BIG BROTHER 19! SPOILER THREAD! "SUMMER OF TEMPTATION"

[cluvsdisney]

Cody was so calm talking to Raven. How could anyone believe Cody was to blame for what went.down.

She even gave them hugs and kisses before she left the lounge room. That whole thing was because PAUL created the drama. He told Raven to fake cry then went after Jess & Cody for making her cry. Then both Jason and Kevin came in to clear up that they really were talking about the medal and not Jessica. Cody questioned Jason about his veto speech and how he made it super personal when they never had a beef. Jason admitted to "declaring". Somewhere in there, Raven started to cry for real. I have to say Jessica handled that interrogation amazingly well considering they were firing questions at her.

Cody has been remarkably calm all week. It was funny the other day, he made eggs and put the shells back in the carton. Paul flipped out about who does this, he's never seen anyone do this before*. Cody walks by and says "that was me". Paul: Why would you do that?
Cody: Um, hold that thought.

Then walks out to the backyard. haha!!

*Dingo/Hamstewatch pointed out that he had the same reaction LAST YEAR when someone put egg shells back in the carton.

 

[lorimay]

No, I have. It's what you're bashing the women for that I have a problem with. I called it "female" shaming to avoid points.

I'm sorry but I find this kind of behavior inappropriate, what you do in your every day life is fine, I don't care, but when you are being filmed 24/7 and its to the point where BB has to turn off your microphone(Jessica) because of your antics on live a TV feed. Then you're telling a story to your "boyfriend" on a live feed about how the 2 of you were in the middle of private time and Raven and Matt started having some private time in the bed next to yours and the 2 of you started first and lasted longer....... Nope they are both gross and will both have to live with that forever on the internet, not a woman I look up to or support or respect in any way.

She is the one who made a choice to behave this way on TV and so therefore, she opens herself up to be judged by America.......

 

[DisneyLover1217]

True, he was worse. There's a reason he goes by Evel Dick. But he did his own dirty work and didn't need to round up a bunch of people to bark at his adversary or tell someone to get the pans and generate a mob mentality. So yeah, Dick did more things to house guests than Paul but that's because he didn't recruit a bunch of helpers to stand behind. This is why I don't like how Paul is playing this year - he made the game extremely personal and took it down to level that even ED wouldn't go to (which he said as much on twitter). On the other hand, I didn't like Paul last year but I rooted for him because I didn't like Nicole.

But the only reason ED won is because of America's Player. Poor Eric Stein was directed to get him off the block or some how stop his eviction.

Exactly ED never needed anyone to do his dirty work. ED was the way he was in the house mostly to protect his daughter. Remember he was playing for 2 people. Yes, Eric had to vote for ED to keep him in the house being America's player, but ED actually convinced, Jen, his mortal enemy in the house to vote to keep him there, which she did! Now that is game playing. That would be like Cody or Paul getting the other to vote to keep them in the house. I also follow ED on Twitter and he has also said going after Cody's military experience was wrong, there are lines you don't cross. He said his banging of pots and pans was over a one week period only, yet every talks like he did it every day. He implores people to re-watch the season and you will see he did not bang the pots and pans as much as people thinks he did, he also said you will see most of his confrontations were people that were coming after him. Now I am not excusing ED's behavior in that house, he was not someone I would have wanted to deal with, but at the end of the day those same people voted for him to win, so I have to assume he wasn't all that bad.

Paul is using his star status to control everyone. Jess even pointed that out to him and of course he looks at her like she has 3 heads. Paul is constantly pointing out it's like his 150th day in the house, pretty much saying he knows the game better than anyone. That's what Cody pointed out to Paul and that's where Paul flipped out. Paul claimed he doesn't go around saying he's the best player in the house. Cody said what does telling everyone this is my 150th day in the house insinuate??? Paul of course has no answer that's when he starts telling Cody to leave and that he has small man complex. So, Cody basically called Paul out and Paul couldn't handle the truth.

