BBB NOT for Teens

[TotalSnowWhite]

Well, you're quoting me out of context, so I'm going to address your post.

What I said specifically was "Complaints on the DISboards accomplish nothing productive or constructive".

Obviously, I should have been more specific; what some here have misinterpreted as an attempt to squelch discussion was instead meant to be a reminder that merely voicing a complaint in this forum is no substitute for contacting Disney with those complaints. Disney takes complaints posted on public internet forums a lot less seriously than they do when they are contacted directly by a Guest. Consequently, I provided the OP with the address for Guest Communications. I apologize for any misunderstanding.

To the OP: I am genuinely and sincerely sorry you and your DD had that experience and I hope that you bring it to Disney's attention.

It may not be productive or constructive to you, personally, but I'm willing to bet the OP feels better. As I said, she got an address, as did anyone else with complaints, if she chooses to write. That seems to be a productive/constructive outcome or you wouldn't have posted it, right?

Your original post seemed harsh and came across (to several, it seems) as "I've said it a thousand times...tell Disney...I don't want to hear complaints again...there's no reason to post complaints here because it won't get results from the big bosses...etc." Maybe all she wanted to do was vent. Perhaps if you started that post the way you ended this one, it wouldn't have come across so sharp.

Whew! Feels good to get that out! See, venting is productive. I got it out, and you explained yourself in response to my original vent.

 

[Liann]

I guess I've been on the internet too long cuz I knew what you meant totalsnowwhite. You were bypassing your opinion and giving the OP the direct link to make real changes At least that's what I took from it and it's great advice. Blow off steam here and do something about it!

I'm really bummed to hear there was a problem at all cuz I was really really really hoping this would be something my 12 DD would want to do WITH me on our 2nd trip in 2010 when she is 14. We will be going with her BFF and family and they too will be getting a "doo" if we all decide. But then again maybe it's about how Disney "open" each person is. We all pretend we are 5 yrs old once we get there.

Geesh I miss Mickey.

 

[maccagerl]

It may not be productive or constructive to you, personally, but I'm willing to bet the OP feels better. As I said, she got an address, as did anyone else with complaints, if she chooses to write. That seems to be a productive/constructive outcome or you wouldn't have posted it, right?

Your original post seemed harsh and came across (to several, it seems) as "I've said it a thousand times...tell Disney...I don't want to hear complaints again...there's no reason to post complaints here because it won't get results from the big bosses...etc." Maybe all she wanted to do was vent. Perhaps if you started that post the way you ended this one, it wouldn't have come across so sharp.

Whew! Feels good to get that out! See, venting is productive. I got it out, and you explained yourself in response to my original vent.

The OP's 'complaint', and 'complaints' that others have posted on the boards are productive and constructive to me because I don't know everything there is to know about Disney, and thus I'm able to learn a little something from each of their experiences.
So to the OP, thanks for posting !!

 

[jenseib]

When I read the OP's first post I had a flash back to Sept 07 in Epcot when we walked by two teen age girls 16/17 dressed head to toe in Disney Princess. While they looked great, they acted miserable. I felt so sorry for them because they both looked like they were about to cry.

My two girls would never go for it now, but would have loved it when they were much younger. It's a cute idea.

Girls that age aren't even allowed to wear cotumes inot the parks, and very rare ti find them there in that size, so they were eithr younger, or they broght the costumes from home and no one stopped them at the gates.
They also could've been miserable about something totally different too, like dad said they couldn't do something they wanted to do.
I've had my sweet little DD all dressed up in an outfit of her chosing and hair done up, (just at home, not at BBB or Disney) but her crying becuase we aren't doing what she wants at that exact moment. And I have a 16 YO that is really good at complaining and looking miserable about not getting her way, but still looks good. LOL!

 

[luvthemouse71]

Seriously, I can't believe you wrote that, you're ok with calling little girls names. Then you go and contradict yourself about going there.



Because this in the only place that Disney overcharges?


I know that the BBB is a personal choice for each and every parent that walks through its door, kind of like choosing a hotel, places to eat or rides. You hear it's to expensive, to much makeup, don't like the hairstyles and so on and that's OK it's still your choice to go or not. What's NOT ok are these people who post comments, directly or indirectly, referring to CHILDREN in derogatory ways. Bottom line is if you don't like it, don't do it. IMHO

And to the OP I am so sorry that your did not have the magical experience that she should have had.

