Brokeback Mountain

[Disney Doll]

If I want to see a movie about unrequieted love, I will watch Bridges of Madison County again. This has been done before, you know. What makes this so "beautiful" appears to be the two men being in love, and I don't care to have that in my sphere of influence.

Whomever wants to see it, have at it, and I think you might enjoy Bridges of Madison County as well. Same story.

I've seen "Bridges"...good as well, but not quite as effective at portraying the continued love affair.

 

[Disney Doll]

I have no intentions of seeing a movie about two MARRIED (they are married right?) gay cowboys committing adultry with their male lovers. Sorry, but it's not the watching of the "love" scene that bothers me, it's the WHOLE theme of this movie that disturbs me.

What have we come to... Geesh, listening to you all go on about how "beautiful, touching, blah, blah, blah" this movie is really bothers me. Call me what you want, don't really care. What goes on in this movie is SIN plain and simple.... yeah, that's right, I said it... SIN!

You must not go to the movies much, if you don't like movies where "sin" is portrayed.

 

[DisneyDotty]

I have no intentions of seeing a movie about two MARRIED (they are married right?) gay cowboys committing adultry with their male lovers. Sorry, but it's not the watching of the "love" scene that bothers me, it's the WHOLE theme of this movie that disturbs me.

What have we come to... Geesh, listening to you all go on about how "beautiful, touching, blah, blah, blah" this movie is really bothers me. Call me what you want, don't really care. What goes on in this movie is SIN plain and simple.... yeah, that's right, I said it... SIN!

Uh, well, actually they weren't married when the first SIN (gasp!) was committed. Oh, I could go into the whole "let he who is without sin..." thing but I won't.
Sorry if this material is offensive to you...Feel free not to "listen."

 

[dis ms.]

What have we come to... Geesh, listening to you all go on about how "beautiful, touching, blah, blah, blah" this movie is really bothers me.

It's really interesting to me that you forced yourself to open this thread and read our responses, seeing how it bothers you so much. It's kind of like all those people protesting against NBC for airing "The Book of Daniel" (there were *gasp* gay people in that, too). If you don't like something on TV, feel free to change the channel. If you don't like something on an internet board thread, feel free to find another one. I'm sure there are some threads discussing G-rated movies...perhaps those would be more to your liking.

Now, back to our regularly scheduled discussion of this beautiful, touching movie...

 

[sotoalf]

I have no intentions of seeing a movie about two MARRIED (they are married right?) gay cowboys committing adultry with their male lovers. Sorry, but it's not the watching of the "love" scene that bothers me, it's the WHOLE theme of this movie that disturbs me.

What have we come to... Geesh, listening to you all go on about how "beautiful, touching, blah, blah, blah" this movie is really bothers me. Call me what you want, don't really care. What goes on in this movie is SIN plain and simple.... yeah, that's right, I said it... SIN!

I'm relieved you never open books and watch films. We can't have you misunderstanding the differences between life and fiction, and why humans need art.

 

[crz4mm2]

Dh and I saw this yest. I couldn't believe he actually agreed to see it
He was uncomfortable to say the least! I knew he would not like it and he did not. I liked it very much. I thought it was very good and explored a love story.
I don't agree with some of the things that happened (two men cheating on their wives- didn't matter to me who they were cheating with- still wrong) BUT it is a movie and a STORY.

I would like to see it again, with someone other than DH... who kept fidgeting and squirming in his seat!!

 

[Twinprincesses]

You know I have to say if people feel like this movie is a "sin " then simply do not see it. I mean look at all the movies about adultry, drugs, murder etc... but yet people go see them. One movie comes out about "gay cowboys" and people get all up in arms about it. I try not to judge something till I have seen it.

In fact my DH did not really have a desire to see this movie but he went with me and he loved it.

 

[JoeEpcotRocks]

I have no intentions of seeing a movie about two MARRIED (they are married right?) gay cowboys committing adultry with their male lovers. Sorry, but it's not the watching of the "love" scene that bothers me, it's the WHOLE theme of this movie that disturbs me.

What have we come to... Geesh, listening to you all go on about how "beautiful, touching, blah, blah, blah" this movie is really bothers me. Call me what you want, don't really care. What goes on in this movie is SIN plain and simple.... yeah, that's right, I said it... SIN!

ITA

It's amazing how the media and so many people slobber over movies like these. -- and then they speak as if it's some sort of societal "progress."

 

[DisneyDotty]

ITA

It's amazing how the media and so many people slobber over movies like these. -- and then they speak as if it's some sort of societal "progress."

I respectfully disagree. Progress will be when one's sexual orientation is a nonissue.
That's when I'll be "slobbering."

 

[sotoalf]

ITA

It's amazing how the media and so many people slobber over movies like these. -- and then they speak as if it's some sort of societal "progress."

