Bin Laden - celebrations

[Toad_Passenger]

Totally agree.

OT - And since we're all entitled to our opinion, I can't stand Toby Keith and his ignorant self - patriotic songs or not. Yuck.

But, but he's a true American [/sarcasm]

 

[GinnyEmma]

u2 rocks, I agree, it isn't a simple issue. Because people are all different and have different ways of processing and expressing themselves.

 

[penn19]

Well I am an American and happy to be one. But I found the celebrations a mite disgusting/uncouth/low class/embarrassing for the nation etc.

OBL was a terrible person but I hope to NEVER stoop so low as to celebrate a death.

The rage felt by Americans when other countries were celebrating 9/11 is ironic. Those people do not have the freedom of the press - they only know what they have been taught. If your whole life you have been told the USA is evil and bad - of course they would celebrate. I took the opinion of - forgive them, they no not what they do. I cannot blame the ignorant.

But we as a nation are supposed to be better than that.

You must be new to this country. See, if AMERICANS do something, it must be right and just.

My mom always used to tell us when we growing up, "what would the neighbors think"? whenever we would do something. And I hated when she said it. But our "neighbors" (the world) were/are watching us. You don't care? Ok, don't care, but as a pp stated, you reap what you sow.

I for one am glad that OBL is dead, and understand what he represents to Americans, and others. I will celebrate when the war is over.

 

[Toad_Passenger]

You must be new to this country. See, if AMERICANS do something, it must be right and just.

My mom always used to tell us when we growing up, "what would the neighbors think"? whenever we would do something. And I hated when she said it. But our "neighbors" (the world) were/are watching us. You don't care? Ok, don't care, but as a pp stated, you reap what you sow.

I for one am glad that OBL is dead, and understand what he represents to Americans, and others. I will celebrate when the war is over.

This.

 

[FireDancer]

Wow, I thought when I woke up today everyone would have worked it all out and been in agreement. Guess we need another day, huh?

 

[Swalphin]

Well I am an American and happy to be one. But I found the celebrations a mite disgusting/uncouth/low class/embarrassing for the nation etc.

OBL was a terrible person but I hope to NEVER stoop so low as to celebrate a death.

The rage felt by Americans when other countries were celebrating 9/11 is ironic. Those people do not have the freedom of the press - they only know what they have been taught. If your whole life you have been told the USA is evil and bad - of course they would celebrate. I took the opinion of - forgive them, they no not what they do. I cannot blame the ignorant.

But we as a nation are supposed to be better than that.

I am sure the citizens of the countries who did celebrate would certainly take you to task for calling them ignorant. I do not think they are all ignorant many are probably fluent in a multitude of languages and can recite the Koran and preach from it. The people who were celebrating were doing so in part because Bin Laden had declared a fatwa against the USA and all of their allies, it was their duty to kill all Americans, Bin Laden had instructed them to do so siting the Koran as to why. 9/11 was a huge victory in their fatwa. They were all very well aware what that day meant to them.

 

[JessicaR]

Wow, I thought when I woke up today everyone would have worked it all out and been in agreement. Guess we need another day, huh?

A good old fashioned clambake may help!

 

[snapppyd]

Wow, I thought when I woke up today everyone would have worked it all out and been in agreement. Guess we need another day, huh?

Well aren't you the optimist!

 

[princessmom29]

But, but he's a true American [/sarcasm]

No sarcasm needed. He IS in fact a true American and I am proud that he is brave enough to speak his mind rather than bow to those who would silence him out of political correctness. We spend way too much time as a country worrying about what others think. I applaud the fast that he is brave enoughto speakhis mind. I don't find him to be ignorant at all. He understands the other isdeo f the argumet just fine. He just doesn't agree withit. That does not make him ignorant.

 

[Swalphin]

Wow, I thought when I woke up today everyone would have worked it all out and been in agreement. Guess we need another day, huh?

I am off to work maybe you will have it all worked out tonight.

 

[luvsJack]

Wow, I thought when I woke up today everyone would have worked it all out and been in agreement. Guess we need another day, huh?

Or 20.



How many times does it have to be said--if you don't feel comfortable celebrating DON'T! That does not make you a better person or a more intelligent person or a more spiritual person than the thousands (hundreds?) that DO want to celebrate. It just means that you are not comfortable with it.

Some of you find it disgusting (disturbing) that some celebrated his death. Ok, I can accept that. But I find it disgusting (disturbing) that the American people have been compared to the people that celebrated 9/11. And please, do not insult my intelligence by telling me "that is all they know". BS.

 

[Toad_Passenger]

Wow, I thought when I woke up today everyone would have worked it all out and been in agreement. Guess we need another day, huh?

Whatever day the news cycle brings us something new.

 

[NikitaZee]

No sarcasm needed. He IS in fact a true American and I am proud that he is brave enough to speak his mind rather than bow to those who would silence him out of political correctness. We spend way too much time as a country worrying about what others think. I applaud the fast that he is brave enoughto speakhis mind. I don't find him to be ignorant at all. He understands the other isdeo f the argumet just fine. He just doesn't agree withit. That does not make him ignorant.