No, BBB is not the only place that WDW overcharges. But, still, it's foolishness IMHO for parents to spend that kind of money for what amounts to dressup. Now, I would never refer to a little girl as a slut or tramp, but, they do go overboard with the makeup/hairdos. Obviously, there's a large group of people who feel this way...I do think perhaps it comes down to several factors.

Kids these days are very spoiled. I read an article(Boston Globe) where some woman said that she didn't want her child to feel any effects from the recession, so the kid got everything and anything she wanted, while the parents were brown bagging it for lunch, cutting their own hair, even cutting down on medical care for themselves so "Princess" wouldn't be aware of any money issues. I feel this is stupid..the child should have clothes on her back, food in her stomach, and medical care, of course. But, nothing wrong with teaching the child that you can't always have what you want and that some things are just too expensive and not worth the money. I believe BBB capitalizes on this tendency of parents now to treat their kids like royalty. Of course, you can get the cheaper package(still overpriced,BTW) but many parents are going to be suckered into the whole package because they see other parents doing it and don't want their kid to feel bad.

The other factor in the overdone look is the whole pageant mentality...I swear, the women who work in BBB must be frustrated beauty queens.Some don't go overboard with the makeup so much, but the hairdos. Good God! They must use a whole can of hairspray per kid!

But, you're right. This is just my opinion. However, I have the right to express it. I have the right not to let BBB cause money hemorrage from my wallet. I even have the right to roll my eyes when I see how they gussy these kids up.

Flame away.

 

[Caribbeanprincess]

Oh dear, the old discussion returns. I am almost done with my teen years (I'm 19) and I just had my first BBB experience this past December. I must say it was one of the most magical experiences I've had in WDW. It wasn't just the hair, or the make up which you could hardly notice, it was the stories the FGMIT told and how much it was to actually be in the castle. I would do it again without hesitating and I would love for my future daughters to experience it someday. That said, I don't believe children should be forced into anything, so I would obviously ask them if they wanted to have this experience and then go ahead with it.

 

[ScarletFire]

Amen to that!! I get so tired of hearing Dis members being told that they have NO business complaining about an incident they had while on their trip to the world. I had no idea that we were only allowed to discuss things that were positive about their trips, not the negative points. Give me a break.

Really; totally agree!

 

[MissyDVC]

No, BBB is not the only place that WDW overcharges. But, still, it's foolishness IMHO for parents to spend that kind of money for what amounts to dressup. Now, I would never refer to a little girl as a slut or tramp, but, they do go overboard with the makeup/hairdos. Obviously, there's a large group of people who feel this way...I do think perhaps it comes down to several factors.

Kids these days are very spoiled. I read an article(Boston Globe) where some woman said that she didn't want her child to feel any effects from the recession, so the kid got everything and anything she wanted, while the parents were brown bagging it for lunch, cutting their own hair, even cutting down on medical care for themselves so "Princess" wouldn't be aware of any money issues. I feel this is stupid..the child should have clothes on her back, food in her stomach, and medical care, of course. But, nothing wrong with teaching the child that you can't always have what you want and that some things are just too expensive and not worth the money. I believe BBB capitalizes on this tendency of parents now to treat their kids like royalty. Of course, you can get the cheaper package(still overpriced,BTW) but many parents are going to be suckered into the whole package because they see other parents doing it and don't want their kid to feel bad.

The other factor in the overdone look is the whole pageant mentality...I swear, the women who work in BBB must be frustrated beauty queens.Some don't go overboard with the makeup so much, but the hairdos. Good God! They must use a whole can of hairspray per kid!

But, you're right. This is just my opinion. However, I have the right to express it. I have the right not to let BBB cause money hemorrage from my wallet. I even have the right to roll my eyes when I see how they gussy these kids up.

Flame away.

And in my opinion, it is foolishness for you to spend any of YOUR time concerning yourself with what others choose to do with their family and their money. And it is also MY right to look at you rolling your eyes at my THRILLED child and shake my head in disbelief. This topic always makes me crazy. I really do understand that it is a matter or personal taste and choice but what I don't understand who would look at a happy child and roll their eyes or refer to the place they just came from a "slutique". So sad and so not in line with the magic and fantasy of the environment.

 

[Mickey & Minnie Mom]

But, nothing wrong with teaching the child that you can't always have what you want and that some things are just too expensive and not worth the money.

