beer at MK

[Tonka's Skipper]

It isn't logical to assume someone would change his or her mind over 40 years, without something to base it on. Walt as he made his feelings known over and over in print, video and verbally. When something it right to them, its right. There is nothing now to show better to expand alcohol in the MK, in fact the problems at Epcot is one reason to show it it shouldn't be expanded.

The MK is that special, not reason to change now when anyone wanting a drink can get it 10 minutes away.

AKK

 

[LSLS]

I can see both sides of this. I definitely like a beer with a good sit down meal. That said, there really aren't many places I would think of having that at in MK (maybe the new SC?). And it HAS to be only a sit down type thing/no walking around.

Of course MK is not just for kids, but I think we could all agree that is the most kid-oriented park of the 4. Last time at Epcot, there was a HAMMERED group guys. Saw them just before dinner being horribly loud (luckily no swear words with my kid there). Later on in the night after my dad had taken the munchkin back I saw them screaming and cursing because they were hitting on some guys girl which got them kicked out of England. This in front of a poor dad who had two kid who was searching for a quick service with his kids. Honestly took everything I had (and my wife) to not go after them. We did tell security who looked like they were on their way to find the punks. This is at 8 or 9, at a park where there really isn't much for kids after dinner. I can't imagine having that happen at a kid-oriented park. My point being it's a dangerous line to try to walk at a place like MK.

Finally, as for what Walt would want, I feel like Disney veered off that path a long time ago anyways.

 

[Nancyg56]

I can see both sides of this. I definitely like a beer with a good sit down meal. That said, there really aren't many places I would think of having that at in MK (maybe the new SC?). And it HAS to be only a sit down type thing/no walking around.

Of course MK is not just for kids, but I think we could all agree that is the most kid-oriented park of the 4. Last time at Epcot, there was a HAMMERED group guys. Saw them just before dinner being horribly loud (luckily no swear words with my kid there). Later on in the night after my dad had taken the munchkin back I saw them screaming and cursing because they were hitting on some guys girl which got them kicked out of England. This in front of a poor dad who had two kid who was searching for a quick service with his kids. Honestly took everything I had (and my wife) to not go after them. We did tell security who looked like they were on their way to find the punks. This is at 8 or 9, at a park where there really isn't much for kids after dinner. I can't imagine having that happen at a kid-oriented park. My point being it's a dangerous line to try to walk at a place like MK.

Finally, as for what Walt would want, I feel like Disney veered off that path a long time ago anyways.

But you can understand that there is a vast difference between having a glass of Chianti at Tony's, or a beer at LTT and walking around from kiosk to kiosk, slurping up anything that has alcohol in it, can't you?

I am not advocating opening up the MK to beer gardens, and margarita stands, but I can certainly entertain the notion that MK restaurants are well equipped to address any over indulgence that may occur within their confine.

 

[MaryLovesPoohBear]

I do not "feel the need" to have a drink anywhere. If I did I would leave the park and get one. I said that I like a glass of wine with dinner. I said I would like it if that was offered in the TS restaurants. Your suggestion that if one "feels the need" for a drink one must go to BOG is kind of snippy.

No kidding.

"Feel the need" for a drink is something that an alcoholic feels. Not something the average person feels.

Sitting down for dinner and thinking a nice glass of white would be nice, doesn't make one an alcoholic.

 

[crb60]

lets help us convince disney they need more beer at MK. we all know that BOG serving beer and wine isn't enough. what beers pair with what lands/rides.

- Liberty Square - Homebrewing with the Presidents
- Gaston's Tavern - Actual beer
- Main Street - Some speakeasy with prohibition style lagers.
- Tommorowland - The future of beer making. New hops that area being produced.
- Winnie the Pooh - Not necessarily beer but some honey mead
- Stitch - I see him making some prison hooch.

I'm all in favor of a small bar or two in the MK, but I don't think it would need one in every land as you may be suggesting. An old style Frontierland bar with some whiskey drinks and beers would be awesome, as well as a nice tavern somewhere in Fantasyland. We typically take a mid-day break from the parks and hop on the monorail to the resort for some AC, a snack and a drink or two before heading back. It's really amazing what that small refresher outsider can do. It would be fantastic to have that option inside the park, as well.

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

As folks have pointed out above, it is very easy and people do just pop out and get whatever they wish at the CR, Poly, GF or anywhere else. Why disturb the special nature and feel and magic/pixie dust of the MK?...this cannot be found anywhere else in the world or WDW/DLR.

