bus driver choking got me thinking about Rude guests at WDW...

[Disneycrazy!!]

during the past few weeks, I can't even count the number of times I have been cut off in the line. Yesterday at MK, I was waiting next in line between the red ropes to pay for our items. As I begin to walk forward to the counter, some lady walks in front of me and puts her stuff down on the counter. And while walking thru the lines to board a ride, this whole family jumps over multiple rails to butt ahead of everyone else. The mom did it too.
Oh and my favorite is how people in the Haunted Mansion, stampede thru the elevator doors, and run over small kids and push there way thru to get on the ride first. NICE!!!!

 

[LilRonGal]

Yes it is....obviously the person who continues to speak like that AFTER they have been asked not to needs a little more educatoin on how to act in front of children. Teaching my kids not to be passive and not take crap from anyone is a good life lesson.

For me, it would be more of a matter of choosing my battles. Is it appropriate to use bad language at Disney? No, because it is against park rules. But I wouldn't come to blows with someone over it. My son is seven years old and if things turn out well, he'll be eight the next time I take him to WDW, hopefully in June of 2011. He's heard bad language. He's read it. For me, it's not a hot button.

I'd be way more offended watching someone get violent with another person over something like using cuss words. In my opinion, there is standing up for yourself, and then there is just going too far. I'd rather teach my kid a non-violent way to resolve things.

 

[TiggeRx]

LOL, ya, I get those kinds of responses quite often.

So, you're prone to conflict and violence quite often? Interesting.
But, that being said, having a pint to continue a discussion does sound good!

 

[JVelasquez]

I can not believe that those people did that to that the CM, never mind I can! I work in retail and dealing with the public can be difficult and you try to help them out and stay positive but I am astonished at how some people act towards others!

 

[Pongo631]

I respectfully disagree, if you dont react, you are sending a message to people like that that they can act like that to anyone, and they will definelty do it again. Stand up to them, back them down and put doubt in their mind and if you need to get physical, do it, this will more often than not stop their behavior.

I agree and disagree.. I do agree that you should stand up for yourself, not let anybody disrespect you or be negative towards you in any way and it might have a psychological effect on the way they treat other people.. but as far as getting physical, backing them down or putting doubt in their mind.. theres a time and a place for that. And when you're at WDW, in front of women, children and families you're only disrespecting others around and setting a poor example. Especially if you have children. 5 year olds dont want to see their mommy or daddy getting in fist fights on their vacation. It would only ruin everybody else's fun. Not to mention you would probably end up getting kicked out. A good example is the guy who got violent with the bus driver. Did you see the women and children screaming? And he had a child with him.. thats a poor father figure. I'd hate to imagine what that child grows up to. When you're in a family oriented enviornment like that where your actions are only going to affect the people around you its best to take the high road and walk away.. don't demote yourself to a lower level. Now.. if its 3:00AM and you're at a bar, and some guy who's had too much to drink starts makin' moves on your wife...then thats a different story

 

[DCTooTall]

On the Violence is ok but language is not front..... seriously, what do you expect with our societies screwed up priorities.

It's perfectly fine to see people on the news or prime time TV get shot, killed, run over by cars, involved in huge fights, hit over the head with tables/chairs/whatever-is-laying around, etc etc etc....


but god forbid someone says the F word or shows some skin, and suddenly you are going to have the FCC and everyone under the sun crying bloody murder.

 

[plutotek]

Yes it is....obviously the person who continues to speak like that AFTER they have been asked not to needs a little more educatoin on how to act in front of children. Teaching my kids not to be passive and not take crap from anyone is a good life lesson.

With an attitude like that, you must have a lawyer on retainer, because one act would be all it takes. Violence should be defensive, not offensive, if it's necessary at all.

