Brazilian Teenagers????

[Tiger Fan]

The only time I lost it was while standing in line to get an autograph with my then 6 year old grandson. (Back when the characters visited the resorts). When his turn arrived, several of the girls just shoved my little grandson out of their way and pounced on the character. I walked up to them and told them to move and where the line was. They huffed and stomped off.

This was the same problem we had. They tried to imply they didn't speak English and thus didn't understand the system of queing up, but we didn't buy it. My DD was around 5 at the time and was very upset that these bigger kids were so rude and yet she knew the importance of lining up and waiting your turn. We were very firm and made sure they moved to the back of the line. I just won't stand for you messing with my kid
Lisa
Tiger Fan

 

[holcomb-mania]

Maybe we could lobby Disney to build a park in Rio or Sao Paolo. Maybe even in Santiago, Chile. I loves me some Santiago.

 

[silvio]

I am 28 years old and I am brazilian. I love Disneyworld and I´ve been there several times. I fact, I have to admit that I avoid brazilian groups while I am in the USA. I just hate the way they behave in theme parks, airports, malls, restaurants, etc.

When I was a teenager, I used to be part of those groups. Let me try to explain what I feel:

In Brazil, we have a lot of wonderful places to go, especially beaches, but nothing like WDW. Our themeparks are very poor or almost non-existant. The dream of most brazilian teenagers, since they are little kids is visiting WDW. Usually, at the age of 15, their parents give them this present, a trip to WDW. They become very excited because it is their first international trip, to a magical place, without their parents. Since everything is happening for the first time, sometimes they lose their minds, they think they are conquering the world, that nothing else matters.These explain all the excitment, the singing, the happiness, and also all the bad things that were mentioned in this tread. They feel free to do whatever they want, because they speak a language that nobody understand, they don´t have their parents and they have money to spend.

I agree that the respect to the limits and to other people should be part of everybody´s education and should be learned at home and at school, and nothing justifies rudeness and disrespect, especially when you are in other country, in other culture.

For those of you who want to avoid large brazilian groups, our winter vacation is on July. If you go to WDW in June or August you should be fine.

Our summer vacation is in December, January and first part of February. Also it is a tradition to take one week off in October, but it is only the second week of the month.

I have just visited WDW in early December and I have´t met any brazilian group.

Someone asked wich park they visit each day. I must answer all parks all days, because there are a lot of groups from different parts of the country.

If you have any questions about Brazil or about Brazilians, feel free to contact me at my e-mail address: silvio.luis@editora-atlas.com.br

I hope we can change the bad image of our country in a near future.

Thanks everybody,

Silvio Luis.

 

[ralfrick]

O fim da linha é esse meio.

According to http://www.freetranslation.com/ this is Portuguese for "The end of the line is that way."

Cheers.

 

[Miranda Danda]

O fim da linha é esse meio.

According to http://www.freetranslation.com/ this is Portuguese for "The end of the line is that way."

Cheers.

Thank you, I may be using that phrase!

 

[erinz]

SILVIO:

Thank you so much for your reply! I'm the kind of person who does better with rude people when I understand why they are acting the way they are. I still don't put up with it, but I'm less upset by the behavior.

Having said that.....I'm glad I'm not going in July!

 

[crcormier]

Silvio, thanks for reaching out with your reply to show us the perspective of what these kids are thinking. While it certainly doesn't excuse rude behavior, it makes me understand it more, and understanding is always a good thing.

 

[philaround]

I certainly understand that these Brazilian youths are rude and obnoxious but I feel that the only reason they are singled out for condemnation is that they are so easy to identify. In May of 2003 DW & I were at WDW for 2 weeks. During the first week there were large groups of Middle School children from all over Florida on day trips to Disney. They also traveled in large packs, barreled over people, jumped lines, and were generally loud and obnoxious. The problem, I think, is that these groups do not have a proper ratio of chaperons to kids. Here in my neck of the woods just about every school field trip has 1 chaperon to every 10 to 12 kids and it can be a real job to handle just 10 or 12 at a time. I can't imagine how anyone can expect 1 chaperon to handle 30 to 40 kids at a time.
How about we start a new dis service "Chaperons R US" for a nominal fee [and park admission] we will rent ourselves out to these groups and show them some real hospitality.

 

[NUHuskies#1]

Thanks for the explanation but when I went down for my graduation with a group of friends for the first time away from home we didn't behave like that. Sorry, but to me it's not an excuse for bad behavior.

 

[KarenAylwood]

I certainly understand that these Brazilian youths are rude and obnoxious but I feel that the only reason they are singled out for condemnation is that they are so easy to identify.

The last time I was at Disney (March) every cheerleader in the Free World was there. Yeah, a few of them cheered and whatnot, but they were in no way as rude as I've seen these Brazillian groups before. And I could identify them all because they were all wearing their little cheerleading tshirts and shorts and whatnot.

Silvio- thanks for the explaination but no matter the reason, it's still wrong. I guess I understand it a little better... but that doesn't change the fact that I simply CAN'T STAND those groups!!!

 

[Toni300z]

O fim da linha é esse meio.

According to http://www.freetranslation.com/ this is Portuguese for "The end of the line is that way."

