Been reading touring guide books, totally baffled

italianfamilia

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Okay I've been reading the unofficial WDW guide 2007, been getting tips, but pretty much the books I have say do these certain rides before 10 am or after 6 pm...uhm, if everyone is reading this won't the rides be hit with an onslought of guests before 10 am, defeating the purpose of doing the touring plan??? hhhmm..just curious as to really wow well these "touring plans" work and if it's really a bad thing to just hit the popular ones when we get there and go by what the kids dictate they want to do. If we don't do everything, that's fine, but I do plan on getting to the most popular early in the day or later...so why the fuse on doing something that sounds more exhausting to plan and do then just going with the flow? Stand in line, then we stand in line, they want out of the line, then we get out. I do know that I want to make the most of the tickets!! OUCH! And if one park is totally overwhelmed, then we take the transportation to another park and hang out there...am I too laid back?? or not "commando" enough?
 
Your plan makes sense to me. I personally enjoy the laid back approach. I normally pick the 2-3 rides in a park that I "must-do". Then I spend the remainder of my time, doing the shows & attractions as they come. I know that I won't get everything in, but I personnally perfer this method than commando style.
 
I also prefer the laid back approach. We have a general idea of which park to go to on which day and which rides we must see but other than that we go with the flow. We don't make ADR's, as a matter of fact I haven't even read any of the restaurant reviews. It's much more relaxed and both the kids and adults seem to enjoy themselves more. I figure it's a vacation -- I'm not stressing out and I'm not coming home tired. Plus, if I miss something this trip I'll just have to go again, won't I?
 
Oh good. I'm so glad that I have some others that feel the same way. Reading all these things has made me think that everyone is on a mission..LOL I just can't handle getting stressed out, stress myself out enough being with the kids on my own..so I will go with the laid back route..hit the important things, SP, SM, Peterpan, Dumbo...we've never been so not sure what they really want to do in the other parks, but we know what we want to do in MK. :) Thanks!
 

You may not have gotten to the part in the UG where it says only 1 in 350 people bother to plan anything ahead of time. So those of us reading the tour guides and these boards will be the happy, organized people getting our favorite things done instead of squinting at a map all day. Good luck. We'll be there 6/3 through 6/9. Kellie-in-Texas
 
I do feel more organized, feeling a little anal actually...LOL but do feel that I might have a slight jump on things. Thanks.
 
I quit reading the tour guides for our last trip when I started to think we were making a mistake going, that it was going to be too busy in the parks, that we wouldn't be able to eat, etc., etc. I said to myself, this is a vacation, have fun.
 
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I try to find a balance -- somewhere in the middle. I find that doing some planning ahead of time helps me because we're not wasting a lot of our precious park time trying to decide what to do. I see lots of people go into a park, grab a map, and then stand around for twenty minutes arguing about what to do. If you have at least a loose plan of attack, you don't waste as much time.

I pick which parks I want to attend on which days, plan a few ADRs in advance, set up a few other things in advance (like MNSSHP and Keys to the Kingdom Tour), then go with the flow. I go during slower times of the year (usually October) so it's not as important to do the "park commando" thing. I always avoid the EMH parks, because I don't like the crowds.

It seems that touring plans would be helpful for people who have never been to a park before (and don't even know where to start!). They can maximize your time to some degree. But I agree, you can certainly get carried away! Because I go every couple of years, I don't feel the need to see everything on each trip - helps minimize the feeling of franticness ("Oh no! I'm going to miss out on something!").
 
I guess I am half commando/half laid back........

I do make adrs.......I like to know that at the end of a long day, I can sit down at a restaurant and be served a meal. I don't like even the "chance" that I may have to eat another burger or slice of pizza for dinner :lmao: To me, the food is just as much of my vacation as the location. :cool1:

I did listen to the advice "get there at at least 15 minutes prior to park opening and utilize fast passes". Both of those saved us lots of time and we pretty much winged the rest. Got to do everything, see everything and still relax and enjoy ourselves.

Some organization is a must to get your money's worth. If you just wanted to relax, you would go to a beach :rotfl:

Have a great vacation. And I totally agree with the idea that what you don't get to do gives you reason to go back!!! :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
 
Oh, no. I guess I'm the very organized one. When we go, I plan everything down to which ride in what order. BUT...I enjoy doing that. It's actually very fun for me. Everyone lets me know what they want to see and what they don't want to see. We're never thinking about what we should do next or if we missed anything. We always make ADRs for everything we can. Personally, I cannot function without organization. My family loves it!!
 
Oh, no. I guess I'm the very organized one. When we go, I plan everything down to which ride in what order. BUT...I enjoy doing that. It's actually very fun for me. Everyone lets me know what they want to see and what they don't want to see. We're never thinking about what we should do next or if we missed anything. We always make ADRs for everything we can. Personally, I cannot function without organization. My family loves it!!