 

[staceyhzoo]

People get out of control at DHS over fastpass for TSM. This just happened to us, but I think he might have gotten what he deserved.
Last week we were on our way to get in line for Woody. It was packed near the FP. We always take 2 strollers since dd and ds fight in side by side. DH and dd were about 25ft in front of ds and myself (ds was pin trading). DS is in a smaller umbrella stroller. A man comes running from the opposite direction thru the crowd. By the time I got to the FP area they cm were covering up a couple of the machines. Crazy man yells "NO!" and jumps over my ds in his stroller, nearly kicking his head. I started yelling did you seriously just jump over my child! I was honestly, screaming at this man with a shirt on that said #1 Dad on it. He turns around and says I'm sorry and then tried to cut in line in a front of a working FP machine. Dh heard me in the crowd and is trying to find me (I'm 5'1). Next thing I know a CM taps me and says would your family like to get on TSM now with no wait? Um Yeah!! We had FP for later on. I turned to look at the crazy man and a CM was speaking to him very seriously. I know they pulled him out of line but I don't know what else happened.
Dh thinks he got removed from the park.
I love TSM as much as the next person, but I would never put a child in danger for a FP. I've read all the threads on bad cm but honestly after 10 days at WDW the only bad behavior we saw was from other guest. There were a lot of tour groups there and the worst issues we saw stemmed from a language barrier-not rudeness.
I saw a woman step in front of a lady in an ECV, there was a group of tweens on a couple rides that acted like idiots since their parents weren't around. Sadly, we ran into them again with their parents (they were so intoxicated they were using the kids to steady themselves) and that made me all the more upset. I understand trying to get the most of your vacation but not at the risk of ruining everyone else.

 

[OhioDisneyDad]

LOL, ya, I get those kinds of responses quite often. As always, im very willing to discuss my way of doing things over a pint wherever I may be, but funny, no one ever shows up!!!!!! What is that saying about the word "assume" ??

I would have thumped him too! Of course I seriously doubt he would have had the gumption to try that with me - just one benefit of being a former football lineman. Speaking of pints, I discovered the Strongbow cider on our last trip at Rose & Crown. How did I miss that in all these trips?!

 

[AustinTink]

I respectfully disagree, if you dont react, you are sending a message to people like that that they can act like that to anyone, and they will definelty do it again. Stand up to them, back them down and put doubt in their mind and if you need to get physical, do it, this will more often than not stop their behavior.

He reacted by getting security to handle it. They were ejected from the park. He decided not to press charges for assault, but the situation was handled properly and to our satisfaction. He didn't need to deck the guy to make sure justice was served.

 

[OhioDisneyDad]

With an attitude like that, you must have a lawyer on retainer, because one act would be all it takes. Violence should be defensive, not offensive, if it's necessary at all.

It would have been defensive - the PP said "Then her husband came over and slapped my husband's face knocking his Raybans across the room, breaking them." Last time I checked, getting slapped gives the slap-ee the right to return fire in kind (and maybe a bit extra to make sure the learning moment is clearly demonstrated! ).

 

[Vivianne]

Too many bullies wearing the mask of a victim. Fitting during halloween season.

Sorry, that's how I feel.

I hope the bus driver is vindicated. I deal with the public and I get my share
of people yelling loudly, demanding something or plain rants each day. It's really
trying and sad for the children since they don't see a good example of
adult behavior. If you disagree with something state your case in an intelligent manner. Intimidation is not the way to go.

 

[AustinTink]

It would have been defensive - the PP said "Then her husband came over and slapped my husband's face knocking his Raybans across the room, breaking them." Last time I checked, getting slapped gives the slap-ee the right to return fire in kind (and maybe a bit extra to make sure the learning moment is clearly demonstrated! ).

Unfortunately, in this day and age you don't know what kind of a weapon some lunatic is going to pull out of his pocket/ jacket/boot. So, why put your family and those all around you at risk. Best to let those in uniform handle it. Like someone said previously, if it was bar at 2am, then sure, go for it. At Disney, surrounded by kids, you can't add fuel to the fire when crazies are involved.

 

[KellyNY]

I must say I saw much more rudeness on my last trip then before. I do not know how to explain that. We were cut in line many times and I am talking about 5 min wait lines. My DD was elbowed by a woman when we were entering actual ride room on Stitch, like she actually needed a better seat, people grabbing middle seats in theaters, holding seats, scream, just madness. I know Disney brings the inner child in each of us but in some it brings inner bully.