That is truly funny - considering how good ole Toby acted when the Dixie Chicks did just that several years ago!

 

[FireDancer]

Well aren't you the optimist!

I'm going to take my half full glass and go get a refill.

 

[Mahnahmahnah]

I don't think Toby Keith has any songs about tree hugging, sorry!

Lol, they aren't going to get it. People have emotions. So sue them. If the self righteous want to look down their noses at those who have emotions, they are going to do so.
Saying it again. College students will party because it is national tulip day. They were 10 years old when the towers were destroyed. My college student sat here and watched it happen, and watched me cry, and watched people die. Obl was responsible for this atrocity. In war people are killed. This was a mini battlefield where the bad guys lost big time. Thus people are happy. Justice was served. The world is safer. One heck of a better reason to party than tulip day as far as college students are concerned.

Bolded.

I also agree with everything else you said. I have younger brothers in college now and they watched my mom & I cry. They knew what my DH was doing. It was on the news 24/7. You couldn't go anywhere around here without flags hanging off of cars and houses. The way people acted was different. They knew this was a horrific event. It had to have huge psychological impacts on the minds of those kids. Not to mention we knew people who died, too. It's bad enough when one person in your own family dies of natural/accidental causes, it can cause issues.

But when they heard over and over how one man was behind it all, how else where they supposed to feel?

How can those self-righteous refuse to see that? I think it's pretty nervy to look down on someone on the way they deal with grief. They have no clue if someone from school's dad was killed in the towers and maybe they wanted to lift them out of a funk. The world is not black and white.

My college student (8 yo at the time) was in school in Manhattan (thank goodness it was the upper west side) and she saw people streaming north covered in soot. She saw people walking the streets in shock as Manhattan was shut down. She has had anxiety problems ever since. I can understand a little celebration.

As I said earlier in this thread, I do find it a little distasteful to celebrate someone's death, but the death of this particular "person" has caused the total amount of evil in the world to go down significantly, and that IMO is a valid reason to celebrate.

Comparing the celebrations in the US over the EXECUTION of a confessed (and jubilant) murderer to the MURDER of 3000 innocents is disgusting (and even though English is my second language, I use that word deliberately!)

I feel bad for the kids. It was horrible to deal with as an adult.

 

[NaLisa]

That is truly funny - considering how good ole Toby acted when the Dixie Chicks did just that several years ago!

 

[akhenaten]

That is truly funny - considering how good ole Toby acted when the Dixie Chicks did just that several years ago!

 

[princessmom29]

That is truly funny - considering how good ole Toby acted when the Dixie Chicks did just that several years ago!

I am not sure what you mean. He definitely disagreed with them and expressed that, but isn't that his right in this country? I don't recall him ever saying they didn't have the right to speak up, just that he didn't care for what they were saying. Frankly, neither did I. It was not a sentiment I shared at all, and It made me choose to stop supporting thier music becuse by doing that I was contributing to the money they were funneling nito their political agenda. Which agian, is my right in this country. I do admire thier courage for speaking thier mid, but I disagree with thier agenda and choose not to support it.

 

[FireDancer]

That is truly funny - considering how good ole Toby acted when the Dixie Chicks did just that several years ago!

Well, to be fair, no one said he wasn't also a bit of a hypocrite.

I don't really care one way or another about Toby and I don't really like country but I do like that song.

 

[snapppyd]

No sarcasm needed. He IS in fact a true American and I am proud that he is brave enough to speak his mind rather than bow to those who would silence him out of political correctness. We spend way too much time as a country worrying about what others think. I applaud the fast that he is brave enoughto speakhis mind. I don't find him to be ignorant at all. He understands the other isdeo f the argumet just fine. He just doesn't agree withit. That does not make him ignorant.

I happen to love Toby Keith, we go to see him in concert twice a year. He has gone to visit the troops every year for the past nine years. I love this song that he wrote:

I'm just trying to be a father
Raise a daughter and a son
Be a lover to their mother
Everything to everyone
Up and at 'em, bright and early
I'm all business in my suit
Yeah, I'm dressed up for success
From my head down to my boots

I don't do it for the money
There's bills that I can't pay
I don't do it for the glory
I just do it anyway
Providing for our future's my responsibility
Yeah I'm real good under pressure
Being all that I can be

And I can't call in sick on Mondays
When the weekends been too strong
I just work straight through the holidays
And sometimes all night long
You can bet that I stand ready when the wolf growls at the door
Hey, I'm solid, hey I'm steady, hey, I'm true down to the core

And I will always do my duty no matter what the price
I've counted up the cost, I know the sacrifice
Oh, and I don't want to die for you
But if dyin's asked of me
I'll bear that cross with honor
'Cause freedom don't come free

I'm an American soldier, an American
Beside my brothers and my sisters I will proudly take a stand
When Liberty's in jeopardy, I will always do what's right
I'm out here on the front line
Sleep in peace tonight
American soldier, I'm an American soldier

Yeah, an American soldier, an American
Beside my brothers and my sisters I will proudly take a stand
When Liberty's in jeopardy I will always do what's right
I'm out here on the front line
So Sleep in peace tonight
American soldier, I'm an American
An American, an American soldier