving themselves

 

[minandmick]

It feels as though nobody is teaching their children the golden rule anymore.

"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."

If we as a society started living this out, the sense of entitlement would greatly decrease.

 

[goofyernmost]

That's a child...not an adult. I have been to WDW over 27 times. I have always been courteous, never have been angry, always treated everyone with respect and followed the rules.

I have never been looking for anything extra and that is exactly what I have gotten...nothing. When I have complained about legitimate things all I have ever been told is...Oh, I'm sorry, we'll look into it. Want to know why? Because when I had an issue, I was always polite and quiet.

Does that mean that I advocate going wild about situations. Heck no. My behavior motivation is based on the fact that at the end of the day, I have to live with myself. If I cannot look back and say, well I didn't hurt anyone physically or emotionally today then I am not proud of me. That's not important to everyone but it surely is important to me.

I have been a working stiff all my life. I know what it is like on the receiving end of entitlement tantrums. If it wasn't so frustrating it would actually be funny that civilization has gone to such a low.

 

[livndisney]

It feels as though nobody is teaching their children the golden rule anymore.

"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."

If we as a society started living this out, the sense of entitlement would greatly decrease.

Some of us DO teach our children to behave.


Although after reading some of these posts that message seems to get lost.

 

[OhioDisneyDad]

The forecast calls for "snowflakes"!

 

[livndisney]

The forecast calls for "snowflakes"!

I think I missed something.

A well behaved child is a snowflake?

 

[OhioDisneyDad]

I think I missed something.

A well behaved child is a snowflake?

No, but that's where this thread is going.

 

[suemom2kay]

That thread did remind me of many rude guests at Disney.. there seem to be some that really think just because they have young children that they should have special treatment.. When we all pay money to enter into the parks, we all have the same rights... it doesn't matter if you have a child that wants to see the parade, please don't have him/her push in front of me and my adult children who have been there for an hour waiting in that prime viewing area.. and yes, I do see this often.. and we as adults are suppose to accept this I hate to say it, but we are not. When people go to Disney, many seem to check their manners at the gate.. they feel that they have paid so much for their vacation, that they can do whatever they want to do.... and that is by far from the truth..

I would tend to lean on the side of not only is Disney getting more ill mannered guests, there are more ill mannered people in society.. it is all about me.. me ...me ... me... and I am not referring to Tinkerbell either...

What is really funny about rude people with small children at parades is if they would act politely, people would probably offer to let their children squeeze in front.

DD & I went to Epcot one evening just to watch IllumiNations. We got there a little later than we should have and were essentially second row. We struck up a conversation with other guests. I never asked or demanded for DD (who was 5 at the time) to be in front. But, people in the front row offered her a spot in front of them. It turned a nice moment into a magical moment. I'm so glad I didn't rob myself or more importantly, my daughter of that magical moment by being a rude, entitled bully.

 

[suemom2kay]

You are missing the point with what the PP (me) said, i said, i get physical AFTER i ask them in a very nice way to Cool It, as there are children around. I say it quite clearly and with a smile

And you still could be charged with battery for starting a fight. if someone uses foul language toward you or your children they behaved in an unacceptable manner. If you punch them for it, you behave in a criminal manner.

I can tell you when my DD hears someone curse, she is offended and frightened (if they're yelling). If she sees violence, she's terrified.

 

[plutotek]

You are missing the point with what the PP (me) said, i said, i get physical AFTER i ask them in a very nice way to Cool It, as there are children around. I say it quite clearly and with a smile

No, I understood exactly what you were saying, and reacting physically when someone doesn't respond to your request puts you lower than the person that's offended you, IMO.

 

[OhioDisneyDad]

No, I understood exactly what you were saying, and reacting physically when someone doesn't respond to your request puts you lower than the person that's offended you, IMO.

That's a great theory. Too bad real life isn't as simple. Reminds me of a great quote, "Everyone's a pacifist between wars. It's like being a vegetarian between meals."

 

[minandmick]

Some of us DO teach our children to behave.

That's awesome! It was very "encouraged" in our home when I was growing up.

I have a few kids in our family that need to learn that lesson... it is all about them, them, them. They don't care who they railroad over to get their way. Actually their parents are like that as well, so go figure.

 

[plutotek]

That's a great theory. Too bad real life isn't as simple. Reminds me of a great quote, "Everyone's a pacifist between wars. It's like being a vegetarian between meals."

Actually, it IS that simple, and I'm sorry the elegant simplicity is lost on you.

 

[brerdawg]

I encountered one of the rudest families at WDW last trip. We were outside of the Teacups and WHite Rabbit was there. I approached the character handler and asked her if she was still taking people in her line and she said "Yes you will be the last family. If she had said no I would have just thanked her and moved along. So, while I waited, no less than 5 or 6 families came up and tried to get in line and the CM nicely told them that the line was closed. White Rabbit was going in for the day and her would be back tomorrow. Almost every family argued a bit..."its their last day" ,"white rabbit is his son's favorite"...you get the picture. The CM stood her ground. Then, an extended family came up and tried to get in line...the CM told them no in a nice way...and they ABSOLUTELY FLIPPED OUT ON HER. They screamed and yelled and cursed like truckers. They were dropping F Bombs at the top of their lungs as they walked away...then came back to scream some more. She nicely threatened to have them removed from the park and they moved on...all while dropping hot FBombs as they walked away. It was awful awful awful. My son was crying, my stomach was in knots. Terrible terrible terrible. It definitely put a little damper on our day.

I think the sense of entitlement in the world is just out of control. Too bad I didn't have it on tape for You Tube...

There is no room for those type of folks in WDW. We all get a bit tired and sometimes face a little dissapointment when lines are long or we miss an opportunity to greet a character, but we have to move on. Before long we will find something else magical.

 

[Emagine]

Wow, these stories put mine to shame but mine has a different spin. The one I remember the most is not the ill mannered speaking parents in a line etc but one that involved my son.

This was a few years ago when DS was 5. He has asthma, autism and several sensory issues. While we are much better with that gag reflex with smells and foods today, then he was not. It was one of those trial and error things as he was just beginning to eat more table foods and wanting to explore. We still do not know 110% what set this off.

We went through a mass of people when he started his gagging he does. Smells even used to set him off and you have a minute or less to get him out of the way if he pukes. Well I saw him getting worked up and tried my normal lets leave the area and calm down routine.

My DH was in front of me with my other DS in a stroller and I had my then 5 yr old. He was saying excuse me, we need to get through, please, thank you etc as I was hauling my crying soon to be sick son. We were headed away from the crowd but still going through ppl. We encountered this man who let DH by and comically stomped in front of me. Dh called back, I am holding DS's mouth and trying to get through. I spoke to him I was with my DH and my child was about to be sick. Before I could get it all out he was ranting - you have to say excuse me yada yada - yes I know I should have but this all happened too fast and I did not have enough wits to react in time to this stammering demanding person, focus on where DH is headed and directing him to the bathroom and keep DS in my arms totally calm. Before I could answer and do my own excuse me, never mind I am holding my hand over DS mouth and explaining he is going to be sick - DS did it... all over my hand, arm and the mans shorts and shoes.

Needless to say as I finally got through I heard some not so nice words mixed with laughing behind me. It all happened just so fast but to this day I can see the end result over and over in my head.

 

[OhioDisneyDad]

Actually, it IS that simple, and I'm sorry the elegant simplicity is lost on you.

As long as you think so and enjoy being the world's doormat - have at it.