BCV Villagators ?

StephenKay

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Hi there,

Its been a while sinceI heard anything of the BCV villagators, are they still there? I remember something about 1 being removed over a year a go. What's the latest?
 
Well as of last September there was one hanging around with all the turtles!
 
I didn't see any villagators there in May... then again, I wasn't really seeking out any villagators... .
 

We looked and did not see the villagator at BCV last week.
 
Didn't see any gators in December or over Easter when we were there. I hope to stop by this coming weekend while I am at VWL and take a peek!

pinnie
 
Why would anyone want a cute(?) dangerous reptile in a resort?
 
Alligators live in Florida. I've seen the over in the MK in the lagoon surrounding Tom Sawyer's Island. We have some where I live, though not in my neighborhood. They are not expected, but they do show up occasionally.

I guess if you live where alligators don't live, it's kind of neat to see them in the wild. The one at BCV did not climb the bank and attack the people. They probably moved it away from the resort.
 
It was strange that right next to the pool and the sidewalk to the busses was a wild aligator. Used to see people feeding it, despite the $500 Florida fine. Always wondered if it could be asleep in the bushes along the sidewalk when one didn't see it in the water. I wonder what prevents it from climbing the banks of the canal as it gets increasingly comfortable and unknowledgable and unknowing guests feed it from the bridge.
 
We were at BCV from June 4 -11 and did not see any villagators. There was one there last year though. Annmarie
 
The gator is gone and has been for a while now. It was gone when we were there in December and again in April. In April, we asked about it and were told he was removed late last fall because he had gone beyond the size limit and was big enough to move.

Disney was well aware of him but had to wait until he was the legal size to move. I am not familiar with Florida laws but I guess they have to be a certain size to move and he had reached it.


However, another one could appear any day there, it is Florida after all...:)

Heidi
 
Beach_Bound9 said:
It was strange that right next to the pool and the sidewalk to the busses was a wild aligator. Used to see people feeding it, despite the $500 Florida fine. Always wondered if it could be asleep in the bushes along the sidewalk when one didn't see it in the water. I wonder what prevents it from climbing the banks of the canal as it gets increasingly comfortable and unknowledgable and unknowing guests feed it from the bridge.
I do volunteer work at Everglades National Park and walk within a few feet of large alligators (we consider any alligator bigger than 10 feet "large") on a regular basis. We also have to move them out of paths and roadways occasionally. We know what we are doing and we do it safely - both for us and for the animal. Frequent human contact is not a problem. We have hundreds of thousands of visitors close to alligators every year without any incidents.

However, alligators who are fed (a profoundly stupid thing to do), can be dangerous. Feeding alligators (or any wild animal) has only one outcome - "A fed animal is a dead animal."

If the human food doesn't kill them, they become pests and have to be destroyed. Alligators are rarely moved successfully. Sometimes they return and repeat the behavior which got them moved, and they get destroyed. Usually, moving them puts them in a strange habitat, in competition with other animals, and they end up getting killed. There is no size requirement, but if in fact Disney was going to move an alligator, they may have waited past the April-May mating period to give the animal a better chance of survival.

In the wild, alligators are generally placid, docile creatures -- unless you are swimming in their habitat, in which case they see you as food. If you come in contact with an alligator at Disney, however, I'd give it a wide berth. It's undoubtedly been fed, and therefore I would consider it dangerous. Alligators are MUCH faster than humans on land, and even a little four-footer can spoil your day.
 
I think it is Disney policy to move alligators when they are 4 feet or more.

they will move any dangerous alligators immediately.

Dangerous are near the resorts.
 
The canal that goes between BCV & YC is part of the firebreak canal that completely circles EPCOT. There are some segments of the canal that are very open (eg: EPCOT parking lot) and some very secluded areas as well. There could be alligators anywhere in the canal - not just the villas.
 
We were at the BCV a couple years ago, just taking in a walk from the BWV and wanted to check in on the alligator. We were watching the alligator, when a family walked past......they stopped because they remembered they had forgot to give the alligator his Bologna 'today'! I was a little annoyed at this, as I had to spend the next few days explaining to my then 5 yr old DS why 'WE' don't feed the alligators and then why 'some' people make bad choices.
 
You could substitute 'bears' for 'gators' and be right on as to what happens here re feeding the bears! Once fed, they become dangerous. There is a one strike rule here...if the bear is caught breaking in to a house or a dumpster, it is tagged on the ear and moved. If it comes back, it is destroyed acc. to policy.

To think that people are feeding the gators is frightening! Did you inform the bologna's feeders that they could be fined $500?

Sigh.

I didn't see any gators my last visit to BWV, but then, I wasn't looking!
 
They don't care about fines. At Everglades NP a couple of years ago, a visitor had his daughter "go hold the alligator's hand" for a picture. (Just for the record, this was an 11 1/2 foot alligator!). Before the law enforcement ranger could intervene, she held his hand and Daddy the Dumb snapped the picture.

When the ranger wrote Daddy a $500 citation (which also carried with it another trip to Miami for his mandatory court appearance), he just told her, "Well, it was a $500 picture."

This is not heresay -- I witnessed that with my own eyes and disbelieving ears.

[Edit: What Belle says about bears is true in spades. Two years ago at Yellowstone, we had a visitor try to lure a bear INSIDE his car so he could get "cool video" of the bear in the car with his wife! His comment? "It's only a black bear...not a grizzly!"]
 
JimMIA said:
They don't care about fines. At Everglades NP a couple of years ago, a visitor had his daughter "go hold the alligator's hand" for a picture. (Just for the record, this was an 11 1/2 foot alligator!). Before the law enforcement ranger could intervene, she held his hand and Daddy the Dumb snapped the picture.

When the ranger wrote Daddy a $500 citation (which also carried with it another trip to Miami for his mandatory court appearance), he just told her, "Well, it was a $500 picture."

This is not heresay -- I witnessed that with my own eyes and disbelieving ears.

[Edit: What Belle says about bears is true in spades. Two years ago at Yellowstone, we had a visitor try to lure a bear INSIDE his car so he could get "cool video" of the bear in the car with his wife! His comment? "It's only a black bear...not a grizzly!"]

actually, Feeding alligators is a second-degree misdemeanor punishable by up to 60 days in jail and/or a $500 fine.

I hope the ranger noted the comment on the citation and the guy got both!!!!

And why doesn't Disney post this at the canal????
 















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