If you've seen the film, how on earth can you conclude that it endorses its characters' behavior? The film shows how the wages of sin first squeezes then suffocates not only the two leads, but their families too.

 

[JoeEpcotRocks]

I respectfully disagree. Progress will be when one's sexual orientation is a nonissue.
That's when I'll be "slobbering."

The lifestyles and morals of society and the individuals within it will always be an issue.

 

[DisneyDotty]

The lifestyles and morals of society and the individuals within it will always be an issue.

True--how we treat other individuals is a moral issue within most religious philosophies...

 

[JoeEpcotRocks]

True--how we treat other individuals is a moral issue within most religious philosophies...

And our loving God wants what's best for his children and provides us the moral rules to live our life by. When a brother stumbles, we are to help him up, not condone his vices.

 

[DisneyDotty]

And our loving God wants what's best for his children and provides us the moral rules to live our life by. When a brother stumbles, we are to help him up, not condone his vices.

Ahh, but what your religion considers to be a vice may not be the case in mine...
Have you seen the movie, Joe? There is a very redeeming father/daughter relationship there in addition to what everyone is harping about--it's not all about the sex.

 

[JoeEpcotRocks]

Ahh, but what your religion considers to be a vice may not be the case in mine...
Have you seen the movie, Joe? There is a very redeeming father/daughter relationship there in addition to what everyone is harping about--it's not all about the sex.

So there are religions where homosexuality and adultry are not vices? In Hollywood maybe.

No, it's not my type of cowboy movie.

 

[DisneyDotty]

So there are religions where homosexuality and adultry are not vices? In Hollywood maybe.

Nope, nowhere near Hollywood.

No, it's not my type of cowboy movie.

I see. So you haven't seen the movie.
Never mind.

 

[Mercy]

ITA

It's amazing how the media and so many people slobber over movies like these. -- and then they speak as if it's some sort of societal "progress."

Thanks Joe for backing me up I'm just so tired of the if it feels good-do it/I'm not hurting you attitude I can't stand it! This whole PC thing has gotten out of hand, I am entitled to my opinions of this movie just like everyone else. No, I won't see it, actually I don't see many movies at all because I don't like/agree with the themes. Right is right and wrong is wrong, but that is the problem... those lines have become blurred. There is no right or wrong, only what is right in one's own eyes.

 

[Disney Doll]

Hard to "discuss" a movie with folks who haven't seen it, and are therefore basing their opinions on what they've "heard" or "think" it's about.

Actually, the movie is very much so about the price one pays for being different in society. In this case, it was two gay men. It could just as easily have been a mixed race couple, two women, a mixed ethnicity couple, a widow who has to take a "traditionally male" job in order to support her family, a male who takes a "traditionally female" job. It was far less about homosexuality as it was about intolerance, the ignorance of certain people who fear what they don't know and therefore criminalize it or make it a "sin"and the price those ignoirant people make other pay because of their ignorance.

BTW, the God I believe in loves everybody, regardless of their sin. And I think He hates the sins of superiority and judgementalness most of all.

 

[JoeEpcotRocks]

Thanks Joe for backing me up I'm just so tired of the if it feels good-do it/I'm not hurting you attitude I can't stand it! This whole PC thing has gotten out of hand, I am entitled to my opinions of this movie just like everyone else. No, I won't see it, actually I don't see many movies at all because I don't like/agree with the themes. Right is right and wrong is wrong, but that is the problem... those lines have become blurred. There is no right or wrong, only what is right in one's own eyes.

That's why so many want to push God (or G-d) out of the picture. They do not want to be accountable to anyone, but want "feels good-do it/I'm not hurting you" to be the standard. Many want the lines to blurred, so they can push the standards lower. Of course, if we disagree, many say we are being "judgmental."

Movies like this don't offend me; they sadden me, especially with their "isn't it great that society is becoming much more acceptable of (name a vice)" propaganda.

 

[JoeEpcotRocks]

Hard to "discuss" a movie with folks who haven't seen it, and are therefore basing their opinions on what they've "heard" or "think" it's about.

Actually, the movie is very much so about the price one pays for being different in society. In this case, it was two gay men. It could just as easily have been a mixed race couple, two women, a mixed ethnicity couple, a widow who has to take a "traditionally male" job in order to support her family, a male who takes a "traditionally female" job. It was far less about homosexuality as it was about intolerance, the ignorance of certain people who fear what they don't know and therefore criminalize it or make it a "sin"and the price those ignoirant people make other pay because of their ignorance.

BTW, the God I believe in loves everybody, regardless of their sin. And I think He hates the sins of superiority and judgementalness most of all.

Oh, its about the price one pays for being "different" and all the "intolerence" and ignorance."

There's a BIG difference between "homosexuality and adultry" versus traditional job roles or mixed race or ethnic couples.

Yes, God loves us unconditionally (and give us rules for our own benefit). He has already stated what is "sin."