Cheers.

LOL, that is funny!

 

[Toni300z]

I know! I completely agree!

 

[java]

While we have been bowled over by these tour groups, we also have had nice girls clear their group so we could get by with the stroller. I just started talking to them- tried my portugese-didn't get far then went to engllish and they wanted to talk. They wanted to practice their English and were more than happy to be kind. I guess I am Mary sunshine today

 

[lclark0621]

Just because the trip to WDW is a "right of passage" or whatever does not mean they can get away with being rude.

I dont mind singing and clapping. But the uncontroable cutting in line, running right over people, pushing small kids out of the way, pushing old people, etc, is completely unacceptable. Even if they dont speak English (which a lot of the do because you hear them talking to CMs in English, but the minute they have to follow a rule, suddenly "No English".), they can still say they are sorry if they "bump" into a person.

I have seen them litterly shove little kids aside for a characters. I once saw a little kid get shoves so hard she cracked her head on the pavement. Those kids got an earful even though they said "No English", the parents of that little girl were not giving up.

How hard is it to say "Sorry" or follow a freaking rule (No line cutting!)

No group of teenagers, whether Brazilian or American is going to get away with pushng my kid out of the way or cutting us in line. We simply dont move when they try to cut. DH & I will firmly plant out hands one each of the railings & not let go. When they try to push we say "No!". Whether they know English or not, they know "No". If they then try to explain to us in English they are meeting another member or whatever we still respond "No cutting!".

They will hold hands with 20+ kids & just push their way through a line. It is completely unacceptable! And Disney CMs should either pull them from the line & make them wait at the end like EVERYONE else, or call security if they are to afraid to confront them.

I bet the Brazilian tour groups would remember English quickly when security was throwing them out of the park for the assults on people that they do!

 

[Miss Park Avenue]

I've been following this thread since the beginning, since we are going in July for the first time since I was a teenager. Now I'm nervous. I've got two little girls, and so help me. If they shove one of my girls, I may be one of those thrown out of the parks. Line cutting is a HUGE pet peeve of mine. I consider myself an easy going person, but I don't like waiting as much as the next person, the thought of someone just cutting in front of me (even at McD's) makes my blood boil.

That said, it seems there needs to be some sort of rule Disney can enforce when it comes to tour groups of kids. Maybe a ratio of chaperones to those under 18. It can apply to all groups (so as not to single out one nationality) Just throwing this idea out there. I don't know how it can be enforced. But it sounds like somthing needs to be done.

 

[sleepyone]

If you let anybody else spoil your vacation, well thats as much your fault as it is theirs. Try not to take everything so seriously.

They don't spoil my vacation, I was curious WHY they act that way.

 

[Samirella]

I have read SOOO many complaints about this group. Is there anyway WDW can find out when they are coming and work with their "leaders" to further educate them on our cultures and how rudeness is not tolerated?

That has been done in the past and didn't seem to work.

 

[disneyaggie]

That has been done in the past and didn't seem to work.

Great. Well, I went ahead and sent another letter of complaint with pretty strong details to wdw.guest.communications@disneyworld.com . At least I can say I tried! As I put in my letter, it is pretty sad when the majority of us are trying to preserve the family spirit at WDW, while unruly brats are abusive to children and adults alike.

And I don't buy the excuse that it is their "right of passage". Bad manners are just that . . . bad manners. I say if they want to embarrass their country and themselves, do it in their own backyard; not ours.

Hopefully one day Disney will wake up. But hey, I thought such behavior would get their butts thrown out of the park. I wonder why this has not happened yet. Any anwers ? ? ?

 

[picantel]

We dealt with them once on the norway ride. There were at least 40+ and most of them were girls. They literally screamed the entire ride. Imagine about 8 or so teenage girls giving this high pitched scream 1 foot away in your ear. rude rude rude.

 

[SleepingUgly]

I am 28 years old and I am brazilian. I love Disneyworld and I´ve been there several times. I fact, I have to admit that I avoid brazilian groups while I am in the USA. I just hate the way they behave in theme parks, airports, malls, restaurants, etc.

I guess this is why I try to disassociate myself from "ugly American" tourists when I travel abroad: Women who walk around town with only bikini tops on because they think they are in an "uncivilized" country where no one would care and would actually bow to them because they are Americans; college kids who go to Italy or Portugal and speak Spanish to the locals; older Americans who shout English to locals, thinking that if they talk loudly and slowlyl then someone should understand them; and just people in general who are disgusted with the fact that not everyone speaks English and why stores in other countries don't list prices in US dollars.

For some reason, people act differently when they travel abroad. And because they are foreigners, they stand out more. The Europeans complain all the time about Asian tourists -- ie, the lack of respect they show in their churches and cathedrals -- but having traveled there numerous times, I've noticed that there are rude people from ALL cultures and countries (yes, including a large number of Americans). The ones who are different from the locals just tend to stand out more.

It is interesting how so many people jump on the bandwagon to bash people from another country/culture, but when others expressed concern about going to WDW during Gay Days, those individuals are deemed to be close-minded. I see no difference -- it's still stereotyping, and completely unfortunate.