AKK

 

[LSLS]

But you can understand that there is a vast difference between having a glass of Chianti at Tony's, or a beer at LTT and walking around from kiosk to kiosk, slurping up anything that has alcohol in it, can't you?

I am not advocating opening up the MK to beer gardens, and margarita stands, but I can certainly entertain the notion that MK restaurants are well equipped to address any over indulgence that may occur within their confine.

Completely, hence the first paragraph. I can see having it at a sitdown and sitdown only. To me though, it doesn't really matter. But frankly I don't do sitdowns at MK (aside from sometimes Crystal Palace which should not get it anyways), so I don't quite get it.

That all said, the origin of the post really wasn't for sit downs only.

 

[Jennasis]

I'm pretty sure "Feel the need" was meant as a figure of speech and not an indictment...and I'm pretty sure everyone knows that and is just being contentious now, on both sides.

The bottom line is that none of us have a say in this. Not even Walt. Disney will do whatever it feels is in THEIR best interest and nobody elses.

 

[Nancyg56]

Completely, hence the first paragraph. I can see having it at a sitdown and sitdown only. To me though, it doesn't really matter. But frankly I don't do sitdowns at MK (aside from sometimes Crystal Palace which should not get it anyways), so I don't quite get it.

That all said, the origin of the post really wasn't for sit downs only.

No, the OP was not about TS restaurants alone, but honestly it looked more tongue in cheek to me than completely serious.

I think that there is room to discuss the pros and cons of wine and beer with a TS meal. WE do have dinner often in the MK, and even though the options do not match the resorts, we like to have dinner anyway.

I honestly do not care if the MK stays dry, but I do not think that the fact that the park has kids in it is a reason to stop looking at the option.

 

[MakiraMarlena]

I like it the way it is. WDW is for the kids.

If WDW were for the kids, they'd serve nothing but juice, anywhere on property. WDW is not for the kids. Plenty of guests arrive at WDW every day who don't have any kids at all in their traveling party.

I suppose an argument might be made that MK is for the kids. Although I see a lot of parties without any kids there, too.

Interestingly, it's not like alcohol makes a park more dangerous...there is a story about 2 women beating each other up over alleged line-cutting at Mad Tea Party. Apparently no alcohol involved. One of them got nailed for assault, seems as though she started the hitting. There is a lot of nastiness and arguments about who was where in line at MK too. In fact, as far as the clientele is concerned, MK is no more special or different than the other parks.

like the story of the diser who was carrying a drink she hadn't had a sip of yet, tripped, and was accused of being drunk.

I like the one about a woman who reported two girls to Disney security for being drunk and wanted them ejected from the park. Security guy talked to them, turns out they were only 18 and hadn't had any alcohol and were just being a bit overly loud and exuberant for the woman's taste.

I would LOVE to be able to get a beer in a speakeasy on Main St

Maybe the Ink and Paint Club from Roger Rabbit..."Walt sent me"

 

[Minnesota!]

In 27 times to WDW, I have yet to see someone staggering.

I want rum on Pirates. Lots of rum!

 

[tarheelmjfan]

How did what was supposed to be a fun thread turn into yet another alcohol vs. no alcohol in the MK debate? I'm sure the OP didn't really think his or her thread would be exactly what Disney needed to convince them they should add alcohol in mass to MK & the suggestions here would show up in the restaurants & booths in a matter of a few short months, just because DISers suggested it. I read the OP as a chance for people to use their creative imaginations & have a little fun with the thread. It seems to me most people both for & against alcohol in the MK need to relax a bit on the topic. Maybe, the OP can let us know, if he/she was trying to have a little lighthearted fun or demand that Disney add alcohol throughout MK. My guess is it was supposed to be a fun, which it could have been, if people here didn't take everything concerning Disney & apparently alcohol so seriously.

 

[Pixie Dust ✨]

This thread is now 17% less magical.

 

[LSLS]

No, the OP was not about TS restaurants alone, but honestly it looked more tongue in cheek to me than completely serious.

I think that there is room to discuss the pros and cons of wine and beer with a TS meal. WE do have dinner often in the MK, and even though the options do not match the resorts, we like to have dinner anyway.

I honestly do not care if the MK stays dry, but I do not think that the fact that the park has kids in it is a reason to stop looking at the option.

I think we are on the same page on this, that would be my thoughts as well.

I'm new enough I don't know how often this has been discussed/if there is any seriousness to it.

