Benefits of 2020 Point Charts???

[DVC92]

Disney, via member satisfaction, has informed me that the reasoning and methods for the 2020 point reallocation is proprietary and just want to assure me that it is legal and for the benefit of all members. They refused to let me speak to accounting for further explanation in a recent telephone call.

Have any of you found personal benefit from the new point charts?

 

[_auroraborealis_]

They refused to let me speak to accounting for further explanation in a recent telephone call.

I don't know that anyone front-line in member accounting could say anything of meaning. They're not the ones rearranging points.

 

[JETSDAD]

AKV value 1 and 2 bedrooms went down so yes, that's a benefit to us (the 1 bedroom specifically for us). People booking 2 bedroom units at many resorts will also find it a benefit depending on when they travel.

 

[10CJ]

I have a couple scenarios we are considering for Spring Break 2020. One option did go down, but others went up. I have not really looked at other less expensive seasons.

 

[Dean]

Disney, via member satisfaction, has informed me that the reasoning and methods for the 2020 point reallocation is proprietary and just want to assure me that it is legal and for the benefit of all members. They refused to let me speak to accounting for further explanation in a recent telephone call.

Have any of you found personal benefit from the new point charts?

Down for some esp Magic and 2 BR. As I've stated in other thread's, going in person with an appt to Celebration or having a lawyer get involved are the only ways one is likely to get more information. Even then the occupancy data will almost certainly not be provided.

 

[Pooh12863]

Our 8 day CCV 2BR Magic Season trip in 2020 looks to be 20 points cheaper than it is in 2019 so yes the 2020 chart personally benefits us.

 

[ElizabethG]

We have 15 nights booked in 2019 (magic season). On the 2020 point chart, it would be 30 points less.

 

[Lakegirl]

Our 8 day CCV 2BR Magic Season trip in 2020 looks to be 20 points cheaper than it is in 2019 so yes the 2020 chart personally benefits us.

Are you booking a 2 bedroom. You must be psyched!!

 

[Wakey]

Zero, all points up all seasons all resorts virtually for 1 beds, the last to book room category.
Bizarrely only the most popular of the 1 beds on site has gone down, AKL Value.
Makes zero sense, zero, aside from making Disney more cash.
Suppose the upside is 1 beds will be even easier to get at 7 months.

 

[BillPA]

Disney, via member satisfaction, has informed me that the reasoning and methods for the 2020 point reallocation is proprietary and just want to assure me that it is legal and for the benefit of all members. They refused to let me speak to accounting for further explanation in a recent telephone call.

Have any of you found personal benefit from the new point charts?

If they did it LEGAL, why will they not tell how they came up with this round of 'sticking it' to the members?

 

[Shooby doo]

First & foremost there is zero benefit to those of us that have long vacations, I could only dream of owning enough points for a 3 week stay in a 2BR! Comparable 3 week stays from '19 - '20 now will cost me an extra 21 points, we had been considering adding on next year but we are now getting close to breaking point in the way we feel Disney treat "us" once you have bought in. Whilst there this year we over heard a gentleman ask the resort rep, what the minimum buy in for Riveria would be, 75, & when he asked what that would get him the answer was "Not a lot!"- well it will be even less now !
SD :-(

 

[Dean Marino]

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[ILoveMyDVC]

Zero, all points up all seasons all resorts virtually for 1 beds, the last to book room category.
Bizarrely only the most popular of the 1 beds on site has gone down, AKL Value.
Makes zero sense, zero, aside from making Disney more cash.
Suppose the upside is 1 beds will be even easier to get at 7 months.

I compared 3/4 categories - 1 bed being the only one I haven't looked at (2 bed in one season had a drop 2018 > 2020)- process of elimination - thanks for verifying.

 

[LBHouse]

It benefits me and my family. We had been using one bedrooms, but now are a family of seven and need to book 2 bedrooms now. We will continue to travel to WDW atleast 4x’s a year.

Years ago we did 5 night trips, due to weekend vs weekday costs. Now we do weeks. It’s all good for us.

I love my dvc and can’t imagine not having it.

 

[Wakey]

It benefits me and my family. We had been using one bedrooms, but now are a family of seven and need to book 2 bedrooms now. We will continue to travel to WDW atleast 4x’s a year.

Years ago we did 5 night trips, due to weekend vs weekday costs. Now we do weeks. It’s all good for us.

I love my dvc and can’t imagine not having it.

Not necessarily as 2 bed availibility may reduce.

 

[Jelly563]

I believe this is a way Disney is addressing the lack of studio issue. I dont understand why anyone would want to crowd their 5 person family into a studio, but it seems like that is the norm. To me, 5 people fit better in a 2br (mom & dad in 1br, kids in the other.) If you have a rebel-type they get the living room pull out. In Disney's eyes, this set up probably also saves a lot of wear & tear on the rooms when 5 ppl are bouncing off each other squeezed into a studio.

 

[Wakey]

I believe this is a way Disney is addressing the lack of studio issue. I dont understand why anyone would want to crowd their 5 person family into a studio, but it seems like that is the norm. To me, 5 people fit better in a 2br (mom & dad in 1br, kids in the other.) If you have a rebel-type they get the living room pull out. In Disney's eyes, this set up probably also saves a lot of wear & tear on the rooms when 5 ppl are bouncing off each other squeezed into a studio.

I think most would agree a rebalancing against studios makes sense, but surely sensible thing to do would be to lower 1 beds ?

 

[D-Trick]

I think most would agree a rebalancing against studios makes sense, but surely sensible thing to do would be to lower 1 beds ?

I would love to see the 1 beds go down (as I prefer a kitchen), but for fun I let this scenario out in my head. Imagine the studios go up by two points and the 1 bedrooms go down two points. That would make the 1 bedrooms more appealing and increase demand, relieving some pressure on studios, yes? I agree. Instead of having higher inventory of open 1 bedrooms, they are now in more demand, resulting in resorts having more filled 1 bedroom reservations.

What did my make believe scenario accomplish though? In the end, nothing.

Right now, if you look at the availability calendar for 1 bedrooms in January 2019, most every resort is filled up (with the exception of scattered single days here and there). 1 bedrooms may be a unit size with lower demand, but it will eventually fill up. And this is Adventure season.

This is why DVC can raise the 1 bedroom points too. In the end, people will still book them, and that's all DVC wants and therefore justifies the means. With WDW 50th coming in 2021, I'm pretty sure that EVERYTHING will fill up.
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Back to OP... I definitely did not see a benefit from the new point charts. Everything went up for me. I'm not complaining though. My vacation plans will have to change, and that's OK.

 

[zavandor]

Balancing the points required by different room sizes is currently against the POS. As incredible it can be that DVCMC violates their own rules, the wording clearly only allows to balance each vacation home over the year, but not increase one vacation home and decrease another. So increasing studios and decreasing 1BR is against the POS; they could change the POS to allow it, but they haven't yet.

 

[Mumof4mice]

I think Disney could make a good case that because all members can book any room category regardless of which (small percentage of) Unit they own, it's implicit that the units within the resort are pooled. Reallocations therefore are in keeping with the spirit of the contract.