Paul wants Cody out because Cody stood up to him, plain and simple and both of Paul's HoH's trying to get Cody out have been for nothing, which hurts Paul's poor little ego. There is nothing strategic about Paul wanting Cody out. If Paul was so strategic he'd want Cody to stay as Cody has the biggest target on his back. As long as Cody is in the game, Paul will be safe, even if Cody puts him on the block, as Paul has the votes, but Paul is not strategic and is playing a personal game, that is why he is not a good player. Just like Josh, if Josh were smart, which he is not, he will put up Paul and Alex.

 

[Pacolovestacos]

Exactly ED never needed anyone to do his dirty work. ED was the way he was in the house mostly to protect his daughter. Remember he was playing for 2 people. Yes, Eric had to vote for ED to keep him in the house being America's player, but ED actually convinced, Jen, his mortal enemy in the house to vote to keep him there, which she did! Now that is game playing. That would be like Cody or Paul getting the other to vote to keep them in the house. I also follow ED on Twitter and he has also said going after Cody's military experience was wrong, there are lines you don't cross. He said his banging of pots and pans was over a one week period only, yet every talks like he did it every day. He implores people to re-watch the season and you will see he did not bang the pots and pans as much as people thinks he did, he also said you will see most of his confrontations were people that were coming after him. Now I am not excusing ED's behavior in that house, he was not someone I would have wanted to deal with, but at the end of the day those same people voted for him to win, so I have to assume he wasn't all that bad.

Paul is using his star status to control everyone. Jess even pointed that out to him and of course he looks at her like she has 3 heads. Paul is constantly pointing out it's like his 150th day in the house, pretty much saying he knows the game better than anyone. That's what Cody pointed out to Paul and that's where Paul flipped out. Paul claimed he doesn't go around saying he's the best player in the house. Cody said what does telling everyone this is my 150th day in the house insinuate??? Paul of course has no answer that's when he starts telling Cody to leave and that he has small man complex. So, Cody basically called Paul out and Paul couldn't handle the truth.

Paul wants Cody out because Cody stood up to him, plain and simple and both of Paul's HoH's trying to get Cody out have been for nothing, which hurts Paul's poor little ego. There is nothing strategic about Paul wanting Cody out. If Paul was so strategic he'd want Cody to stay as Cody has the biggest target on his back. As long as Cody is in the game, Paul will be safe, even if Cody puts him on the block, as Paul has the votes, but Paul is not strategic and is playing a personal game, that is why he is not a good player. Just like Josh, if Josh were smart, which he is not, he will put up Paul and Alex.

Not true. Paul flipped out after Cody started telling him not to tell Jess to lower his voice. Even Jess was mad at Cody for that because he lost his mind. That wasn't Paul, that was Cody. And it's Cody that has "small man complex."

 

[Grace&Carolinesmom]

Not true. Paul flipped out after Cody started telling him not to tell Jess to lower his voice. Even Jess was mad at Cody for that because he lost his mind. That wasn't Paul, that was Cody. And it's Cody that has "small man complex."

I have a different perception of this situation. I do not see Cody "flipping out" but merely frustrated that Paul is trying to control Jess by telling her to lower her voice. He cares deeply for Jess and was trying to protect her from Paul's mind control games that Cody sees right through. Jess was upset with Cody because she doesn't need or want Cody to step in and try to protect her from any perceived threat or grievance because it will just escalate the situation. She strikes me as being very independent and strong willed thus doesn't want a man interjecting and making the situation worse than it already is. She said as much when she quipped that she has been on the receiving end of much worse but doesn't retaliate because it isn't worth it. There is more power sometimes in keeping quiet and letting the aggressor think they won the argument/situation because a retaliative statement or outburst can further the agenda of the original aggressor.

 

[DisneyLover1217]

I have a different perception of this situation. I do not see Cody "flipping out" but merely frustrated that Paul is trying to control Jess by telling her to lower her voice. He cares deeply for Jess and was trying to protect her from Paul's mind control games that Cody sees right through. Jess was upset with Cody because she doesn't need or want Cody to step in and try to protect her from any perceived threat or grievance because it will just escalate the situation. She strikes me as being very independent and strong willed thus doesn't want a man interjecting and making the situation worse than it already is. She said as much when she quipped that she has been on the receiving end of much worse but doesn't retaliate because it isn't worth it. There is more power sometimes in keeping quiet and letting the aggressor think they won the argument/situation because a retaliative statement or outburst can further the agenda of the original aggressor.