How do you plan what ride to go on, when you don't know what the line is going to be like? Do you make it just in an order? I mean we have the plan of getting to MK, ride Pirates first, and get FP for the two older for SM, and then we want to do Dumbo, Peter, Pooh next, and then just go as we go. In the other parks we don't really know what the rides are like, but have the map now and looking over which direction we head to, like doing the buzz ride, and I don't know really if there is much 6 and 4 can ride, but do the 3-d's shows. AK, do the safari first. etc...is that an okay plan?
 
How do you plan what ride to go on, when you don't know what the line is going to be like? Do you make it just in an order? I mean we have the plan of getting to MK, ride Pirates first, and get FP for the two older for SM, and then we want to do Dumbo, Peter, Pooh next, and then just go as we go. In the other parks we don't really know what the rides are like, but have the map now and looking over which direction we head to, like doing the buzz ride, and I don't know really if there is much 6 and 4 can ride, but do the 3-d's shows. AK, do the safari first. etc...is that an okay plan?

I have several resources that I refer to when making out our touring plans. We always go during the "off season", so that helps alot with crowd levels. Your touring plan will also depend on the age of the people in your group. Right now, our DD is 5. We've been doing all the rides/attractions appropriate for her age first. For example, at MK, we head straight to Fantasyland. Dumbo is always first. That gets way too crowded by mid-morning. From there, we hit all the other rides in Fantasyland. We don't necessarily go in exact order, but it does give us a guide to follow. No thinking about it.

If we were going to Disney Studios, we'd go straight to Voyage of the Little Mermaid or Playhouse Disney first. Oh, and for the shows that are at certain times, there are sites out there that will give you the exact showtimes a week prior to your visit. Once I get those, I just add them into the touring plan.

I've helped many of my friends with their trips. My DH says I should start a business planning other people's trips to WDW.
 
You may not have gotten to the part in the UG where it says only 1 in 350 people bother to plan anything ahead of time. So those of us reading the tour guides and these boards will be the happy, organized people getting our favorite things done instead of squinting at a map all day. Good luck. We'll be there 6/3 through 6/9. Kellie-in-Texas



This is exactly true. MOST people don't plan anything. If you are on this board you are in one of the few that actually plan. A little bit of education on how to use FastPass and which attractions you should do first will make your trip sooooooo much better.
 
I like checking out the times so I can put them in my itenary..that will be a huge help...I will check those out tomorrow and add in the times to the schedule.

I am going to have to read up more on the fastpass. We are heading straight toward pirates on the 4th, then the 6 and 4 get to do their rides in fantasyland first, while I send 20 dd to get the fastpass for what they want to do next..does that sound okay???
 
I used the UG touring plans (I just took out rides/shows no one was interested in). It wasn't commando to me. THe biggest things I took out of it was get there EARLY (like before opening) and get those fastpasses.

Wait for the safari ride? ummm less than 10 minutes. Wait for Soarin? no more than 30 minutes (no fast pass!).

We had one person (me) go get the first fast pass. Then we'd meet up after doing a ride, go on another ride then our fast pass would be up. The tour plan really makes sense and you do a lot of walking, but you also do less time standing in line.

In terms of everyone reading the book. You will not have a problem. A very SMALL majority of people IMO really plan their Disney Vacation that well. We saw so many people who made NO adrs, who didn't even know about fast passes, etc. They just booked the trip, bought some tickets and showed up!
Good luck!
 
I started off like the OP - I hate to feel "overplanned" on vacation. But, I also know that without SOME planning, we'd be the people standing around debating for a half hour over where to go next or where to eat, then get there and find that the wait was 2 hours. I finally came to feel that some planning would save us a LOT of grief. I hope I won't be commando in the extreme, but if I know where to go next, then we won't be standing around wishing for a laptop so I could check the DIS. :)

I guess I don't have much to add except that I have to believe that there are a ton of people who never look at a guidebook or website, so we have that advantage (I read the UOG cover to cover. Review the section on ride capacities to understand the "Dumbo" reasoning.) And, it would really depend on you, your family, and how you function best. If you're good quick decision makers, maybe a plan isn't so important, but if you are like us where we hem and haw over every thing, we'd spend all our time hemming and hawing. ;)

Good luck, and wish us luck too! :goodvibes
 
I agree with other posters that you have to plan for disney to get the most out of it. We got usaully in late sept and plan the parks,meals, break etc. But when it come down to it after that it just best to start early, take the afternoon off and do your evening tour based on park crowds. I just introduced book to a friend at church and her family thought she was "crazy" to plan so much. After first day they saw more than any past visit and wanted to see the rest of the weeks schedule and were on board.
 
