Attack of the Lakeshore Lodge

[Girlstar30]

Im sure one day I will have the spare points to justify staying. But I cant commit myself to it possibly being my only option (home resort) since it's so point heavy. Again I would stay home before I stayed OKW/SSR so those are non options for me even if available.

I am going to stay at SSR next year, im gunna stay in Congress park with a DS view and im gunna like it damnit

 

[VGCgroupie]

I am going to stay at SSR next year, im gunna stay in Congress park with a DS view and im gunna like it damnit

Message me from the 3rd internal bus stop.

Oh yeah people said LSL might have internal bus stops...

 

[Girlstar30]

Message me from the 3rd internal bus stop.

Oh yeah people said LSL might have internal bus stops...

I wont rent a car so I can have the full experience

 

[PolyRob]

I think we’ll see boulder/copper creek value… but the issue is going to be view categories. Standard probably hits that benchmark but quickly resort view and firework view rooms will exceed it.

I hope it doesn’t contain the ridiculous view premiums that Poly does (which escalates views by 35/70% points respectively) and does more traditional 20/40% premiums. VDH only really escalates around 10% for its “view”.

I can't imagine it will mirror the CCV/BRV chart, especially when it will most likely sleep more in each room category and be billed as a super ultra premium nature inspired resort.

I also believe there will be a theme park/fireworks view category. If there is a fireworks viewing terrace, there will be rooms with similar views.

If we look at WL rack rate, "fireworks view" is about 35% more cash. I imagine we'll see something similar with the resort view and highest view category here.

They're going to do the most for the A frames and I guess this new premium room, but I wont pay extra for a ft wilderness or lazy river view Im pretty sure I wont be staying at the A frames. I like my trips long and A frame would kill that.

There will literally be views of the back of Pioneer Hall. Resort view will be diverse!

 

[Girlstar30]

I can't imagine it will mirror the CCV/BRV chart, especially when it will most likely sleep more in each room category and be billed as a super ultra premium nature inspired resort.

I also believe there will be a theme park/fireworks view category. If there is a fireworks viewing terrace, there will be rooms with similar views.

If we look at WL rack rate, "fireworks view" is about 35% more cash. I imagine we'll see something similar with the resort view and highest view category here.


There will literally be views of the back of Pioneer Hall. Resort view will be diverse!

It better be better than vgc "viewing terrace"

 

[RivGirl]

I wont rent a car so I can have the full experience

Call me when you call your first Über then. I didn’t last a day there without calling an Über LOL.

I think you will enjoy Congress Park with a view of the Springs, though!

 

[Girlstar30]

Call me when you call your first Über then. I didn’t last a day there without calling an Über LOL.

I think you will enjoy Congress Park with a view of the Springs, though!

I will post a "Going to SSR and OKW for the First Time Thread" as I feel like i should bang them out back to back Its going to be rough, but im up for the challenge

 

[Mouseforward]

SSR congress park is #1 on my "Bus only" hotel list. I never needed a car, and they have more busses so I never waited but it was August not peak season by far.

Being able to walk to the Springs makes it #2 on my Sister and BIL's list if they don't have their GC. To be honest, the rooms are themed so similar its just that they are smaller than RIV. Having so many restaurants to choose from is pretty nice and some of the best on property are in the Springs.

It is also a great " flight getting in super late so why waste points" first night room. If they keep the free water park then you can get up and go to the water park while waiting for your room and let them transfer the luggage.

 

[Kailunkat]

Very possible. Especially if they have good dining, you can stay at CCV/BRV on your resale points and head over there to experience the cool dining options. I guess this is an example why ending pool hopping could be a good thing.

Resale owner eating lunch, wearing my pool clothes and running thru that gate after someone leaves jk jk

I would imagine the LSL will have a bracelet/security entrance the same way Stormalong does now. You need to show proof of your hotel reservation at the gate and get a daily bracelet to go with it - even in the off season.

I can't imagine it will mirror the CCV/BRV chart, especially when it will most likely sleep more in each room category and be billed as a super ultra premium nature inspired resort.

I also believe there will be a theme park/fireworks view category. If there is a fireworks viewing terrace, there will be rooms with similar views.

If we look at WL rack rate, "fireworks view" is about 35% more cash. I imagine we'll see something similar with the resort view and highest view category here.


There will literally be views of the back of Pioneer Hall. Resort view will be diverse!

I agree - there is zero chance of LSL being on a CCV/BRV points chart and they will follow the lead for PIT with a clean natural theme and a premium points chart to go with it.

Although I don't think you could classify the view as a "theme park" view, the rooms on the lakeside of the building will absolutely have a fireworks view to MK. The REALLY freaky thing is that the top floors of the backside might be able to see EPCOT. I have to think that Spaceship Earth will be visible at least.

 

[airjay75]

I will add VDH charts are okay for me also. Poly Tower
Edit: Is should double check my statement, it could be that I am usually 2 or 3 nights only at VDH and at WDW minimum 4 so that could be why..

You made me curious about VDH vs RIV points charts. Just never looked at VDH since I really have no plans to try and book there anytime soon. Looks like VDH is pretty comparable to RIV. Deluxe studios at RIV a little more, but they also sleep 5 vs. 4. 1 and 2 BRs - VDH looks to be mostly in the middle of RIV resort and preferred views for most periods. 3 BR GVs at RIV are a little bit more. Of course, none of that takes account of the ToT.