Exactly!

 

[cluvsdisney]

I have a different perception of this situation. I do not see Cody "flipping out" but merely frustrated that Paul is trying to control Jess by telling her to lower her voice. He cares deeply for Jess and was trying to protect her from Paul's mind control games that Cody sees right through. Jess was upset with Cody because she doesn't need or want Cody to step in and try to protect her from any perceived threat or grievance because it will just escalate the situation. She strikes me as being very independent and strong willed thus doesn't want a man interjecting and making the situation worse than it already is. She said as much when she quipped that she has been on the receiving end of much worse but doesn't retaliate because it isn't worth it. There is more power sometimes in keeping quiet and letting the aggressor think they won the argument/situation because a retaliative statement or outburst can further the agenda of the original aggressor.

I agree. I think to Cody, this was the same as telling her to shut up.

He later on explained to her that he will always react like that in this type of situation and tries to avoid them and that he only went upstairs because she asked him to. Plus he can't stand Paul which didn't help the situation.

 

[Aliceacc]

Big Brother aside, I don't see Jess and Cody surviving as a couple outside the house

He's determined to swoop in and protect her from any slight, real or imagined.

She's a very independent woman. When Cody said he had "fallen on a grenade" for her, she immediately said that she didn't need anyone falling on grenades for her; she was capable in her own right.

They seem like very different people.

 

[lorimay]

Big Brother aside, I don't see Jess and Cody surviving as a couple outside the house

He's determined to swoop in and protect her from any slight, real or imagined.

She's a very independent woman. When Cody said he had "fallen on a grenade" for her, she immediately said that she didn't need anyone falling on grenades for her; she was capable in her own right.

They seem like very different people.

She grabbed onto him for a "showmance' only. There was talk that the first few nights the girls were talking and I think it was Raven who was speaking of Cody's "package" in shorts and then Jessica ran upstairs to the HOH room and the rest is history.

He told Jessica he didn't have many friends and was barely close to his family. So it seems he's a loner. She does not strike me as a girl who wants to shut out people and hole up alone with him forever....... I mean not many young girls would.

 

[Aliceacc]

Yet when he was evicted, he asked her to be his girlfriend and I think she said yes. In his interview afterwards, he indicated that that was what he meant.

I feel sorry for Cody. I think he needs help, and that coming on BB was a huge mistake for him. But I do feel sorry for him.

He would probably hate knowing that I'm probably not alone-- that he has the sympathy, not admiration-- of so many people.

 

[crazee4mickey]

Here's an article with a tweet from ED weighing in.

http://elitedaily.com/entertainment/big-brother-backlash-veteran-military/2033525/amp/

So disappointed that this was allowed.
Yep, Cody is a bit different but probably if we had experienced what he has and what he's gone through, we would be different as well.

At least Cody has done something, does Paul still live with his parents with his silver spoon in his mouth?!

Very disappointed in Xmas, her jumping on the Paul bullying bandwagon is pathetic but also with her and Kevin's "cozying up" behaviour. They are both adults but you would think 'married' and '7 children' would be enough of a red flag.

Overall, so many of the houseguests are surprising me with their ignorance and inability to be individuals or in small alliances on their own.

 

[RedSox68]

I read something about how the some fans of BB love showmances and many of them donate money to these couples so that they can vacaction together after the show finishes, I think someone said Jordan and Jeff were donated with a trip to Europe. Another couple, don;t remember who also got a vacation and were caught saying that they only stayed together to see what they could get from fans.
Some of these fans are hardcore and will do anything to meet with the HG's and chat with them....... SMH

Maybe these current HG's are aware and want to see what they can get. Hmmm........ Raven a new possible scam??

Did they ever get married? I know they had a baby!

Found it. https://www.reddit.com/r/BigBrother/comments/6olnsw/ravens_kidnapping_story/

She also claims to have an inverted spine, no such thing by the way. https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/890811126350467077/pu/vid/630x360/p42J2HHP98OqtKIZ.mp4

If that were the case about her spine, how could she be allowed to do some of those body wrenching competitions!