I have the right not to let BBB cause money hemorrage from my wallet. I even have the right to roll my eyes when I see how they gussy these kids up.

Just Booked 2009 at the Poly..Lagoon club level...

And now too my eyes shall roll!

 

[seashell724]

Aw. I feel bad for OP. I am glad you posted that though. I empathize on what a mom may feel trying to make a day special for her daughter and then having that happen.

 

[maxiesmom]

And now too my eyes shall roll!

Mine too! I think it is pretty ironic that someone posts complaining about the cost of BBB, and how we are spoiling our kids, and then turns around and spends over $600 a night on a hotel room.

Everyone can spend their own money how they wish. To me, seeing my niece light up and truly believe she was a princess after her visit to the BBB was much more important than the room we went to sleep in that night.

 

[Dorisk3]

Both of my DDs refuse to even go near that place. They are 10 and 6 and I am actually glad. I was not impressed and I realize some kids are into it but I just can't see it.

I thought I was the only one that felt this way! To me, all little girls are beautiful- and when they come out of the BBB- they look very overdone and plastic.

To the OP- I am sorry that your experience was a bad one. It may be worth following up on- particularly since you were given some bad information. I guess one day it will hopefully become more of a funny story than a bad memory.

 

[missfigment]

I am a young mom with a little boy and maybe will one day have a little girl, but I just see the BBB as silly waste of money from what Ive seen and read...now that is just my opinion ....and there are those who will totally disagree and thats okay....however, I do love seeing the little girls dressed up as the princesses in the park...but I'll tell you what, I think I like seeing the ones who come popping out of their car in the disney parking lot that mom has done her hair and makeup....I think that is pretty sweet. If my "one day" daughter wants to dress as a princess in the park...I'd be happy to do hair and makeup...." Maybe a little more memorable.

I can remember getting ready the day before disney with my mom and we'd make this big deal and paint our nails and toenails for each other. I remember that still and I'm 27 years old.

 

[maxiesmom]

I thought I was the only one that felt this way! To me, all little girls are beautiful- and when they come out of the BBB- they look very overdone and plastic.

The thing is, the adult does have final say over how much makeup is put on the girls, and even gets to pick the colors. So if you want your daughter to have the experience, but don't want her to look overly made up, she doesn't have to be. My niece had the princess updo with the little crown, and then just soft shades of pink were used on her cheeks and lips. She didn't look plastic at all! You can adjust the experience to suit your tastes.

 

[DznyDreamz]

Yikes, these are some pretty harsh "opinions" over children's hairstyles

My DD has mixed feelings over BBB. She absolutely loved it her first time and had a more princess-y bun. It was her 5th birthday, we were having lunch in the castle and she was beside herself with her special non-princess dress chose just for the occasion. The whole experience of the room itself is magical and there are just some things (such as seeing your child the happiest they can be) that can not have a price tag placed on them. Call that money hemoraging from your wallet, call it irresponsible, I don't really care.

Her next time she went, she got the pop style with the extensions. She smiled politely, thanked the FGIT and looked happy as a clam. Until we walked outside and she burst into tears and hated it.

There was no reason to complain to anyone, it was the style SHE chose that she didn't like. Why does that entitle me to compensation? I had the pamphlet, she chose the style, I chose to pay. She didn't like it. Buyer beware I guess..

From now on, she is going to have a up-do at the salon at our hotel while I get my pedicure. She gets to feel special but in a bigger girl way which is what she wants.

My DD is NOT spoiled. She doesn't get what she wants for the sake of wanting. I work hard for my money and when I am on vacation with my family, we enjoy the fruits of our labor in whatever way that makes us happy.

To the OP, I'm sorry the experience wasn't magical to you or your DD.

 

[woodkins]

BBB may not be for everyone...for my daughter it is MAGIC! She really believes that the stylists ARE fairy Godmothers in training and that the pixie dust CAN make her dreams and wishes come true. I let her choose her hair style & we have done all 3 of them. I don't think they are "tarty" or slutty as some other members have posted. Some of the outfits I have seen on people in the park are far more innappropriate than some colored hair and sparkle lip gloss that they put on at the BBB for sure! My daughter LOVES the entire experience, sitting in the fancy chairs, chatting up the FGIT, asking her where the princess sleep, what princesses hair she has doen ;-) etc. The look on her face when they turn her around is priceless to me. Also the non-dress package is imo not outrageous. If you purchase the crown or hair extensions, makeup set and nail polishes from a WDW gift shop (they do sell them) they add up to at least $30. So for the extra $20 you are paying for the salon experience, and I know here in NY a salon visit is at least $20 if not waaaay more!!
Here is my daughter from her last 2 BBB visits...somehow tarty and slutty aren't the first thoughts that pop into my mind