 

[maxiesmom]

It isn't logical to assume someone would change his or her mind over 40 years, without something to base it on. Walt as he made his feelings known over and over in print, video and verbally. When something it right to them, its right. There is nothing now to show better to expand alcohol in the MK, in fact the problems at Epcot is one reason to show it it shouldn't be expanded.

The MK is that special, not reason to change now when anyone wanting a drink can get it 10 minutes away.

AKK

I don't think it is logical to assume he wouldn't have changed his mind either. We don't know! As I said it really doesn't matter a whole lot to me if they expand drinking options at the park or not. However basing it on what someone wanted who died over 40 years ago is not logical either.

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

I don't think it is logical to assume he wouldn't have changed his mind either. We don't know! As I said it really doesn't matter a whole lot to me if they expand drinking options at the park or not. However basing it on what someone wanted who died over 40 years ago is not logical either.

Sorry I disagree and I have a Mountian of vpice, video, written documention to back me up, old or not. To each there own I just don't see any reason to introduce a local to the MK and chanel the special feel andagic of the 2 MK parks.

AKK

 

[Nancyg56]

I think we are on the same page on this, that would be my thoughts as well.

I'm new enough I don't know how often this has been discussed/if there is any seriousness to it.

Oh, there are serious discussions that take place in regards to allowing alcohol into the MK. It has cropped up again with the new Skippers Canteen that has just opened. BOG offers beer and wine with dinner, the thought being that it is considered to be a "French" restaurant. So when SC was being planned folks wondered if it would follow the "new" model of allowing alcohol to be served during the dinner hour.

I don't think it is logical to assume he wouldn't have changed his mind either. We don't know! As I said it really doesn't matter a whole lot to me if they expand drinking options at the park or not. However basing it on what someone wanted who died over 40 years ago is not logical either.

This is the way I see the issue. I think that people have every right to maintain their opinions about alcohol service in the MK, but I cannot understand how any of us can possibly know how Walt would view this in 2016, and then by extension use this argument as THE reason for keeping MK dry.

People and business models change as time goes by , and perhaps Walt would have changed his stance in this area. Perhaps not. But not one of us can possibly know for sure.

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

How did what was supposed to be a fun thread turn into yet another alcohol vs. no alcohol in the MK debate? I'm sure the OP didn't really think his or her thread would be exactly what Disney needed to convince them they should add alcohol in mass to MK & the suggestions here would show up in the restaurants & booths in a matter of a few short months, just because DISers suggested it. I read the OP as a chance for people to use their creative imaginations & have a little fun with the thread. It seems to me most people both for & against alcohol in the MK need to relax a bit on the topic. Maybe, the OP can let us know, if he/she was trying to have a little lighthearted fun or demand that Disney add alcohol throughout MK. My guess is it was supposed to be a fun, which it could have been, if people here didn't take everything concerning Disney & apparently alcohol so seriously.

To many many people the specail nature and magic of the MK is important and they don't want to see it distroyed by bringing alcholol. And yes it will change.


AKK

 

[Nancyg56]

Sorry I disagree and I have a Mountian of vpice, video, written documention to back me up, old or not. To each there own I just don't see any reason to introduce a local to the MK and chanel the special feel andagic of the 2 MK parks.

AKK

But AKK, we know that this was how he felt years ago. We do not know how the years that have passed would have impacted his decision. People do make changes in their mindsets, so unless we have a crystal ball, we just cannot know for sure.

Now, when you say you like the magical feeling that MK has and you do not want any potentially destructive influences to change that...well this is an argument I can respect.

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

Oh, there are serious discussions that take place in regards to allowing alcohol into the MK. It has cropped up again with the new Skippers Canteen that has just opened. BOG offers beer and wine with dinner, the thought being that it is considered to be a "French" restaurant. So when SC was being planned folks wondered if it would follow the "new" model of allowing alcohol to be served during the dinner hour.



This is the way I see the issue. I think that people have every right to maintain their opinions about alcohol service in the MK, but I cannot understand how any of us can possibly know how Walt would view this in 2016, and then by extension use this argument as THE reason for keeping MK dry.

People and business models change as time goes by , and perhaps Walt would have changed his stance in this area. Perhaps not. But not one of us can possibly know for sure.

Nancy we often agree, but not on this one.....I have Walt's unwavering opinion which he never changed in all the years he was alive, regarding alcohol in the MK at DLR and WDW.

It is nor logical to just assume he would change his mind.

I really feel the nature and magic of the parks would change it they did, at.least beyond the BOG.

AKK