 

[here757]

Serious question for the board, did you watch Evil Dick's season? What Paul is doing is nowhere near as despicable as what Dick did. And Dick won!

I say bring evil dick back next week!!

 

[lorimay]

Did they ever get married? I know they had a baby!



If that were the case about her spine, how could she be allowed to do some of those body wrenching competitions!

Yes, they were planning a destination wedding I believe and when Jordan found out she was pregnant, they decided to just go to the courthouse.
I love them, they are my favorite couple from BB ever.

 

[Pacolovestacos]

I have a different perception of this situation. I do not see Cody "flipping out" but merely frustrated that Paul is trying to control Jess by telling her to lower her voice. He cares deeply for Jess and was trying to protect her from Paul's mind control games that Cody sees right through. Jess was upset with Cody because she doesn't need or want Cody to step in and try to protect her from any perceived threat or grievance because it will just escalate the situation. She strikes me as being very independent and strong willed thus doesn't want a man interjecting and making the situation worse than it already is. She said as much when she quipped that she has been on the receiving end of much worse but doesn't retaliate because it isn't worth it. There is more power sometimes in keeping quiet and letting the aggressor think they won the argument/situation because a retaliative statement or outburst can further the agenda of the original aggressor.

Paul was telling Jess to lower her voice so the rest of the house can't hear the convo, he wasn't trying to be mean. Jody are emotional players and that's not going to work in this game.

 

[cluvsdisney]

As far as showmances, I think BB has a better record than the Bachelor...Ha! There's Jeff & Jordan, Rachel & Brendan and Danielle & Dom.

 

[Allison]

Paul was telling Jess to lower her voice so the rest of the house can't hear the convo, he wasn't trying to be mean.

That's not my interpretation of how it went. Paul doesn't like people who don't nod their head and agree with everything he says.

Hey, if he can win the game the way he is playing, then more power to him. That is what he should do. The rest of the houseguests deserve to lose for being sheep and following the wolf.

 

[brockash]

Not true. Paul flipped out after Cody started telling him not to tell Jess to lower his voice. Even Jess was mad at Cody for that because he lost his mind. That wasn't Paul, that was Cody. And it's Cody that has "small man complex."

And how condescending was it of Paul to tell Jessica to lower her voice? WTH is he to speak to someone like that. Cody didn't "lose his mind," he stuck up for Jessica and told him not to talk to her like that. I'm not saying he did everything right, but he wasn't the only one in the wrong. Like I said before I don't like Cody, it's just the pathetic and horrible behavior of Paul that unfortunately make me defend Cody...blah.

 

[brockash]

Paul was telling Jess to lower her voice so the rest of the house can't hear the convo, he wasn't trying to be mean. Jody are emotional players and that's not going to work in this game.

The way he said it was very rude and hmmm.... I wonder why he doesn't want the rest of the house to hear lol. It'd be one thing if they were on the same side so he wanted to remind Jess to not let others hear, but that's isn't/wasn't the situation. He thinks he's better and more entitled than everyone else in that house which is why he gets so scared and offended when there's a player that doesn't agree with his sentiment.

 

[sk!mom]

I'm sorry but I find this kind of behavior inappropriate, what you do in your every day life is fine, I don't care, but when you are being filmed 24/7 and its to the point where BB has to turn off your microphone(Jessica) because of your antics on live a TV feed. Then you're telling a story to your "boyfriend" on a live feed about how the 2 of you were in the middle of private time and Raven and Matt started having some private time in the bed next to yours and the 2 of you started first and lasted longer....... Nope they are both gross and will both have to live with that forever on the internet, not a woman I look up to or support or respect in any way.

She is the one who made a choice to behave this way on TV and so therefore, she opens herself up to be judged by America.......

My problem with your comments is that you are singling the women out for shaming. What about the men? They are behaving the exact same way?

Very disappointed in Xmas, her jumping on the Paul bullying bandwagon is pathetic but also with her and Kevin's "cozying up" behaviour. They are both adults but you would think 'married' and '7 children' would be enough of a red flag.

And more woman shaming... Kevin is the one married with 7 children yet you're disappointed in Xmas? How about putting a lot of that disappointment on the married man?