 

[monkeybug]

I have to admit that I am not a fan of the makeup or hairstyles at BBB (just going off pics. as we have never been), but I know my daughters going to have a blast and that's honestly all I care about! I guess I kinda' look at it like Halloween. No, I would not let my son wear a gorilla suit to the grocery store on your average day, but for that one day, it's OK to break the rules! I mean that's why its fun right?
I will say that when my friend and I looked at some of the pics. from BBB I said "great! My daughter is going to be traipsing about the MK looking like a prosti-tot all day!" (I mean really? would most of us EVER let even a teenager leave the house like that? I'm not Miss Little house on the prairie or anything, but some of the styles and makeup do have a bit of that street cornerish look do they not???)
I say life is more fun if we can have a sense of humor about things, right?
Not trying to make anyone upset...just sayin' I'm ok with forkin' over big bucks for a look that some may (including myself) say can be a bit on the trampy side! It's all in good fun!

 

[PrincessBelle39]

I honestly must have missed something. We did the castle package last trip with my two girls and their two cousins. The amount of makeup on them was so minimal. There was nothing trampy at all about it. A tiny bit of eyeshadow, a little bit of gloss on the lips-hardly any colour to it, and a bit of light pink powder on their cheeks that you couldn't see afterwards. I really can't say that in the time we spent in the parks, that I saw any child with exceptional amounts of makeup at all.
The picture of Woodkins little girl above shows in a sense how my girls looked makeup wise when we left. There was nothing overdone about it at all. She looks adorable - I'm not sure where trampy comes from.
I agree that everyone has the right to make the decision on how they spend their money. I choose to spend mine at BBB. I think some of the negative comments are more than a bit harsh though.

 

[joy13]

I have to admit that I am not a fan of the makeup or hairstyles at BBB (just going off pics. as we have never been), but I know my daughters going to have a blast and that's honestly all I care about! I guess I kinda' look at it like Halloween. No, I would not let my son wear a gorilla suit to the grocery store on your average day, but for that one day, it's OK to break the rules! I mean that's why its fun right?
I will say that when my friend and I looked at some of the pics. from BBB I said "great! My daughter is going to be traipsing about the MK looking like a prosti-tot all day!" (I mean really? would most of us EVER let even a teenager leave the house like that? I'm not Miss Little house on the prairie or anything, but some of the styles and makeup do have a bit of that street cornerish look do they not???)
I say life is more fun if we can have a sense of humor about things, right?
Not trying to make anyone upset...just sayin' I'm ok with forkin' over big bucks for a look that some may (including myself) say can be a bit on the trampy side! It's all in good fun!

What pictures are you looking at I have not seen one picture that looks trampish at all - look at the post above yours - does that little girl look trampish? That's how the girls look when the leave BBB.

 

[monkeybug]

What pictures are you looking at I have not seen one picture that looks trampish at all - look at the post above yours - does that little girl look trampish? That's how the girls look when the leave BBB.

OK so I want to clarify that I certainly don't think any of the little girls are anything but adorable, they are just playing dress up after all! I am also not going to comment on anyone's picture in particular...I would never want to hurt someones feelings! So I can't really point out any picture in particular, but a lot do seem to have copious amounts of blue eyeshadow, bright pink rouge, very colorful and spiky hair, and glitter, glitter everywhere! I don't know about anyone else, but If I saw someone sporting that look in "real" life...well I might put that in the slightly trampy category (no offense if that's what you wear! I am very much a "to each their own" sort person! I personally probably sport some down right awful looks more often than I would like to think)
Don't get me wrong! If my daughter wants the makeup slathered on like frosting on a cupcake, and wants every color of the rainbow in her hair, I am all for it!! Just that, you know...she won't be walking out of the house like that until she is old enough to figure out how to do it behind my back!!!
Oh and the little girl in the photo above is super cute, and it doesn't even look like she has makeup on! I just got the impression from the other photos I have seen, that at BBB more is more! (and why shouldn't it be? It's fun that way!)