Beach Club extending contract date??

[sssteele]

Is there anyplace to find original selling prices for DVC resorts. I own points at Beach Club, Boulder Ridge, and Animal Kingdom. I have no idea what I paid per point when I purchased.

 

[RoseGold]

But if it did require consent of individual owners, a "guarantee" that people would accept modification is a non-issue. You offer an incentive, people are free to accept or reject the incentive. If the incentive is big enough, enough people will accept it, to make it work. The end.

They already made the modification, many years ago. It was $15 or quitclaim. They can't change that either way without being unfair to someone, and they claimed they consented for everyone. Maybe that's true, maybe it's not. Guess we will find out in 2042.

 

[CarolMN]

Is there anyplace to find original selling prices for DVC resorts. I own points at Beach Club, Boulder Ridge, and Animal Kingdom. I have no idea what I paid per point when I purchased.

There is a history in the DVC Resource Center that may help you.

History of DVC Compiled from DIS posts since 1997

 

[Lorana]

Is there anyplace to find original selling prices for DVC resorts. I own points at Beach Club, Boulder Ridge, and Animal Kingdom. I have no idea what I paid per point when I purchased.

If you look up your deeds on the OC Comptroller website, you can figure out your original price per point by finding the deed tax paid and the points on the contract, then divide deed tax by .007 for sales price, divide sales price by # points, and that roughly equals your price per point.

 

[Wakey]

They wouldnt even have to gut the hotels given members are paying for a nice upkeep right to the end. A decoration, maybe room refurbs could be done relatively cheaply for the money to be made. Some nice character statues as it rethemes to a film, some nice pool features, a new restaurant and bar based around the latest Pixar film. Then increase all the points on a new chart by 50% and charge the current equivalent of $200 a point. Watch the $billions roll in. I bet they can’t wait.
And with so many rooms ending at the same time, just turn them into cash rooms for a while, maybe giving ex members a hefty discount to fill them whilst awaiting refurb schedule.

 

[Bearval]

They wouldnt even have to gut the hotels given members are paying for a nice upkeep right to the end. A decoration, maybe room refurbs could be done relatively cheaply for the money to be made. Some nice character statues as it rethemes to a film, some nice pool features, a new restaurant and bar based around the latest Pixar film. Then increase all the points on a new chart by 50% and charge the current equivalent of $200 a point. Watch the $billions roll in. I bet they can’t wait.
And with so many rooms ending at the same time, just turn them into cash rooms for a while, maybe giving ex members a hefty discount to fill them whilst awaiting refurb schedule.

My guess would be that they do one at a time depending upon which 2042 resort can be done the quicker and or generate the largest ROI. They can rent the others as hotel rooms until they are going to redo them.. They will either do a complete demolition or major overhaul depending on which will be cheaper or faster. I wouldn't be surprised if HH and VB are sold off in 2042 so they don't have to worry about overhauling and selling these too.

 

[Skyborndancer]

Exactly. Disney is planning long term. Riviera restrictions are not an anomaly. They are the new normal for the next generation of DVC.
Let's remember, for Disney -- Their big profit is when they first open and sell a resort. New profits are minor after the resort is sold out.
They have been opening resorts at Disney approximately every 2-3 years... let's stretch that into the future, starting in the past..
Beach Club -- 2002
Saratoga Spring - 2004
Animal Kingdom - 2007
Bay Lake Tower - 2009
(non WDW Aulani in 2011)
Grand Floridian 2013
Polynesian 2015
Copper Creek 2017
Riviera 2019
Reflections -- planned for 2022, likely delayed but likely not cancelled.

[...]

So assume.. Reflections delayed to 2023-2024
2027 ____
2030 ____
2033 ____
2036_____
2039_____

So that's approximately 5 slots they will want to fill in before 2042. Where they going to put them?!? The best WDW real estate already has resorts. Now, I have some suspicions... they might try mod/value based DVC properties where studios run 8-10 points per night. (and rooms are smaller, in lower quality locations). I can imagine a DVC located adjoining Disney Springs.

I like your Disney Springs adjacent DVC idea.

Maybe Disney will do a HS / Starwars DVC. I bet Star wars would be a huge cash cow.

I also wonder if there will be another park in 20 years. I would hope so!

 

[_auroraborealis_]

Maybe Disney will do a HS / Starwars DVC. I bet Star wars would be a huge cash cow.

I doubt it.

Commiting to some kind of specific IP for 50 years is hazardous. They certainly won't do a timeshare anything like the starcruiser, which is a land-based cruise fundamentally.

They could do a space-future theme that has flexibility. But when you look at plans for Riviera as they came through, and Reflections before cancel, they are staying in broad areas that will age well.

 

[Skyborndancer]

Commiting to some kind of specific IP for 50 years is hazardous.

Hmm. Good point!

 

[havoc315]

I like your Disney Springs adjacent DVC idea.

Maybe Disney will do a HS / Starwars DVC. I bet Star wars would be a huge cash cow.

I also wonder if there will be another park in 20 years. I would hope so!

Fifth gate rumors have lingered for years. Most of the "insiders" and "experts" don't see a fifth gate coming any time in the planned future. (anything can happen in 20+ years, but don't expect it in the next 10 years).
Reality is, Epcot, AK and DHS still all have room for more attractions, all need more attractions. Prior to Covid, there were rumors of a Pandora expansion at AK. Some additional features and attractions for Epcot has been scrapped due to Covid $$$ losses.
So the idea of launching a new park, creating a dozen new attractions for it.... They still have to "finish" the other parks before they think of a fifth.

A Star Wars themed DVC would be interesting, but they wouldn't want to compete with their own galactic cruiser hotel. Truthfully, I'd see a Star Wars theme matching well with a value resort.. like ASM or POP. Just somewhat campy generalized Star Wars theming.

Saratoga Springs is already "adjacent" to Disney Springs. But DVCs directly inside Disney Springs... over some of the storefronts and restaurants, could be interesting. A chance to "live" downtown.

... and I'd have to really look at a map, but a deluxe resort/DVC that is walking adjacent to DHS would be a good seller. Boardwalk is the closest right now, but it's still a moderate walk. Not quite as close as Contemporary to Magic Kingdom or Beach Club to Epcot.
One excellent location would be the Boardwalk tennis courts: Tear down the tennis courts and add a tower. Could also build between CBR and DHS parking lot... the empty land that just has the Skyliner cutting through.