Attack of the Lakeshore Lodge

[Kailunkat]

There has never been a stand alone/detached single bedroom before correct? I’m not so sure they will be lower in price than a standard 2 bedroom. I could see DVC wanting to market them as honeymoon suites or something similar and marking them up big time. Of course I also expect that the 2 bedroom A frames will be bungalow level points - but maybe having a grand villa option will help to keep those point costs down.

 

[DL1WDW2]

I just want to know how many miles of hallway from one end of the resort to the other ….
I can remeber thinking I needed to leave a trail of breadcrumbs to find my way when the basic Grand Californian Hotel opened … and I still have not entered the wing at the Riviera that I always forget is there .

 

[GADisneyDad14]

This summary may be helpful on the room count discussion yesterday. There's a fair amount of outdated or inconsistent information on the Internet when it comes to Disney hotel and DVC room/key counts, even among the most reliable sources/lists. It's one of those things that tends to get copy/pasted from blog to blog, source to source, and some of the nuanced details - mainly around areas such as lockoffs, cabins/treehouses included/not included, hotel/DVC conversions updated or not, etc get captured differently - so over time you get a mix of data out there.

I track this pretty closely from various sources, plans, and personal knowledge, but even with that I'd put an 'estimate' asterisk on it given the nuances above. Note where applicable this counts total keys and includes cabins/treehouses/A-Frames, etc.



I also mentally tend to look at resort size via this alternative version of the above which lumps YC/BC together - if you want to think through the lens of shared resort infrastructure/amenities. FWIW!

 

[airjay75]

There has never been a stand alone/detached single bedroom before correct? I’m not so sure they will be lower in price than a standard 2 bedroom. I could see DVC wanting to market them as honeymoon suites or something similar and marking them up big time. Of course I also expect that the 2 bedroom A frames will be bungalow level points - but maybe having a grand villa option will help to keep those point costs down.

That would be similar to points needed for the CCV cabins - 2 BRs, but about the same points as the 3 BR GVs. So, won't be surprised at all if 1 BR cabins cost the same as normal 2 BR villas.

 

[Mikey15]

There has never been a stand alone/detached single bedroom before correct?

Well, CFW cabins technically fit that description, even though they’re their own animal. Those are priced more like a studio or AK Value 1B, but that certainly wouldn’t be the case here.

 

[MagicCat]

The cabins at Fort Wilderness have 63 declared into DVC and the rest of the 302 cabins are hotel. Do they plan to declare all of them as DVC or if not how many will be DVC?

 

[SugarSweetLee]

There are no pools in space

In space, no one can hear you splash.

 

[Brian Noble]

They'll have weird points total in between a standard 2 bedroom and a booking class like the 2 bedroom cabins at copper creek.

I think this is too low. I expect the stand-alone 1BRs to cost more than a regular 2BR in the main resort. Time will tell!

 

[juliebee]

This summary may be helpful on the room count discussion yesterday.

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This is great info! Thank you for sharing this! If they do combine CFW and LSL, that puts that total at 1337, which is just above Saratoga but below the Yacht/Beach Club. That helps me put this in perspective.

 

[VGCgroupie]

I think this is too low. I expect the stand-alone 1BRs to cost more than a regular 2BR in the main resort. Time will tell!

I agree

 

[BrianLo]

I think this is too low. I expect the stand-alone 1BRs to cost more than a regular 2BR in the main resort. Time will tell!

I’m not so sure they will be lower in price than a standard 2 bedroom..

They'll have weird points total in between a standard 2 bedroom and a booking class like the 2 bedroom cabins at copper creek..

I’m not sure why my post was misread. I agree. More than a standard two bedroom, less than a luxury 2 bedroom (bungalows, CCV Cabins and the PIT Penthouses).

Currently there’s quite a large gap in points there, so it’s a pretty unique option that I think given there are only four units supposedly will be competitive.

The other one I really think DVC globally needs to get into (but they haven’t) is reverse 2 bedroom lock offs. So that you can book a Studio King or a 1 bedroom with two queen beds.

 

[Brian Noble]

Huh. I don't know either, because now that I read it it is obvious that I misinterpreted you!

Mea culpa!

 

[Tatebeck]

Not sure what the point chart will be for it, but I would be interested in checking them out either way!

 

[Cfabar1]

Not sure what the point chart will be for it, but I would be interested in checking them out either way!

I was thinking about this the other day... I think it will depend on the square footage of the accommodations...

I would like to imagine it looks like the BLT points chart
But
I think it will look more like the Riviera points chart.

the far flung deluxe properties (cash) tend to be the hardest to fill, and tend to have some of the best prices... I'm curious to see how that interacts with the DVC points chart decisions... and if more of Wilderness Lodge gets moved into DVC and/or gets downgraded to a Moderate officially or unofficially...

 

[JackosinDIS]

The other one I really think DVC globally needs to get into (but they haven’t) is reverse 2 bedroom lock offs. So that you can book a Studio King or a 1 bedroom with two queen beds.

This would be great, especially a 1br with 2 queen beds. I don’t like it when someone has to sleep in the living room in our family of 3.

 

[juliebee]

. and if more of Wilderness Lodge gets moved into DVC and/or gets downgraded to a Moderate officially or unofficially...

Wilderness Lodge or Cabins at Fort Wilderness?

 

[Cfabar1]

Wilderness Lodge or Cabins at Fort Wilderness?

Wilderness Lodge... I could see it becoming a hybrid Moderate+ or Deluxe- or they convert more rooms to DVC... If I remember correctly, Lakeshore Lodge is occupying a site that was originally reserved for a Moderate resort...

 

[Girlstar30]

I think the points chart will be better than what people think