Just a did quick comparison of a 1 BR and 2 BR for Easter week and threw in PIT too (which may not be the best week to compare, just one I'd be most interested in):

1BR
RIV Resort: 426
RIV Preferred: 502
VDH: 394 + $1,166.54 (about 58 points if valued at $20/pt) = 452 points
PIT Resort: 496
PIT Preferred: 562
PIT TP: 641

2 BR
RIV Resort: 565
RIV Preferred: 646
VDH: 594 + $1,758.86 (about 88 points) = 682
PIT Resort: 670
PIT Preferred: 795
PIT TP: 938

So, maybe, if you stick with resort view at PIT, in some room categories sometimes, once you take account of the ToT, VDH is a few more points than PIT. I suppose if you wanted to get even more granular, we'd need to calculate the cost per point for dues since you're probably not booking any of the the resort view or VDH rooms without owning at these resorts. That probably brings the cost of PIT down just a bit (for now).

This all makes me think even more that LSL is going come in mostly with a points chart worse than RIV, but slightly better than PIT.

 

[Brian Noble]

and head over there to experience the cool dining options

Having done the walk between (what was then) VWL and the Fort several times, I'm pretty sure most WDW vacationers won't do it, just as most people do not walk from BWV to Studios, even though it is very doable.

I am going to stay at SSR next year, im gunna stay in Congress park with a DS view and im gunna like it damnit

I really like SSR. It's not steps from a theme park, but it has other things going for it.

The vibe is "understatedly sophisticated." It is subtle, and a lot of people miss it for "not themed at all," but I really appreciate it. There are some nice pools, and enough room around them for the size of the resort. The walking paths are mostly on the interior of the resort, with the buildings separating you from the roads, so it's a great place to stroll. When the resort was first developed, it had a McMansions on a Moonscape vibe, but the landscaping has grown in nicely since then.

The easy proximity to Disney Springs gives you access to some of the best dining---in both quality and value---in the World, and a solid set of entertainment offerings when the Parks are more been-there-done-that. For example, I caught 311 at the House of Blues a few years ago, and had a great time. The resort's location is fairly central to several main arteries, so the bus times are shorter than it seems like they should be.

It has the DVC 2.0 layout, which leaves a lot to be desired, but the most recent re-design makes the most of the space, and the Villas are significantly more funcitonal and comfortable than they were prior.

Finally: It's one of the DVC resorts that everyone loves to hate, and I like hanging out with the underdogs.

 

[byurick]

It cracks me up how people on this forum act like their vacation is ruined because they're forced to stay at SSR.

 

[atthebeachclub]

I haven't yet stayed at SSR, and I'm not sure when/if I will, but looking at trips at busy times of the year in 2 bedrooms those point charts start looking pretty nice...

 

[PolyRob]

This all makes me think even more that LSL is going come in mostly with a points chart worse than RIV, but slightly better than PIT.

This makes a lot of sense. It’s a new MK resort so slight premium over Riviera in the Epcot resort area, but it’s not connected via monorail so it takes a slight drop from the newest PVB IT.

 

[JulieBeeRN]

We like staying at SSR. Parking is super convenient and we like to walk a lot so that doesn't bother us at all. The workout facility is one of the best on property. Easy access to Disney Springs.

 

[VGCgroupie]

You made me curious about VDH vs RIV points charts. Just never looked at VDH since I really have no plans to try and book there anytime soon. Looks like VDH is pretty comparable to RIV. Deluxe studios at RIV a little more, but they also sleep 5 vs. 4. 1 and 2 BRs - VDH looks to be mostly in the middle of RIV resort and preferred views for most periods. 3 BR GVs at RIV are a little bit more. Of course, none of that takes account of the ToT.

Just a did quick comparison of a 1 BR and 2 BR for Easter week and threw in PIT too (which may not be the best week to compare, just one I'd be most interested in):

1BR
RIV Resort: 426
RIV Preferred: 502
VDH: 394 + $1,166.54 (about 58 points if valued at $20/pt) = 452 points
PIT Resort: 496
PIT Preferred: 562
PIT TP: 641

2 BR
RIV Resort: 565
RIV Preferred: 646
VDH: 594 + $1,758.86 (about 88 points) = 682
PIT Resort: 670
PIT Preferred: 795
PIT TP: 938

So, maybe, if you stick with resort view at PIT, in some room categories sometimes, once you take account of the ToT, VDH is a few more points than PIT. I suppose if you wanted to get even more granular, we'd need to calculate the cost per point for dues since you're probably not booking any of the the resort view or VDH rooms without owning at these resorts. That probably brings the cost of PIT down just a bit (for now).

This all makes me think even more that LSL is going come in mostly with a points chart worse than RIV, but slightly better than PIT.

Amazing thank you! I would probably value the points at the cost of dues rather than at $20pp. The TOT can for sure hurt paying w/ discounted GC helps.

 

[VGCgroupie]

Having done the walk between (what was then) VWL and the Fort several times, I'm pretty sure most WDW vacationers won't do it, just as most people do not walk from BWV to Studios, even though it is very doable.

I am novice when it comes to WDW, but I assumed there would an easy way to boat between the 2 places.

 

[VGCgroupie]

It cracks me up how people on this forum act like their vacation is ruined because they're forced to stay at SSR.

Well it wouldn't ruin my vacation because I wouldn't be on vacation if SSR was my only option.

 

[VGCgroupie]

I haven't yet stayed at SSR, and I'm not sure when/if I will, but looking at trips at busy times of the year in 2 bedrooms those point charts start looking pretty nice...

I havent compared all times of year but BCV point chart is pretty attractive. BW resort potentially just as good.

 

[Brian Noble]

I am novice when it comes to WDW, but I assumed there would an easy way to boat between the 2 places.

There likely will be a boat in the afternoons. There is a route like that already connects WL, the Fort, and CR (and via the monorail the rest of the loop) so I suspect this is only incremental.