 

[fires_grumpy]

DW and I and a good friend of ours where in line to see Donald at the last Friday of Star Wars Weekend. Donald left and Mickey and Disney R2D2 and they took Donald`s spot. Well they then left and this guy went crazy. He stepped out of line and begin screaming at the CM handler that he and his DD had waited for Mickey. He was cussing at the top of his lungs and then told his kids that it was just an F@@@##$ guy in a mouse suit. Then started telling people in line the same thing. The handler was really upset and I think hurt by the guy telling people with there kids that. After we seen Donald I talked to him and I told him that there is a jerk in every crowd. And not to let it get to him. I said we know that was really mickey and not a guy in a suit. I said Disney would never stoop that low to put a guy in a mickey suit. He took my hand and shook my hand and that me.

 

[pxlbarrel]

One time, at AK, my brother and I (both adults) were waiting patiently to get our photo taken with Goofy. As we got closer to the front, we were told we were going to be the last people before Goofy went inside for a rest. Great! Then comes a family with some kids in it and they DEMANDED that we let them have our spot so their kids could get a photo with Goofy. DEMANDED!!! "Disney is for kids so they should get thier photo with Goofy". We refused and held our ground and they grumbled and complained and stared daggers at us while we got the last photo with Goofy.

Now, I'm not a heartless Disneyphile that likes to see disappointed children. I enjoy watching kids interacting with the characters. And if they had come up to us behind the line and, well, done nothing but act disappointed, we would have probably offered them our spot without even them asking. BUT instead, they became entitled, obnoxious boors and any kindness that I may have had for their kids turned to determination that we would get to Goofy before them.

 

[A Mickeyfan]

I must say I saw much more rudeness on my last trip then before. I do not know how to explain that. We were cut in line many times and I am talking about 5 min wait lines. My DD was elbowed by a woman when we were entering actual ride room on Stitch, like she actually needed a better seat, people grabbing middle seats in theaters, holding seats, scream, just madness. I know Disney brings the inner child in each of us but in some it brings inner bully.

and isn't that when the bullying starts.. when they are a child.. so when Disney brings out the child in all of us, unfortunatly it also brings out that bully child..

 

[shalom]

BUT instead, they became entitled, obnoxious boors and any kindness that I may have had for their kids turned to determination that we would get to Goofy before them.

And then they probably came home and told everyone how nasty the people at Disney are. People like that live in an ugly world... of their own creation.

 

[Coach81]

I encountered one of the rudest families at WDW last trip. We were outside of the Teacups and WHite Rabbit was there. I approached the character handler and asked her if she was still taking people in her line and she said "Yes you will be the last family. If she had said no I would have just thanked her and moved along. So, while I waited, no less than 5 or 6 families came up and tried to get in line and the CM nicely told them that the line was closed. White Rabbit was going in for the day and her would be back tomorrow. Almost every family argued a bit..."its their last day" ,"white rabbit is his son's favorite"...you get the picture. The CM stood her ground. Then, an extended family came up and tried to get in line...the CM told them no in a nice way...and they ABSOLUTELY FLIPPED OUT ON HER. They screamed and yelled and cursed like truckers. They were dropping F Bombs at the top of their lungs as they walked away...then came back to scream some more. She nicely threatened to have them removed from the park and they moved on...all while dropping hot FBombs as they walked away. It was awful awful awful. My son was crying, my stomach was in knots. Terrible terrible terrible. It definitely put a little damper on our day.

I think the sense of entitlement in the world is just out of control. Too bad I didn't have it on tape for You Tube...

I thought they had a clip of this???

 

[coconutprincess]

. And not to let it get to him. I said we know that was really mickey and not a guy in a suit. I said Disney would never stoop that low to put a guy in a mickey suit. He took my hand and shook my hand and that me.

That is awesome! What a fantastic response!