The biggest thing that I learned after 2 trips is to alway have a fast pass on the go. I never really thought about getting a fast pass THEN going for lunch, but I will be doing that this year. There are only certain attractions that have fast passes available and it is possible on busy days for them to run out of fast passes for the day. When your fast pass time has arrived (say its between 1:10-2:10 window)at 1:10 go and get another fast pass for a different ride then go ride the one for 1:10-2:10. That is the only time that I am aware of that you are allowed to have 2 fastpasses at one time (temporarily). Try not to be tooooo structured. That was me on the last trip after reading the UG. There are some good things about UG but if you are too serious you could ruin a great trip by being too bossy. Try not to go to MK on Sat. BUSYYYYYYY! I plan on 3 days in MK so that I get to see and do everything. Its our favorite park and ride our favorites 2-3 times. We also do MGM and AK one day each. Were you planning on going to epcot? Some people love this park. Little kids not so much. You MUST see the spectromagic night parade at MK. It is only on certain nights. Check out on DIS to see what days. I think it is under park hours and parades. Take care and have a magical vacation!!!:cheer2:
 
Yeah, another good tip is to avoid the parks if they have EMH if you're trying to avoid the crowds. They tend to be busiest those days.

Even if you have little ones, please don't skip out on a full day of Epcot!! Our dd has been every year (she's five now) and absolutely loves it!!! There is so much for children, including small ones. You just have to know where to go and what to do. They have kidcot fun stops in FW and WS. Those are very helpful when we're in WS. In FW, there's the new Nemo ride, Turtle Talk w/Crush, Living w/the Land, Soarin' (her favorite), Figment, Innoventions, etc. Epcot is our favorite park!!
 
My wife and I took our then-5 year old and 2.5 year old exactly 2 years ago, and again 6 months ago. In May 2005, we were born-again first-timers, as we were last in WDW in 1990. I definitely did NOT want to have to conform to any kind of plan or schedule. Our lives are like that 7 days a week, and I wanted freedom from that. We both work full-time in professional, stressful jobs with lots of responsibility, plus there's also that little parents-of-two-preschoolers-thing.

I just used my brain.

And here's something to make many of your heads spin and have purple heffalumps fly out -- we let our 5 year old son decide which park we went to each day.

In the months leading up to our first trip, I had a great time learning everything I possibly could about WDW. Thank goodness for DISboards. I also went to MANY other websites and some other message boards. I studied the Unofficial Guide and Birnbaum's like they were the Bible itself. I gathered every piece of knowledge that was gatherable (is that a word??!!), plus got a lot of opinions along the way, from the DIS and the other places. I got all the info I could possibly get except what I could get from actual experience.

My 5-year-old ALSO had an encyclopedic knowledge of everything a 5-year-old wants to do. He watched that WDW planning DVD every night for about 6 weeks leading up to our first trip. He could tell me from memory what attractions and rides he wanted to do in each park. Star Tours excited him more than anything, so on our first day in Florida we got to MGM by about 5:30 p.m. based ONLY on his preference. Later that night when we asked him, he said he NEEDED to go to MK the next day to ride Goofy's Barnstormer and do Mickey's Toontown Fair. With that info in mind, I prepped him for what we'd be able to do that first time in MK and what we would have to wait for another day during the week (as we weren't into being absolute commandos).

I had some generalizations in my head, such as avoiding a park on EMH day (if not using EMH), not waiting in a long line for Spaceship Earth at the beginning of the day, the ins and outs of FASTPASS, and other ideas and thoughts obvious to we who are well-versed in WDW knowledge.

Basically, I learned the information BEHIND what goes into making a kick-a$$ touring plan, and I knew how to use it. I was able to make decisions on-the-fly, and it worked perfectly. We did and saw EVERYTHING we wanted to, in a very efficient and FUN manner, because when I was presented with any situation I knew how to assess all the available data and devise a really good plan for what to do over the next few hours.

We had a dinner ADR (then called PS) for each day, but that was a "just in case" thing -- we're more the counter-service type on vacation, anyway. I canceled each ADR when I realized we wouldn't be in the "right place." We did do Hoop Dee Doo Revue, and since I'd already paid so much money for it I was pretty motivated to make that appointment. We also kept one ADR for a character dinner (we really only wanted to do one, anyway). And you know what, my wife and I felt kinda stressed having to time it just right to get to that ADR. Even with a good touring plan, there are uncontrollable variables such as transportation delays, long lines at rides, not wanting to wait around too long ahead of time, etc.

To me, it was fun, it was like being a detective, or an artist. It was a really fun challenge, I enjoy mental puzzles. And this was one with a good cause -- my kids' smiles.

Our most recent trip was just as much fun as our first trip. Except for CRT breakfast, we had no plans, only knowledge and a desire to have fun.

Honestly, if we were given a free trip to WDW but were told we had to keep to a tight schedule, we'd stay home and bum around the beach for a week and RELAX rather than live the way we do every other day of our lives, rushing and checking the clock and checking schedules and being where we "need" to be rather than where we want to be at that moment.
 

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